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Old 16th Jan 2022, 06:01
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au revoir....
yes . Gawn daddy Gawn…

correct result regardless of whether you think he is a real health threat
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 06:02
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Devil

SY Radio 2GB reporting 'Just Breaking' NEWS.....

Justice has been 'Serbed'.....the score is AUS 1, Serb nil... (NO 'love'...)...

Cheeerrrsss.....
Now we can get back to our 'normal' aviation news / non-news.....

So it seems.....

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Old 16th Jan 2022, 06:16
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I won't be looking to visit Serbia any time soon ....
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 07:16
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Advised by an Border Force acquaintance today that it is not unusual for them to turn around five or six prospective entrants from a single flight.
A visa gets you to the gate. Entry is subject to scrutiny of your application details
It would make sense for Australia to implement pre-clearance facilities on many routes much like the US does, or has. That would save all the passengers having to be sent back to whence they came, costs, environmentally friendlier etc etc. It would also save Oz from the present theatre, which is doing it no good whatsoever.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 07:44
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack View Post
It would make sense for Australia to implement pre-clearance facilities on many routes much like the US does, or has. That would save all the passengers having to be sent back to whence they came, costs, environmentally friendlier etc etc. It would also save Oz from the present theatre, which is doing it no good whatsoever.
Good in theory but AFAIK the States actually doesn't do that on that many routes....I think there are logistical as well as political sensitivities in having border officials from one country operating in another...
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 07:52
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack View Post
It would make sense for Australia to implement pre-clearance facilities on many routes much like the US does, or has. That would save all the passengers having to be sent back to whence they came, costs, environmentally friendlier etc etc. It would also save Oz from the present theatre, which is doing it no good whatsoever.
I'm not sure where the repatriation costs fall now.
I doubt that the Oz government pays much, if at all.
If they get put back onto the same airline and have a valid return ticket then maybe that ticket is burns up the cost.

If it happens as often as my friend implied then it must get a bit messy at times.
Does anyone here know how that all works?

I doubt that, with the possible permutations of the story, that there would be any serious improvement in the environmental impact.
They'd probably just go somewhere else.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 07:53
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ESTA forms seem to work well in USA and Canada (ETA)

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Old 16th Jan 2022, 07:58
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I'm not sure where the repatriation costs fall now.
I doubt that the Oz government pays much, if at all.
If they get put back onto the same airline and have a valid return ticket then maybe that ticket is burns up the cost.

If it happens as often as my friend implied then it must get a bit messy at times.
Does anyone here know how that all works?

I doubt that, with the possible permutations of the story, that there would be any serious improvement in the environmental impact.
They'd probably just go somewhere else.
pity Ryan air doesn’t operate from Melbourne to Serbia. Or even Jetstar economy. Now that would be a real punishment.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 08:08
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ESTA forms seem to work well in USA and Canada (ETA)

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Serbia is not on the list of visa waiver countries.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 08:11
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Originally Posted by Imagegear View Post
ESTA forms seem to work well in USA and Canada (ETA)

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ESTA works ok for the States but it does not guarantee entry into the country,one still has to queue through the 'immigration' gates for details to be checked/photographed and fingerprinted.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 08:12
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ESTA forms seem to work well in USA and Canada (ETA)

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Indeed, as ND might well discover that this decision in Australia, and any consequential ban on future entry, might result in his ESTA being revoked next time he tries to visit the USA, and thus preclude him from entry to the US Open amongst other events.

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Old 16th Jan 2022, 08:15
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Only one airline out of Melbourne tonight who will accept the unvaccinated. EK409.

ABC claimed he ducked out a side entrance on Collins street just now.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 08:28
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Novak Djokovic's media statement is befitting of a world champion athlete.

I would like to make a brief statement to address the outcomes of today’s court hearing. I will now be taking some time to rest and to recuperate, before making any further comments beyond this.

I am extremely disappointed with the ruling to dismiss my application for judicial review of the minister’s decision to cancel my visa, which means I cannot stay in Australia and participate in the Australian Open.

I respect the court’s ruling and I’ll cooperate with the relevant authorities in relation to my departure from the country.

I am uncomfortable that the focus of the past weeks has been on me and I hope that we can all now focus on the game and tournament I love. I would like to wish the players, tournament officials, staff, volunteers and fans all the best for the tournament.

Finally, I would like to thank my family, friends, team, supporters, fans and my fellow Serbians for your continued support. You have all been a great source of strength to me.
Compare that response with modern football stars who commit rape, drink drive, commit violence, etc then tell the judge "I just want to play football" and get away with with it.

Novak's only crime was being hungry to win the Australian open and raise the bar.

Meanwhile the lunkhead running the State of Victoria, Daniel Andrews, has said he won't be commenting on the decision, probably because he was complicit along with Tennis Australia in this whole sorry saga.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 08:34
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Novak's only crime was being hungry to win the Australian open and raise the bar.
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Not strictly true CT as you well know
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 08:43
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We can be sure that a hero's welcome awaits him when he finally gets home; possibly more so than if he had been somehow excused from breaking the border entry rules in OZ, allowed to stay on and compete, and (probably) winning the A.O.

I have to say that if the released transcript of his discussions with border officials when he first arrived in MEL as reported in The Australian is authentic, then I do have a certain sympathy for him. He appears to be quite accepting of the errors in his documentation, aplogises for them, and appears prepared to get on the next flight out of the country. The article appears to be still behind a paywall - it may be released in a day or so.

This is the headline:

"The moment Djokovic knew he was stuffed

Novak Djokovic thought he had federal government approval to enter Australia. When he was told he didn’t, he apologised and offered to buy his own ticket to Dubai."

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Old 16th Jan 2022, 09:11
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I won't be looking to visit Serbia any time soon


border officials from one country operating in another...
AFAIK, australia has some sort of pre-clearance procedures where an off-shore airline can punch in the passengers details and get uplift approval. Known as APP or something similar. Doesn't necessarily guarantee entry, though, if something is determined to be amiss on arrival.


If they get put back onto the same airline and have a valid return ticket then maybe that ticket is burns up the cost.
IIRC, if your entry is denied, the airline that brought you here is expected to take you back to where you departed, return ticket or not. Happy to be corrected.


We can be sure that a hero's welcome awaits him when he finally gets home
Well, what does that tell you?


His decision at the end of the day to which he's entitled to make. He might just now begin to understand you have to accept any consequences.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 09:20
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On the legal side, is this now a deportation or a refusal of entry?
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 09:31
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Not that long ago Katie Hopkins was deported for mocking our covid protocol having fully complied with all regulations. Then there was Milo Yoannopoulos (?) had his visa cancelled suddenly. Both at the behest of left wing public service unions and extremist groups determined to silence any free thought. No bleating then about human rights.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 09:32
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Originally Posted by FullOppositeRudder View Post
then I do have a certain sympathy for him.
Zero sympathy from me FOR - if one is a player on the international stage then the only common sense covid vax route was to have at least the minimum vaccination(s) to guarantee international travel.
I am not overly keen on vacc/injections in general but even with my VUP status (very unimportant person) I could see right from the early days of vax mentions that it was going to be the only common sense route to allow certain things to happen.
Various vaccinations allowed us to have a decent holiday last year - would have been much more difficult without our jabs.
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 09:38
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On the legal side, is this now a deportation or a refusal of entry?
Many years ago on a holiday to Cancun, we screwed up a Visa application and Mrs LV was denied entry and sent straight back to the UK on the same aircraft we landed in.

We were warned by the airline at the departing gate this could happen with a potential fine to them of upto £2000, which they would pass on. Stupidly, we played our chances. Airline was fined and passed it onto us - £700.

I had a very good holiday 😎 until she sheepishly re-appeared 2 days later.
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