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CoodaShooda 26th Feb 2018 13:42

With the trend to move to external enquiries, royal commissions, consultancies, etc, etc, etc, you have to question why we need all these public servants.

They seem to exist these days simply to find ways to avoid taking responsibility for the work we pay them to do.

WingNut60 26th Feb 2018 14:15


Originally Posted by CoodaShooda (Post 10065656)
With the trend to move to external enquiries, royal commissions, consultancies, etc, etc, etc, you have to question why we need all these public servants.

They seem to exist these days simply to find ways to avoid taking responsibility for the work we pay them to do.

Outsource the services because that's "more efficient" then keep an entire government department to manage the outsourced services.

Because, if you get rid of the government oversight the outsourced service provider can, will and does run amok; because he can.

TWT 26th Feb 2018 14:57

And then there's this Border Farce :

Australian Border Force boss Roman Quaedvlieg earns $500k on leave, fate rests with A-G - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

His annual salary is approx. $620k. How would he be worth a third more than a deputy PM ? They've truly lost the plot...

chuboy 26th Feb 2018 23:12


Originally Posted by TWT (Post 10065717)
And then there's this Border Farce :

Australian Border Force boss Roman Quaedvlieg earns $500k on leave, fate rests with A-G - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

His annual salary is approx. $620k. How would he be worth a third more than a deputy PM ? They've truly lost the plot...

I'm sure the department is sitting on the report because it exonerates Mr Quaedvlieg of any and all wrongdoing...

WingNut60 26th Feb 2018 23:25


Originally Posted by chuboy (Post 10066144)
I'm sure the department is sitting on the report because it exonerates Mr Quaedvlieg of any and all wrongdoing...

While they wait for him to agree to resign (out of their hair) and sign a non-disclosure agreement?

jack11111 5th Mar 2018 00:11

Barnaby Joyce, please close your pie hole. Please.

SRFred 5th Mar 2018 01:18


Originally Posted by jack11111 (Post 10072920)
Barnaby Joyce, please close your pie hole. Please.


Don't he know how to pick his media advisor! :E

TWT 5th Mar 2018 01:46

Someone needs to confiscate his shovel. He's been told to stop digging but is ignoring advice.

zzuf 5th Mar 2018 02:58

qantas and freedom of speech

https://tinyurl.com/yc84hqh3

Ascend Charlie 5th Mar 2018 21:08

Alan Joyce and Barnaby Joyce are both making bigger fools of themselves this week. They might be related, but Barnaby says there is a chance they are not.

bnt 24th Aug 2018 12:03

I came here today wondering what you all make of the new Prime Minister, but nothing? According to the Daily Mail, he made Lara Bingle famous. I'd never heard of her, but now I know she was the swimsuit model in the "where the bloody hell are you?" ads for Australian Tourism.

WingNut60 24th Aug 2018 12:50


Originally Posted by bnt (Post 10232202)
I came here today wondering what you all make of the new Prime Minister, but nothing? According to the Daily Mail, he made Lara Bingle famous. I'd never heard of her, but now I know she was the swimsuit model in the "where the bloody hell are you?" ads for Australian Tourism.

Bloody revolution normally occurs when the antics of the "ruling cadre(s)" becomes so far disassociated from the aspirations of the mortals that they decide that it's time to throw the whole deal on their bony heads.
If ever there was a country ripe for a bloody revolution it is Australia.

bnt 24th Aug 2018 12:55


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 10232232)
If ever there was a country ripe for a bloody revolution it is Australia.

Before any revolution, you'd have to convince a sufficient number of revolutionaries to travel all the way out to Canberra. So, probably not, then!

Crownstay01 24th Aug 2018 15:03


Originally Posted by bnt (Post 10232202)
I came here today wondering what you all make of the new Prime Minister...

He's a bogan evangelical Christian from the Shire. Got elected as federal member for Cook after a very dodgy preselection process. I doubt he'll have the job for very long.

Captain Dart 24th Aug 2018 21:54

Morrison was instrumental in stopping the boat invasion by illegal-immigrant country-shoppers. However on one of my favourite redneck websites he is described as 'Turnbull with an abacus'.

I am not optimistic of the Libs continuing to be other than 'Labor Lite'.

KelvinD 24th Aug 2018 23:37

Have you Aussies thought about changing the name of your country to Italy? I heard on the radio today you are on PM number 30. Or was it 31?

Captain Dart 25th Aug 2018 00:12

Thirtieth since 1901. Part of the problem is compulsory voting, and a three-year Federal election cycle, causing the major parties to always focus on the next election, rather than proper government.

WingNut60 25th Aug 2018 00:33

Compulsory voting might have some effect on change of governments but not on change of PM. The recent decade or so of PM swapping, has all been down to internal party in-fighting.
Nothing to do with elections.

Three year election intervals are not ideal but from that point of view the real culprit is that they are not fixed term.
The pollies like to be able to call elections whenever it best suits their re-electability.
In effect, three year just means a maximum of three years.
In practice it can be and often is much less.
Proposals to move to a four year fixed term will never get past the pollies.
And I, and many others, will never vote for a change of the election interval unless it includes going to fixed term.

WingNut60 25th Aug 2018 01:54

Yes, I agree, So does holding your 3-year elections every 2 years.

But if you look back thirty or forty years, many (most??) of the prime ministerial changes have NOT occurred at election time.
What happens at election time is prime ministers losing and their party replacing them because of the loss.

I wasn;t talking about Turnbull-Abbott.
Nor specifically anyone or any party.
But remember Turnbull did take it to an election after replacing Abbott, ostensibly to secure popular approval, which he did.

You can take this all the way back to Bob Menzies in 1941, possibly further.
Or the appointment of Mal Fraser.or the deposing of John Gorton.
And then you get through to the Rudd-Gillard-Riudd shenanigans
Possibly a couple more along the way.

The only honorable transition amongst that lot was John Gorton's departure

And I say again, burger all to do with elections..

Ogre 25th Aug 2018 05:12


Originally Posted by bnt (Post 10232234)
Before any revolution, you'd have to convince a sufficient number of revolutionaries to travel all the way out to Canberra. So, probably not, then!

You'd never get the revolutionaries out of bed early enough to get the red-eye flight, so they'd have to get the evening flight the day before.


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