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Oz sends Novak Djokovic packing

Old 10th Jan 2022, 21:31
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
I would be happy to but sadly I'm triple vaccinated!
Just don't show it.
I'm not from Serbia, but I can easily get one of those nationalist Serbia T-shirts. Who's paying for my tickets?
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 22:18
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Originally Posted by m0nkfish View Post
The problem is that it suits large business and certain governments to keep the people scared.
No it doesn‘t. It very obviously does not suit businesses, big and small, not to do business and have trade impaired. Nor does it suit governments to commit themselves to swinging debt to cradle the economy until normal business can resume.

Whatever pills you have been taking, throw them away as your grasp on reality is slipping.


As to Novax: What a complete dick.
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 22:59
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Originally Posted by kitchen bench View Post
So, you're effectively suggesting he doesn't have to follow the immigration entry requirements ..................... a special rule for one and not for all?
Australian culture is fundamentally based on a foundation of fairness. It's blatantly not fair to cancel someone's visa before they've had an opportunity to respond to the Notice of Intention to Cancel. Australian Border Force didn't follow the rules. Ultimately the Government backed down and agreed to a consent order rather than have the Federal Circuit Court make an adverse finding against it, which the Judge invariably would have done should the Government not conceded. The Government knew its position was hopeless. This was a fair outcome.
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 23:03
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Originally Posted by Dave Gittins View Post

I don't understand why he would be allowed to stay (after due process has been properly followed) if he is

a) Unvaccinated
b) unable to show medical evidence that he cannot be vaccinated.
That is a decision for the Minister to make, not the Judge. The Minister can still make that decision if he wants to. But he won't.
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 23:28
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From my reading Novak got off on a technicality, not that he had complied with the entry requirements. What the judge said,
"The applicant (Djokovic) was told at 5:20 a.m. on Thursday, 6th January 2022, that he could have until 8:30 a.m. to provide comment in response to a notice of intention to consider cancelation," said Kelly.
"The applicant's comments were then sought at 6:14 a.m. instead. The delegate's (the Ministry of Home Affairs) decision was made at 7:42 a.m. The applicant was thus denied until 8:30 a.m. to make comments. If the applicant had had until 8:30 a.m, he could have consulted others and made submissions to the delegate about why his visa should not be canceled."
No different to a murderer escaping justice through a technicality. If he plays it's going to be a circus, TA and sponsors will love it because the ratings will be sky high.
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 23:45
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I see poor schmucks sitting in the "naughty corner" every day with visa or entry issues and awaiting their turnaround orders. I'll tell them to make sure they bring a tennis racquet with them next time.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 00:40
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was View Post
I see poor schmucks sitting in the "naughty corner" every day with visa or entry issues and awaiting their turnaround orders. I'll tell them to make sure they bring a tennis racquet with them next time.
Anyone can carry a tennis racquet. Very few can return a 140 mph serve at tournament-level play. An athlete at the pinnacle of their sport enjoys considerable leverage (see Woods, Eldrick T.). Like it or not, thatís the way it is.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 02:02
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
What Jokovic needs to answer is, if he tested positive on Dec16, then why was he shown hobnobbing with others a day later sans mask. Surely he should gave been isolating. The truth is that he wasn't testing+.
the cutoff to apply for a medical exemption based on previously having WuHu flu was December 10. He didn’t test positive until December 16. So he applied for the exemption before actually contracting it, if you believe he contracted it at all a second time having really contracted when he organised that tennis tournament over a year ago. And as you say he was out and about in the days immediately after his positive result which is against Serbian requirements to isolate for 14 days.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 03:11
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Anyone can carry a tennis racquet.
I'm sorry, the [Sarcasm on<>Sarcasm off] flags must not be recognized by your browser.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 04:09
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There's more. Sections of the Australian press are reporting that a person of interest may have made a false declaration on his entry from for OZ. Apparently he declared that he had not travelled in the 14 days leading up to his arrival in MEL. Reportedly that's not the case.There's a possibility therefore that if the inquiries being made in this matter firm up on the allegation that a false declaration was made, that he might be in Oz for longer than just the tournament. The penalty for making a false declaration can range up to 12 months in the slammer.

Since he's going to be here for a while anyway, you can be sure that this will get a lot of very careful scrutiny by people whose job it is to do so - time is on their side. Imagine the irony if by winning his first case he (no doubt unwittingly) set himself up for a more unpleasant outcome.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/t...ad593cfeffdec9


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Old 11th Jan 2022, 05:27
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Originally Posted by Foxxster View Post
the cutoff to apply for a medical exemption based on previously having WuHu flu was December 10. He didnít test positive until December 16. So he applied for the exemption before actually contracting it, if you believe he contracted it at all a second time having really contracted when he organised that tennis tournament over a year ago. And as you say he was out and about in the days immediately after his positive result which is against Serbian requirements to isolate for 14 days.
And the Djokovic familyís response to this matter proved how little they cared about it.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 05:32
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To think that all this could have been avoided.

Itís just a matter of a few pricks.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 08:14
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Time to change the thread title, methinks.....
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 08:27
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Time to change the thread title, methinks.....
That may be somewhat premature. Deportation is still an option if the Australian Government plays all their cards.

We'll see soon enough
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 08:38
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One thing is clear.

No fan of the Joker or conspiracy vaccine theories, but at least he has shown the world what welcome you get returning to Australia. After 8 hours of flying passengers are made to walk the tightrope of Australian border security. It's ok if you know the system tick every box declare everything it is bad in normal times, now you have extra covid chips as well. Meanwhile, in communist Hong Kong you step off the aircraft and breeze through in minutes with a barcode on your Australian passport. Well, we used too but at least it's clear. don't come this month.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 09:32
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Worked for a couple of airlines with a large Aus contingent, fairly obvious. They are not the laid back Crocodile Dundeeís that they think they are. Now some of my best friends are Aussies and I like them very much. However the nation holds some of the globeís biggest jobsworths and this is reflected in their approach to the pandemic. I admire Mr D and I do think that he is a special case as the 9 times winner of their tournament. I would suggest that the Australians look to their mediocre (like everywhere) politicians for the real villains.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 09:52
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Originally Posted by olster View Post
Worked for a couple of airlines with a large Aus contingent, fairly obvious. They are not the laid back Crocodile Dundeeís that they think they are. Now some of my best friends are Aussies and I like them very much. However the nation holds some of the globeís biggest jobsworths and this is reflected in their approach to the pandemic. I admire Mr D and I do think that he is a special case as the 9 times winner of their tournament. I would suggest that the Australians look to their mediocre (like everywhere) politicians for the real villains.
What difference does it make if he has won the tournament 9 times ? He is unvaccinated, has mixed freely after supposedly testing positive for the virus ( plenty of photographic evidence) and lied on his entry documentation when he "forgot" to mention that he had been in Spain prior to travelling to Australia.
Yes, the border control authorities royally screwed up the entire entry process, but he should still be deported.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 09:54
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Originally Posted by olster View Post
Worked for a couple of airlines with a large Aus contingent, fairly obvious. They are not the laid back Crocodile Dundeeís that they think they are. Now some of my best friends are Aussies and I like them very much. However the nation holds some of the globeís biggest jobsworths and this is reflected in their approach to the pandemic. I admire Mr D and I do think that he is a special case as the 9 times winner of their tournament. I would suggest that the Australians look to their mediocre (like everywhere) politicians for the real villains.
So he's won the Australian Open 9 times. Does that exempt him from the rules, however stupid or disproportionate you or he believes they are, from complying with them?
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 11:09
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This is not so much about some millionaire trying to get around the rules but about everyone of us accepting these rules. In my country during the Nazi regime, we banned jews, gypsies and other non-compliant minorities from the economy and social life, we dirt campaigned and dehumanized them in all available media outlouts and eventually went on to mark and murder them in concentration camps. "for the greater good of the nation". Today I find myself in the same country, isolated from society, even from most shops, unemployable, for refusing the genetherpy that nearly killed my close friend (cerebral venous sinus thrombosis), as someone who had covid and recovered from it (natural immunity has an expiry right?). I'm not at all surprised that most pilots accepted the jab, under false promises, safe or not, it doesn't matter. Most of you just go along because you have been trained to be obedient self-disrespecting individuals with ever degrading pay and conditions. If you will not learn to stand up for yourseleves, it being the vax or your terms of employment, things will continue to get worse than they already are. Do you not slowly feel betrayed from the false promises you fell for? Basic human rights still not restored? Still locking up healthy people as contact persons, still masking up the kids? Keep complying, you will surely be rewarded in the "economy of the vaccinated", once your booster is required every 3 months. Mr. Graham Wood, I salute you.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 11:09
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AO22 Entry requirements

In line with the latest Government guidelines, all patrons aged 12 years 2 months or older must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or have a valid medical exception.

To watch an unvaccinated player.

Australia. Oh dear.

https://ausopen.com/covid-safe
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