The odious Mr Ecclestone for Putin
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia
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A man's not old when his hair turns grey
A man's not old when his teeth decay
But it's time that he goes to his last long sleep
When his mind makes appointments that his body can't keep
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With that said, he did clearly say in the interview that Vlad made a mistake - presumably referring to his Ukranian adventure - but spectacularly missed the opportunity to condemn his pals actions.
So really its just Bernie being Bernie, although grossly misjudged given the context of many thousands of deaths this time, not the diversion of a few $m or expediting a business transaction. As others have mentioned - these types live in a parallel reality so very detached from that of the rest of us, that it clearly distorts their world views vis-à-vis our own.
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I've worked directly with people far, far ahead or him in terms of wealth. They taught me a lot, about how low mankind will stoop. Animals don't behave like that.
Join Date: Jan 2008
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However the greed, hunger or what ever you call it must have been there at the outset. In the Gene's probably.
I've worked directly with people far, far ahead or him in terms of wealth. They taught me a lot, about how low mankind will stoop. Animals don't behave like that.
I've worked directly with people far, far ahead or him in terms of wealth. They taught me a lot, about how low mankind will stoop. Animals don't behave like that.
As to the genetic factor being why such individuals are as they are, I think that could well be true and when coupled with perhaps a tough start in life, an inner fire keeps burning fiercely to push and push and push and to do things that most are not prepared to do for both moral or fairness reasons. Perhaps such individuals are mentally-ill, but in a way that makes them rich beyond compare and with wealth much is forgiven or at least tolerated.
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This is how wealth destroys people and their thinking. However the greed, hunger or what ever you call it must have been there at the outset. Animals don't behave like that.
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Good old Bernie has always expressed his admiration for men that "can get things done" ... Vlad, but also the (controversial) leadership of Abu Dhabi and Bahrain in the context of building new F1 tracks with the minimum of "fuss". He obviously feels a special kinship with these men, and intentionally ignores that his "getting things done" usually means outside a democratic process and greatly benefiting a few - usually him and his cronies. His remarkable control of F1 over a couple of decades is punctuated by events that show that he was never one to let bureaucracy and process get in the way of business; so one can understand (if not condone) his perspective.
With that said, he did clearly say in the interview that Vlad made a mistake - presumably referring to his Ukranian adventure - but spectacularly missed the opportunity to condemn his pals actions.
So really its just Bernie being Bernie, although grossly misjudged given the context of many thousands of deaths this time, not the diversion of a few $m or expediting a business transaction. As others have mentioned - these types live in a parallel reality so very detached from that of the rest of us, that it clearly distorts their world views vis-à-vis our own.
With that said, he did clearly say in the interview that Vlad made a mistake - presumably referring to his Ukranian adventure - but spectacularly missed the opportunity to condemn his pals actions.
So really its just Bernie being Bernie, although grossly misjudged given the context of many thousands of deaths this time, not the diversion of a few $m or expediting a business transaction. As others have mentioned - these types live in a parallel reality so very detached from that of the rest of us, that it clearly distorts their world views vis-à-vis our own.
The current COO of the Orange lo-co outfit boasts on his LinkedIn profile of ‘simply getting things done, with the minimum of fuss’, and he is the singularly most useless individual I have come across in 30 years in this industry, and the list of contenders is a LONG one!
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Like it, or loathe it, he's entitled to his opinion and I'm sure on a personal level he had a very positive experience with VP, as well as financially rewarding from their shared passion for Sochi having an F1 GP there.
I'm not sure why he was interviewed at all (does anyone have the down-low ?) let alone about his thoughts on VP, but there you go. I haven't watched the interview, but the presenters must have been apoplectic with outrage with BE triggering them with each sentence!
I'm not sure why he was interviewed at all (does anyone have the down-low ?) let alone about his thoughts on VP, but there you go. I haven't watched the interview, but the presenters must have been apoplectic with outrage with BE triggering them with each sentence!
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Disdain for his point-of-view is an important part of defining the difference between the absurdly spoilt and unaccountable, and normal people.
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And perhaps it is possible to use devices like false equivalence to make simple subjects apparently lofty and complex. Could it be that the man is a vain and greedy little toerag without a moral compass?
Disdain for his point-of-view is an important part of defining the difference between the absurdly spoilt and unaccountable, and normal people.
Disdain for his point-of-view is an important part of defining the difference between the absurdly spoilt and unaccountable, and normal people.
Thought police antagonist
Join Date: Jul 2003
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" Dear Vlad,
I'm sure you noticed when I said nice things about you recently. Since then, there seems to have been a bit of a misunderstanding, theirs I must add, not mine, about taxes and financial matters.
You know how intrusive some of these petty minded little Gov't people can be, trying to make names for themselves at the expense of those of us who have diligently and honestly accrued a small pot to see us through our twilight years.
Consequently, I've got a small favour to ask please. Your glorious country does have lots of spare space, so, I was wondering if you could say, help me relocate for a while albeit this may be quite a long while, although at 91, it could also be a very short term arrangement.
Looking forward to your positive reply and meeting you soon.
Bernie "
Bernie Ecclestone to be charged over alleged fraud - BBC Sport
I'm sure you noticed when I said nice things about you recently. Since then, there seems to have been a bit of a misunderstanding, theirs I must add, not mine, about taxes and financial matters.
You know how intrusive some of these petty minded little Gov't people can be, trying to make names for themselves at the expense of those of us who have diligently and honestly accrued a small pot to see us through our twilight years.
Consequently, I've got a small favour to ask please. Your glorious country does have lots of spare space, so, I was wondering if you could say, help me relocate for a while albeit this may be quite a long while, although at 91, it could also be a very short term arrangement.
Looking forward to your positive reply and meeting you soon.
Bernie "
Bernie Ecclestone to be charged over alleged fraud - BBC Sport
Join Date: Nov 2011
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“Dear Bern,
Perfect timing.
This week we are giving away masses of Russian passports absolutely free.
We’ll fix you up in a swish area with a security detail, behind corrugated iron fencing.
Your pal,
‘V the lad’ Vlad
PS Can you bring plenty of ready cash in your suitcases. No rubles though, haha…”
Perfect timing.
This week we are giving away masses of Russian passports absolutely free.
We’ll fix you up in a swish area with a security detail, behind corrugated iron fencing.
Your pal,
‘V the lad’ Vlad
PS Can you bring plenty of ready cash in your suitcases. No rubles though, haha…”
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Ecclestone is being charged by the Crown Prosecution Service with fraudulent misrepresentation following an HMRC investigatiom into £400 million offshore assets according to Sky News today.