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Old 11th Jun 2022, 12:43
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Originally Posted by Saintsman View Post
The cables are long enough to run along the trim at the top of the windscreen and down the side of the door seal. Hardly any cable visible at all.
But where does the cable plug in, if the power socket is in the middle of the dashboard?
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 13:11
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Originally Posted by wowzz View Post
But where does the cable plug in, if the power socket is in the middle of the dashboard?
This is one of the aspects (of a dashcam) which worries me. Which car manufacturer is going to be the first to include a power socket/outlet somewhere in the headlining above the rear-view mirror? There's already power in that area (interior lights) so there is cabling already there.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 13:25
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Originally Posted by wowzz View Post
But where does the cable plug in, if the power socket is in the middle of the dashboard?
​​​​​​They are usually supplied with a 12V plug for the cigarette lighter socket. Problem is many people now use that to charge their mobile phone. You can buy a 'hard wire' kit that allows you to permanently connect the camera to the car electrical system.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 13:28
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There are already some cars with power sockets in the glove box, but the best option is to wire it into the fuse box. Techmoan.com is (was) another good site - although he hasn't updated it recently there is some good info about the basic principles.

In its simplest form, you want something powered from an ignition-switched supply, so it turns on and off automatically with the ignition. If you want parking mode, it will need a permanent live feed but you then run the risk of flattening the battery unless you have a system to switch it off at a pre-determined battery voltage.

They should all record in a loop mode, so recording small clips (eg 3 minute clips) until the card is full whereupon the earliest files are overwritten. There is usually a g-sensor, which locks that particular file if an impact occurs - and often a button which allows you to do the same thing, so that the individual file gets locked and cannot be overwritten. In practice, a decent sized memory card will hold 5 hours or so of driving.

There are plenty of unobtrusive cameras which are barely visible and some which actually replace bits of the existing trim such as https://fitcamx.com/collections/integrated-dash-cams

Probably worth going for one that has wifi built in so that you can access the clips at the scene rather than giving up the card, or having to wait until you can read it in a computer.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 13:42
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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown View Post
​​​​​​They are usually supplied with a 12V plug for the cigarette lighter socket. Problem is many people now use that to charge their mobile phone. You can buy a 'hard wire' kit that allows you to permanently connect the camera to the car electrical system.
I think you are confusing me with someone who has some electrical knowledge !
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 14:23
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Originally Posted by wowzz View Post
As far as I can see, dashcams either have to be either hardwired into a power source, or plugged into a power socket, which involves a wire dangling down the windscreen.
Are there any on the market with an internal, rechargeable battery ?
yes and no, there are external batteries that charge alongside the car battery, it will draw off this first then use the car one.

It depends on your budget, i went for this system, read the page for the features

Thinkware Q800 Pro Dash Cam | RAC Shop

I added the rear cam option and the battery and got them to fit it.

Thinkware | Thinkware Dash Cam | RAC Shop

Fitting info
Dash cam fitting | RAC Shop

Battery info, I added it because I do lots of short trips and it could sit for days not being used,

iVolt_battery | THINKWARE

But there are other prices and makes, this was the RAC shop and the chap came and installed it in the carpark while I
was at work.

To fit one without the cable hanging down the screen into the cigarette socket, get an internal kit, basically you want one of these

KOLACEN Automotive Car Truck 2 Pieces 16 Gauge Add-a-circuit Fuse TAP Adapter for Low-profile Mini Blade Type Fuse + 8 Pieces Low Profile Mini Fuse 5Apm 7.5Apm 10Apm 15Apm : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive KOLACEN Automotive Car Truck 2 Pieces 16 Gauge Add-a-circuit Fuse TAP Adapter for Low-profile Mini Blade Type Fuse + 8 Pieces Low Profile Mini Fuse 5Apm 7.5Apm 10Apm 15Apm : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive

It plugs into a permanent live fuse holder, something like the cigarette lighter, one fuse is for the lighter, the other for the lead, you then need to connect a plain power lead from the camera to it, and tuck it out of sight up and around the windscreen trim.

you can buy complete kits, see

Amazon.co.uk : dash cam wiring kit Amazon.co.uk : dash cam wiring kit
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 14:30
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Simple guide to fitting

Dash Cam Installation Instructions | How To Hardwire Guide (thedashcamstore.com)

You don't really need the tester shown, with the ignition off see what works, ciggy lighter, internal lights etc, then locate the fuse, often on back of fuser panel cover or in the car manual, these are the ones that will power it when the ignition is off. Plenty of guides on youtube

Our 10 Best Dash cam front and rear in The UK - June 2022 | BestProductsReviews.co.uk
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 14:37
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My dashcam has several metres of cable. As others have said, there is enough to run inside the headlining, underneath various bits of trim and up next to the centre console where it plugs into the "cigarette lighter" socket.
The cable is only visible just where it plugs into the camera (behind the rear-view mirror) and where it plugs into the socket the other end.

No windscreen danglage at all.
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I had a Jag clip my front wing on the main road outside a Coop as he was parking, the totally honest guy gave the woman at the till his details for me and waited in a cafe across the road to tell me, but regardless, my dash cams caught it on tape including the registration and the driver when he got out, so was no hassle with insurance etc.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 15:14
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Originally Posted by wowzz View Post
As far as I can see, dashcams either have to be either hardwired into a power source, or plugged into a power socket, which involves a wire dangling down the windscreen.
Are there any on the market with an internal, rechargeable battery ?
My Rexing V1 has an internal battery but it lasts a few minutes at best. I'm not entirely sure what the point is, maybe for a some quick replay away from the vehicle or something (it also has a small viewing screen at the back).

Fortunately, it was fairly easy for me to wire the cam into my rear-view mirror using a USB cord from invisicord.com. It's a good solution if you have a mirror with a power jack for self-dimming, compass etc. There seem to be quite a few DIY installs documented about the web.

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Old 11th Jun 2022, 15:16
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I think I'll go to Halford's. £50 to hardwire a dashcam purchased from them.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 15:36
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Originally Posted by Carbon Bootprint View Post
My Rexing V1 has an internal battery but it lasts a few minutes at best. I'm not entirely sure what the point is
Probably not a battery, but instead a capacitor

I think most of them use a capacitor actually


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There is a subway train somewhere that uses (lots of) capacitors to make the journey between stations. Apparently it recharges at each station enough to get to the next one

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Old 11th Jun 2022, 15:52
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Originally Posted by wowzz View Post
But where does the cable plug in, if the power socket is in the middle of the dashboard?
They invariably run on 5Vdc through a standard USB connection. I bought 12v to 5v dropper (a few pounds on Amazon) wired it into the fuse box and tucked the cable under the headlining. Itís almost invisible and leaves the cigarette lighter socket available.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 16:03
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Rove

I have been using Rove Dash Cams for years. https://www.rovedashcam.com/ They work very well. Picture quality is excellent day and night.

I use one in front an a second in the rear window. I believe they have a combo unit now.

Excellent customer service and "how to " videos. Very easy DIY installation.

Good luck

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Old 11th Jun 2022, 16:47
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Originally Posted by Sue VÍtements View Post
Probably not a battery, but instead a capacitor

I think most of them use a capacitor actually
I doubt it.

As capacitors discharge, they steadily decrease voltage, so they would be a very poor design for this application, unlikely to run a camera for very long, as the voltage dropped. More likely, it is the same as in our MiVue cameras, small Lithium batteries, as these have a very flat discharge voltage curve, from aprox 4.1V down to 3.6V over their useful cell capacity.. Unfortunately, after 5 years of being abused by the (lack of) charging control circuit, they are kept fully charged at 100%, which is very bad for Lithium chemistry batteries, and this massively reduces their capacity.

I replaced all 4x of our batteries after about 5ears, and that was about 5 years ago. Already I can see that at least 2x of them need replacing again, which should see them good for the next 5 years.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 16:57
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Originally Posted by wowzz View Post
I think I'll go to Halford's. £50 to hardwire a dashcam purchased from them.
Nooo.. I’m not a great fan of Halfords fitting anything TBH, heard horror stories, and when I was at one of their garages a chap turned up having been sent by the store because they couldn’t fit a light bulb.

read on,

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...=153&t=1642777

https://dashboardcamreviews.co.uk/halfords-fitting/


remember they tend to just train up a shop assistant I believe

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Old 11th Jun 2022, 17:04
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Originally Posted by pilotmike View Post
I doubt it.
I doubt your doubt !

Neither the battery nor the capacitor is really used to power the unit - the 12v (or 5v USB) power supply does that. The battery or capacitor is just there to do a controlled shutdown when power is lost

More here: https://dashcameras.net/battery-vs-capacitor/

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Old 11th Jun 2022, 17:28
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As your in Lincolnshire do a search for dash am installers in the area,

or search car security / hifi installers

an example

https://www.jct600.co.uk/offers/volk...ferdetail.aspx

Dash cameras - INCAR LINCOLN LTD - Lincs - Page one

https://db-vehicle-electrics.co.uk/d...-lincolnshire/
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 18:24
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Originally Posted by Sue VÍtements View Post
Probably not a battery, but instead a capacitor

I think most of them use a capacitor actually
That makes sense, thanks.
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Old 11th Jun 2022, 18:27
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The consumer organisation Which undertake independent testing of dashcams - currently their top 3 "best buy" dash cams are all from Nextbase - 1st - Nextbase 422GW (approx £129), 2nd - Nextbase 622GW (approx £239), 3rd - Nextbase 222 (approx £80).
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