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CoodaShooda 14th Dec 2017 04:30

LeP

I marvel at your ability to twist context into other dimensions.

I have no argument with SSM.

My interest, as stated at the start, is the effect the changes will have on other groups, directly or otherwise.

Crownstay01 14th Dec 2017 05:16


Originally Posted by De_flieger (Post 9988261)
Crownstay01 No, the vocal minority was the spineless politicians on both sides of parliament, and a highly vocal subset of the Christian lobby that at best, represented a narrow, fearful and archaic branch of a diverse group that largely rejected their views.

I agree, I was being facetious. As I expected, the so-called "silent majority" turned out to be neither.

le Pingouin 14th Dec 2017 06:38

CS, degrees of harm are exactly how decisions about competing rights are decided. The rights of the couple to be married versus the rights of the civil celebrant. What harm is brought on the civil celebrant by marrying a same-sex couple?

Twist context? You're the one twisting and turning - you refuse to see that civil celebrants have always been affected by having to conform to the legal definition of marriage, regardless of their personal views.

CoodaShooda 14th Dec 2017 12:08

LeP
Happy to agree to disagree. 🤡

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 14th Dec 2017 12:33


Originally Posted by De_flieger (Post 9988261)
Crownstay01 No, the vocal minority was the spineless politicians on both sides of parliament, and a highly vocal subset of the Christian lobby that at best, represented a narrow, fearful and archaic branch of a diverse group that largely rejected their views.

They were not the vocal minority I was referring to.

le Pingouin 14th Dec 2017 19:49

Nonetheless, they were the vocal minority who insisted on having the survey, rather than having a straight Parliamentary vote. Presumably they were hoping for some sort of "silent majority" effect brought about by FUD.

You did rather leave yourself wide open there Traffic.

Ethel the Aardvark 9th Feb 2018 11:08

Is Dutton lining up to topple Turnbull and take on the leadership?
What a disaster if the rumours are true!

Hempy 9th Feb 2018 12:46

Interesting how the ALP haven’t lowered themselves to political point scoring over Barnabys philandering. One can only imagine the Conservative outrage it if it was an Labor pollie in the same position.

Ethel the Aardvark 9th Feb 2018 14:58

You would of thought that someone would ask the question if the poor kid will be an Aussie or a Kiwi.
The new Lib Senator Molan looks a lovely piece of work and the libs over in WA whilst conferencing on Rottnest have been throwing each other to the floor in a pythonesque manner.
Is this the future of right wing politics in Oz. tut tut I say.

WingNut60 9th Feb 2018 15:12


Originally Posted by Ethel the Aardvark (Post 10047061)
Is Dutton lining up to topple Turnbull and take on the leadership?
What a disaster if the rumours are true!

You'd have to suspect that making him Minister for Everything was intended to tie him up and out of the way.
The Liberals have recent experience of what it's like to have an unpopular PM up front.
So it'll depend on whether the flinty-eyed right are prepared to keep tolerating Malcolm or whether they just can't exist without the bloodshed and toe-cutting.

30/30 Green Light 9th Feb 2018 21:18


Originally Posted by Hempy (Post 10047187)
Interesting how the ALP havenít lowered themselves to political point scoring over Barnabys philandering. One can only imagine the Conservative outrage it if it was an Labor pollie in the same position.

Glass houses, stones. No #metoo# on the horizon here.:}

jack11111 16th Feb 2018 02:10

Power struggle Down Under
 
According to the ABC (Australia):
"The crisis inside the Federal Government has worsened, with Barnaby Joyce lashing out at Malcolm Turnbull."

How long before Barnaby is back to the back bench? It's starting to look like politics Chicago style.
Will Malcolm travel to see Trump before this local problem is solved?

Stay tuned.

galaxy flyer 16th Feb 2018 02:30

Not my country, not my problem. More folks should take that stand, too.

GF

Bankstown Boy 16th Feb 2018 02:34

Yes ... maybe ... except for the inconvenient fact that Barnaby is leader of a different party to Malcolm.

I suspect that this theatre (it's hard to describe it as anything else as no laws have apparently been broken) is to cover up for the ongoing saga that likely 3-4 member of each main party in both houses are probably holding their seats in direct contravention with the express findings of the High Court interpreting the Constitution.

Poor fella, my country.

Hydromet 16th Feb 2018 07:31

BB, I suspect you may be right. If it's not that that they're covering up it will be something else.

Captain Dart 16th Feb 2018 07:41


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 10054543)
Not my country, not my problem. More folks should take that stand, too.

GF

Of course it’s not your problem, galaxy. About as much as, as an Aussie, US politics is not my problem. I’m surprised that you even took the trouble to post.

ZFT 16th Feb 2018 07:50


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 10054543)
Not my country, not my problem. More folks should take that stand, too.

GF

Interesting - do you honestly believe that? (I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you although taxpayer funded shags does seem a bit too much)

Fliegenmong 16th Feb 2018 12:06

Not my country, not my problem. More folks should take that stand, too.

Oh Ha ha ha!! .....good one GF....You'll surely chime in on another country's business when it suits you!!....methinks you're not really liking the idea that the rest of the world is seriously confused as to why so many school shootings occur.....not liking the scrutiny?

galaxy flyer 16th Feb 2018 17:22

Fliegenmong,

I said “more folks should take that stand”; didn’t I? Australia seems quite capable of sorting out their politics without my input. Wish you’d act the same.

GF

Octane 17th Feb 2018 01:06

I'm a little curious how it's possible/ why would you nominate a Senator to be acting PM?


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