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JB Mods 6th Apr 2010 07:34

UK politics - Hamsterwheel

For those who can't help themselves there are the Hamster Wheel threads. If you absolutely need to talk politics, do it there. Do not start new political threads, they will be closed or merged. If you choose to participate in a Hamster Wheel or a religious thread, show some restraint and a goodly dose of maturity.


Bruce Wayne 6th Apr 2010 07:49

show some restraint and a goodly dose of maturity.
Oh come on ! :}

Sprogget 6th Apr 2010 08:00

An old friend of mine is standing this time around in Newcastle. I wish him the best of luck, but it doesn't matter as he's backing the wrong horse in that town. Good luck Ron!

ORAC 6th Apr 2010 08:55

New laws for housholders :}:ok:

If you are found to be in possession of a garden gate that doesn't open easily, you will be heavily fined.

If your letterbox is not immediately apparent to anyone approaching the house you will be evicted and your house handed over to a family who will undertake to fit a visible letterbox.

If your letterbox is at ankle level, or is in any way difficult to open or is fitted with those brushes (for some reason called a Joan Collins by some posties) that make putting a leaflet through virtually impossible so that it ends up looking like a screwed up piece of paper... you will be violently flogged in public.

If you possess a dog which barks violently the moment anyone touches a front door you will lose your home, be flogged in public, and serve a six-month prison sentence.

If you possess a dog which waits silently behind your front door until a finger appears in view through the letterbox, you will have your house possessed, you will be violently flogged on live television, you will serve a long prison sentence, and then you will be executed by firing squad.

Did I mention the fact that I have delivered a lot of leaflets over the last couple of days?

tony draper 6th Apr 2010 09:18

Opened a Pizza shop recently have you Mr ORAC? :rolleyes:

ORAC 6th Apr 2010 09:18

Election Exclusive: Inside No. 10 as Gordon Brown Prepares Historic Trip to Palace (*) :}:}:D

Krystal n chips 6th Apr 2010 09:52

" Election Exclusive: Inside No. 10 as Gordon Brown Prepares Historic Trip to Palace "

There is possibly a large number of the UK population who would suggest a historic trip to the Tower of London would be more apt........followed by Clegg and Cameron.....:E

Sprogget 6th Apr 2010 09:59

This does of course mean that the civil service is now running the country. Out of the frying pan...:uhoh:

sitigeltfel 6th Apr 2010 10:45

Hamsterwheel? UK politics deserves a different rodent. Why not Rat Run?

Done :ok:
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MagnusP 6th Apr 2010 10:50

So Brenda is to dissolve parliament.

All donations of sulphuric acid gratefully received.

CathayBrat 6th Apr 2010 12:12

Oh goody, now its going to be on tv 24/7, what a joy that would be. Sooooooo glad i left the bloody place.
Spent about 30 mins on the slap-o-meter the other day, time well spent and enjoyable.
May the best man win. :hmm:

frostbite 6th Apr 2010 12:53

Looks like it will indeed be on TV 24/7 if this morning is anything to go by.

BBC1 cancelled all programmes to bring us 3 boring hours of Broon visiting Brenda.

Wonder if anyone actually watched it? Bet it's cost us a lot.

Krystal n chips 6th Apr 2010 13:44

" Looks like it will indeed be on TV 24/7 if this morning is anything to go by.

BBC1 cancelled all programmes to bring us 3 boring hours of Broon visiting Brenda "

That's merely a precursor to the next event in the year....the World :mad: Cup.

Switch "OFF"...go.

SOPS 6th Apr 2010 13:49

3 hours....3 hours!!!!?????!!!!!! What the hell did they broadcast for 3 hours?

Blacksheep 6th Apr 2010 13:51

I've already been out shoving leaflets and canvassing for the past two weeks. My bit of Welwyn-Hatfield is a Labour enclave, but one has to play one's part. Nobody has set a Pit Bull on me yet, so thats a positive sign. I'm banished to Welham Green this evening; party HQ seems to think its a safer place for a grey haired old geezer.

Sprogget 6th Apr 2010 14:00

I can still remember Chrstopher Murphy. Then again, no wonder it's a Labour enclave, Murphy just disappeared if memory serves.

Storminnorm 6th Apr 2010 14:10

I'm very disappointed in you Blacksheep.
Spending hours pushing leaflets through letterboxes indeed.
Any one shoving leaflets through letterboxes in support of any
political party should be shot for wasting time and paper.
I keep the waste paper bin in close proximity to the letterbox,
and a small sign to redirect ANY political crap to be posted
DIRECTLY into it.
Saves me having to do it.

Ancient Observer 6th Apr 2010 14:17

I've been a voter in the UK rather longer than I care to remember. However, I've never, ever, been canvassed.
What's it like being canvassed? One wonders.

But back to the issue.........Do you simply say Foxtrot Oscar, or do you wait for the opposition to turn up, and then engage them in intelligent conversation for hours so that they can't influence anyone else?

A bloke that I was at school with is an MP. Has been for years, and has flirted with Junior Ministerial positions. I'm not sure who he was having those positions with.

Shame, really, as he was a bright lad, and quite a good wing forward. Quicker than me, but not quite as good in the rough and tumble.

Blacksheep 6th Apr 2010 14:18

Quite, Norm.

But did Gormless Gordon not vapourise your pension?
..and do you have a son-in-law who has been made redundant, so you have to help out your daughter with "food subsidy"?
...and oblige you to spend 25% of your paltry income supporting your children and parents?
...and steal the house from your parents anyway?
...and put you on short time, with the threat of redundancy still hanging over your own head?

I'm one of the working men and women that he has steadfastly both ignored and pillaged for 13 years and he's finally made me angry enough to participate, so he bl**dy well has. :=

However, I've never, ever, been canvassed
Canvassing is simply a party-political opinion poll.

We're not out looking to convert people on their doorsteps. Basically we'll chat you up and ask your opinions and answer any questions, should you be moved to ask them.

Then there's the polling day commando hit squad... :suspect:

anotherthing 6th Apr 2010 14:22


Hear Hear.

Why do we need leaflets nowadays when there are so many other ways of communicating to the masses?

It's ironic that we are being taxed to the hilt to be more 'environmentally friendly', yet the politicos are happy for swathes of trees to be pulped so they can print their propoganda, printed and distributed wasting lots of other resources in the process.

The fact the Green party do it as well is even more ironic.

I'm not some puritanical tree hugger, but the hypocrisy sticks in my craw.

I honestly thought we were in the electronic age.

Ancient Observer 6th Apr 2010 14:23

"Great New Ideas"
The current Government appears to want to have some "Great New Ideas" about how to manage the country.

Do they think that we are all completely stupid? They've had 13 bl**dy years to implement their great new ideas, and all we've had as a result is what Blacksheep listed, plus all towns around LHR being full-up with asylum seekers.

I wish Broon and Mandy lived in either Slough or Hounslow. They'd do something about it then!!

yakker 6th Apr 2010 14:31

I'm one of the working men and women that he has steadfastly both ignored and pillaged for 13 years
I agree, and I have told my family if Gormless gets back in we are selling up and leaving the country.

Blacksheep 6th Apr 2010 14:35

when there are so many other ways of communicating to the masses?
The masses are down the pub, at the match, watching soaps or playing video games. Its the uncommitted "don't knows" and "don't cares", sitting at home on polling day who allowed The Bliar and Gordon to bring us to ruin. Its the thoughtful we need to reach. The people who read, think about what they've read and ask questions who are the target audience. Those who chuck the printed word into the bin without reading it don't care and don't count.

Ancient Observer 6th Apr 2010 14:39

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anotherthing 6th Apr 2010 14:40


Its the thoughtful we need to reach
And these are the people who are likely to read newspapers, watch the news, watch debates, read online. These people do not need yet more paper shoved through their door. Your own statement as much as says this.


uncommitted "don't knows" and "don't cares",
Are always going to be that way, yet campaigners still stick leaflets through every single door in Britain, thus wasting huge resources on people who they (yourself included) say won't take a bit of notice anyways.

Just like those of our political masters, your arguments don't add up!!! :)

Storminnorm 6th Apr 2010 14:43

That lovely Gordon didn't vaporise MY pension at all.
The Memsahib beat him to it.
And in response to your other questions,
And finally,
Thank you for asking.

Blacksheep 6th Apr 2010 14:48

These people do not need yet more paper shoved through their door.
Aye, doorstep conversions and The War Cry. Like the Jehovas Witnesses, Latter Day Saints and Salvation Army, we can only march on, always in hope and often, against all the odds, claiming a few converts. One can but live in hope, eh?

But there's much more to it than leaflets. I've had some interesting chats with people while out dropping leaflets. Thinking people mostly. The BIG question I always put to them is "Do you really want another five years of Gordon Brown?" If not, what are you going to do about it?

Norm, all those no's. You've been a very, very lucky chap. Maybe you should vote Labour?

Ancient Observer 6th Apr 2010 14:52

Nice cartoon in the Times (UK) to-day, pointing out that GB has been elected as many times as the Queen.

anotherthing 6th Apr 2010 14:52


The Jehovah's Witnesses, Latter Day Saints, Sally Army etc don't make me pay extra tax on fuel, or increased costs on road fund licence, or passenger tax on airline travel or many other taxes that are claimed to be used towards making me more green.

Less paper through my door is what I want, politicians and their supporters should lead by example. that is what politicians are supposed to do after all :ok:

Door to door campaigning is one thing and I agree you could have some good conversations that get people thinking, though to be honest it is your opinion against theirs as politicians 'facts' are very well hidden behind headline agendas. However there is no need to shove paperwork through every door :)

Blacksheep 6th Apr 2010 14:54

Don't forget to put the leaflets in the recycle bin. After you've read them of course... ;)

Storminnorm 6th Apr 2010 14:57

It's not just do we want another 5 years of Gordon Brown that
I'm worried about.
It's could we manage to cope with 5 years of the Dave & George show?
I know what I'd like to see in power, and it isn't those two for certain.

Blacksheep 6th Apr 2010 15:02

Who would that be then? Our tony draper would be a shoo-in, even with his occasional liberal tendencies.

skua 6th Apr 2010 15:05

NuLab dictatorship plumbs new depths
YouTube - Wonderful sight

spose it is no worse than putting McGuinness in charge of education in Ulster...

tony draper 6th Apr 2010 15:16

Liberalism? what yer mean giving em a 2mg valium before the head shot?,just quietens em down that do,stops em flopping about and saves ammunitition.

sea oxen 6th Apr 2010 15:25


we must read the same blogs. Labour keeps trying to smother this disgrace, but someone presists in reloading it. :)

The teacher - sorry, commissar in charge of this class - should be dismissed and have his assets seized. Anyone with a modicum of integrity would not attempt to brainwash children like that.


frostbite 6th Apr 2010 15:38

One good thing about having registered for a postal vote is that when they turn up on the doorstep, you can say "I've already voted", well in advance of the day.

They don't want to talk to you after that.

sisemen 6th Apr 2010 15:39

Don't knock the good old British tradition of shoving a leaflet through your letterbox.

You could end up like Oz and have the national leaders phoning you fer chrissake! Or sending you a personal email. All thanks to the trickery of IT. :yuk:

(and yer can't opt out of it 'cos political parties are absolved from the telesales rule)

Storminnorm 6th Apr 2010 15:50

Perish the thought Siseman. That's all we need!!!

Do they do Heavy Breathing calls as well??

Sprogget 6th Apr 2010 16:00

The masses are down the pub, at the match, watching soaps or playing video games. Its the uncommitted "don't knows" and "don't cares", sitting at home on polling day who allowed The Bliar and Gordon to bring us to ruin.
Hear hear, it was absolutely nothing to do with the fanastically dynamic & progressive John Major administration, Michael Mellor's toe job, Michael Mates & Asil Nadir, Back to basics, followed almost immediately by Tim Yeo's affair, Neil Hamilton's cash for questions & Johnathan Aitken's trusty shield of justice.

Come off it BS, I'm no follower of Brown & Nu Labour, but if you're going to bandy about a high moral tone, you really ought to do something about your short term memory loss & these are just the ones I remember!!

OFSO 6th Apr 2010 16:07

If you don't want to be bored to death with the Election on TV, tune into Sky. La Burley is going to tell us all she knows, so the program should be over in two or three minutes......

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