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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner
She's never won individual Olympic gold before, and I'll suggest you read up on her doping history, but not in British tabloids. 😉
Oh, and plus 🥉
Per
Forgot, she has one previous Olympic gold in the women's relay.
Oh, and plus 🥉
Per
Forgot, she has one previous Olympic gold in the women's relay.
But I have read the decision of the Tribunal Arbitral du Sport (attached).
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
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NBC and the US news in general still has the habit of saying, “An American got the silver in…” without bothering to mention who won the Gold.
I watched the women’s snowboard slopestyle event, and Zoi Sadowski-Synnott won the Gold for New Zealand. Great run. They were scored on the best of three tries, and a lot of the contenders crashed/ landed badly, but she pulled it together to win decidedly on her last run. At least the other two medalists hugged her and were thrilled with her performance
“Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva’s pristine performance in her Olympic debut at the Beijing Games on Sunday drew pure awe from rivals and teammates who praised her prodigious athletic talent and maturity as the gold medal favorite.”
She’s fifteen years old and blew away the competition, but still seems to be a side note in terms of American coverage.
I watched the women’s snowboard slopestyle event, and Zoi Sadowski-Synnott won the Gold for New Zealand. Great run. They were scored on the best of three tries, and a lot of the contenders crashed/ landed badly, but she pulled it together to win decidedly on her last run. At least the other two medalists hugged her and were thrilled with her performance
“Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva’s pristine performance in her Olympic debut at the Beijing Games on Sunday drew pure awe from rivals and teammates who praised her prodigious athletic talent and maturity as the gold medal favorite.”
She’s fifteen years old and blew away the competition, but still seems to be a side note in terms of American coverage.
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Originally Posted by visibility3miles
NBC and the US news in general still has the habit of saying, “An American got the silver in…” without bothering to mention who won the Gold.
I watched the women’s snowboard slopestyle event, and Zoi Sadowski-Synnott won the Gold for New Zealand. Great run. They were scored on the best of three tries, and a lot of the contenders crashed/ landed badly, but she pulled it together to win decidedly on her last run. At least the other two medalists hugged her and were thrilled with her performance
“Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva’s pristine performance in her Olympic debut at the Beijing Games on Sunday drew pure awe from rivals and teammates who praised her prodigious athletic talent and maturity as the gold medal favorite.”
She’s fifteen years old and blew away the competition, but still seems to be a side note in terms of American coverage.
I watched the women’s snowboard slopestyle event, and Zoi Sadowski-Synnott won the Gold for New Zealand. Great run. They were scored on the best of three tries, and a lot of the contenders crashed/ landed badly, but she pulled it together to win decidedly on her last run. At least the other two medalists hugged her and were thrilled with her performance
“Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva’s pristine performance in her Olympic debut at the Beijing Games on Sunday drew pure awe from rivals and teammates who praised her prodigious athletic talent and maturity as the gold medal favorite.”
She’s fifteen years old and blew away the competition, but still seems to be a side note in terms of American coverage.
Fortunately we have access to BBC, European rights holder Eurosport, and can also view the free to air coverage provided by the German national broadcasters. This weekend we have dipped into all three, but principally Eurosport and ZDF. The German coverage isn't much less "nationalist" unfortunately, but I guess not surprisingly Eurosport's coverage is by its very nature covering the sport, irrespective of which nationality has won the medals, and doesn't just concentrate on European success to the detriment of North American, Asian or competitors from any other nation or region.
The Winter Olympics are favoured over Summer ones in this household, although I have to say some of the newer "alpine" events - slopestyle, moguls and their like leave me cold. I am very much a traditionalist, preferring traditional alpine and nordic skiing along with biathlon and the ice canal events - luge, skeleton and bob.
Yesterdays women's and todays men's HS95 ski jumping competitions were both really good competitions, even though the facilities appear to be very prone to shifting winds and both competitions were very fortunate not to be too wind affected. The men's 30km skiathlon somewhat less so.
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
And this time she did it without the anabolic steroids.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
So far as we know.....
After Mr Bolshunov's performance in the 30km Skiathlon today the result of post race tests might be interesting as he blew the field apart.
After Mr Bolshunov's performance in the 30km Skiathlon today the result of post race tests might be interesting as he blew the field apart.
Now I want the Red, Blue and White to win, however Bolshunov is an absolute monster of a ski racer, and is one of the Russians I don't believe has been involved in any doping during his career, so your insinuation is both disgusting and slightly defamatory.
And I am no big supporter of Russian sports for the exact reason of their past systematic doping program, however I am fairly convinced Bolshunov is not part of that.
And as for Johaug, know the proper background of that story, and not what garbage you might just find by browsing the internet, and you would know much better what happen.
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truckflyer:
My tongue was firmly in my cheek regarding Bolshunov's run this morning, it was a monumental effort. I really do hope that nothing untoward is uncovered. As for Johaug she was found out but like pretty well every other athlete winter or summer that has been caught she refused to accept she had done anything wrong.
I do hope that Russia has learnt their lesson regarding doping, the nordic sports are poorer when any competitors are cheating.
My tongue was firmly in my cheek regarding Bolshunov's run this morning, it was a monumental effort. I really do hope that nothing untoward is uncovered. As for Johaug she was found out but like pretty well every other athlete winter or summer that has been caught she refused to accept she had done anything wrong.
I do hope that Russia has learnt their lesson regarding doping, the nordic sports are poorer when any competitors are cheating.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
truckflyer:
As for Johaug she was found out but like pretty well every other athlete winter or summer that has been caught she refused to accept she had done anything wrong.
As for Johaug she was found out but like pretty well every other athlete winter or summer that has been caught she refused to accept she had done anything wrong.
It was a lip cream, that all parties agreed did not enhance performance.
Very much different than some British and American cyclists did not enhance their performance.
Furthermore someone higher up wanted her out of the 2018 Olympics. To call her a "doping cheat" is well out of order.
I would say most Norwegian skier's are clean. While Russia and USA made it an industry to find ways to cheat the system.
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Originally Posted by truckflyer
You clearly do not have clue what you are talking about, but that's the problem with things you read on the internet, it makes people come with dumb statements like you just did now.
I probably did read it originally "on the internet" or heard it on TV.
So what's your preferred source? Pick it up via the colander on your head?
Do I know that she was caught out after deliberately using performance enhancing drugs? I do not.
Do I think that her defense clearly exonerated her? I do not.
Nor did the Tribunal Arbitral.
"I didn't read the label" is not a credible excuse in this day and age.
She's just one of a thousand "sports persons" who have had a half-credible "out" when detected with prohibited substances in their urine sample.
It's the "half-credibility" that saved her from a more extensive penalty.
The real question is why the Norwegian Confederation of Sport gave her a half-arsed penalty that would have allowed her to compete in the PyeongChang Olympics
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Why are there not skiers from South America participating in the Olympics?. The Andes are a most impressive mountain range and one would think that there could be hundreds of top flight downhill runs tucked here and there.
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I watched the women’s moguls, and got bored pretty quickly.
Yes, it takes a lot of leg strength to go go down that hill very fast, and they had two jumps where they had to do tricks, but otherwise not as enthralling as a slalom or snowboarding tricks.
I never knew that there was a trick called the “Truck Driver,” where you do a somersault and (try to) grab your skis midair as if you are driving an 18-wheeler truck.
Now I know. Zzz… Not that I could ever achieve such a feat..
Is the point that you could risk a broken back while going downhill fast?
Yes, it takes a lot of leg strength to go go down that hill very fast, and they had two jumps where they had to do tricks, but otherwise not as enthralling as a slalom or snowboarding tricks.
I never knew that there was a trick called the “Truck Driver,” where you do a somersault and (try to) grab your skis midair as if you are driving an 18-wheeler truck.
Now I know. Zzz… Not that I could ever achieve such a feat..
Is the point that you could risk a broken back while going downhill fast?
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Originally Posted by visibility3miles
I watched the women’s moguls, and got bored pretty quickly.
Yes, it takes a lot of leg strength to go go down that hill very fast, and they had two jumps where they had to do tricks, but otherwise not as enthralling as a slalom or snowboarding tricks.
Yes, it takes a lot of leg strength to go go down that hill very fast, and they had two jumps where they had to do tricks, but otherwise not as enthralling as a slalom or snowboarding tricks.
Maybe because I could never ski moguls without kneeing myself in the face at least once.
Horses for courses, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fred
Why are there not skiers from South America participatingin the Olympics?. The Andes are a most impressive mountain range and one would think that there could be hundreds of top flight downhill runs tucked here and there.
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Originally Posted by visibility3miles
“Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva’s pristine performance in her Olympic debut at the Beijing Games on Sunday drew pure awe from rivals and teammates who praised her prodigious athletic talent and maturity as the gold medal favorite.”
She’s fifteen years old and blew away the competition, but still seems to be a side note in terms of American coverage.
She’s fifteen years old and blew away the competition, but still seems to be a side note in terms of American coverage.
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
I have never read anything (nothing) in a British tabloid other than from occasional links in PPRuNe.
But I have read the decision of the Tribunal Arbitral du Sport (attached).
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
But I have read the decision of the Tribunal Arbitral du Sport (attached).
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fred
Why are there not skiers from South America participating in the Olympics?. The Andes are a most impressive mountain range and one would think that there could be hundreds of top flight downhill runs tucked here and there.
Per
Now one from Chile.
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner
I'm watching ladies GS as I write and I've seen Mexican and Argentinian skiers so far. And now one from Malaysia. They're there, but not up there.
Per
Now one from Chile.
Per
Now one from Chile.
And Schiffrin is out, go USA. Too bad, one of the Greats.
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner
I'm not defending her, but in the release you've linked to they call it a "non-significant fault".
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Because like the panel who sentenced her, I do not have clear evidence, or any evidence for that matter, that what she did was deliberate or concocted.
But I do know that she is either incredibly cunning or incredibly stupid.
And that goes for the doctor who gave her the lip balm as well.
As I said in a previous post, "not reading the label" when you're an Olympic athlete just doesn't cut the mustard.
It is the very reason that the "non-significant fault" verdict and penalties exists.
