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Bruce Wayne 28th Oct 2010 17:31

I imagine the London landlords will be pretty ticked off as well,however I think the cap will be 400 pounds whether that is a week or month I'm not sure
not really. landlords only charge what the market will dictate.

if the going rate for x type property in area y is 400p/w, then shoving it on the market at 5 or 6 hundred will pretty much see it left empty or the price dropped to fill it.

renting to local housing authority is tough call. generally, the tenants dont give a stuff about the property and will likely trash it. or leave a string of debts and unpaid utilities. they wont lose their deposit or be hauled thought the courts for recovery.

Bruce Wayne 28th Oct 2010 17:33

Apparently, housing benefit is capped already - for London the figure is 21,000 . .
which is about 400 p/w

Effluent Man 28th Oct 2010 19:41

I would want someone to pay ME 21,000 a year to live in London.

Bruce Wayne 28th Oct 2010 19:50


that's called london weighting...

born in london and grew up there in my early years.. its not the same london it was.. its a dump now.

oh and i ain't that old.. was born after Armstrong walked on the moon.

tony draper 28th Oct 2010 19:55

As a country we obviously cannot afford London, I think it should be scrapped.

G-CPTN 1st Nov 2010 00:59

London Fire Brigade.
Currently they work 9 hour days and 15 hour nights.

The proposal is 12 hour days and 12 hour nights, an arrangement that the firefighters are resisting.

What hours do other region firefighters work?

BBC News - London firefighters' strike to go ahead on Monday

Parapunter 1st Nov 2010 01:08

The firemen got found out last time they struck. Time they sucked it up like everyone else.

5th Nov strike? Not on is that.

G-CPTN 1st Nov 2010 10:38

It seems that the usual shift pattern is two consecutive days (or nights) followed by four days off then two days on the opposite shift then four days off.

So, every eight days they work four shifts with four days off between, then four days off two days shift then two days off followed by two days off (four in a row).

In a 32 day 'month' they work 16 shifts and have sixteen days off (four groups of four with two shifts between each 'rest period').

How many workers only work half the days in a month?
(Pilots, I suppose . . . )

Parapunter 2nd Nov 2010 19:53

Unbelieveable that in this musty old gentlemen's establishment, on a day that we have said we'll give prisoners the vote & France our nuclear secrets, no one sees fit to pass comment.

Presumably, lining up with the frogs means we'll do the attacking & they'll do the retreating.:rolleyes:

tony draper 2nd Nov 2010 19:59

Buggah! this will give the Germans a excuse to rearm now.
Here we go again.

stuckgear 2nd Nov 2010 21:54

Buggah! this will give the Germans a excuse to rearm now.
Here we go again
invading poland should be interesting.. they're all over here !:}

S78 3rd Nov 2010 09:06

I think this Anglo-French agreement has potential.

According to the Beeb we'll be testing nukes in eastern France, get it wrong and we could take out part of Germany as well:E

tony draper 3rd Nov 2010 09:56

Good quote from a Military chap on Newsnight last night.
"We have given up our place at the front of the race and have dropped back to trot along with the fat specky lads at the back"

teeteringhead 3rd Nov 2010 11:14

Apparently, housing benefit is capped already - for London the figure is 21,000 . . .
... and by way of comparison, the lowest grade of MOD Civil Servant (Admin Assistant - think typists and filing clerks) has a maximum wage (after 9 years) of 18 815, for a 42 hour week.

And that includes London Weighting (outside the M25 'twould be 17 584) .....:uhoh:

SOPS 3rd Nov 2010 12:29

If the above figures are correct ( and I assume they are) there is something very, very wrong:ugh:

G-CPTN 5th Nov 2010 19:26

BBC News - Gordon Brown urges aircraft carrier work at Rosyth

When Mr Brown pressed him for an assurance that the refit would take place in the UK, Mr Luff said: "I think it is extremely likely that they will, but I cannot rule out the possibility that they will not."

tony draper 5th Nov 2010 19:33

Just been a Item on the local news, the Tea Company Twinnings have been given a ten million pound grant from the EU to help move their factory and the jobs to Poland,some of that ten million from British tax payers.
That's the same company who expected their UK employees to train the Poles they brought over to do their jobs.
The EU madness moves on by leaps and bounds.

S78 5th Nov 2010 19:38

It amazes me that Brown can remember where the House of Commons is, he's hardly been there since the election.

Anyway, today's main political story:

Labour minister barred from Commons for three years - Telegraph

Aside from the whole 'first conviction of its kind in 99 years, former immigration minister scaremongering over Muslim immigration (if it's THAT bad why didn't you do something before the election?)'. Why did Milliband pick Woolas for the shadow cabinet with this ongoing case? He must have known the details, seen the election pamphlets. Lapse of judgement or could it be that Milliband didn't see anything wrong with lying and scaremongering to the electorate?

Gertrude the Wombat 6th Nov 2010 00:16

could it be that Milliband didn't see anything wrong with lying and scaremongering
Well, election leaflets are full of lies and scaremongering, it's how the game is played.

But competent agents will advise their party machine to make sure that no such lies are actually false statements of fact about the opposing candidates, precisely because of this law.

Maybe someone was daft enough to think "oh well, this law hasn't been used for 100 years, I don't need to worry about it". Or worse, someone employed an agent who couldn't be arsed to learn the applicable law. Which is the whole point of having an agent in the first place - the idea is that for most breaches of election law the agent can go to prison if necessary whilst the candidate acts all innocent and keeps his seat.

G-CPTN 7th Nov 2010 00:49

BBC News - Long-term jobless 'could face compulsory manual labour'

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