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Old 29th Dec 2021, 20:07
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SS Richard Montgomery to be dismantled

Sunken warship in River Thames with explosives on board could cause ‘mass damage and loss of life’

SS Richard Montgomery to be dismantled by Royal Navy after warnings that further deterioration could cause devices to detonate

The Royal Navy has been called in to dismantle a sunken warship in the River Thames, as the latest assessment says 1,400 tonnes of unstable explosives on board could cause “mass damage and loss of life”.

Bomb disposal experts trained in underwater demolitions have been tasked with making safe the SS Richard Montgomery, after the latest survey warned any further deterioration of the ship could “trigger the unexploded ordnance”.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ld-cause-mass/

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Old 29th Dec 2021, 20:14
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Wasn't that one of the reasons why a new airport on "Boris Island" couldn't be built? Perhaps he can have another go at that project after leaving his present job on a wave of success.
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Old 29th Dec 2021, 21:04
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The Richard Montgomery is not a "sunken warship", It is an American built Liberty ship.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 03:26
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The Richard Montgomery is not a "sunken warship"
Still wouldn't want to have an argument with one, typically had a three inch gun at the bow, five inch gun at the stern, 20mm AA guns at stern and fore and aft of the superstructure.
It is an American built Liberty ship
Interested to learn the Liberty was of British design originally.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 08:05
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Couldn't it be 'blown up' with gongoozlers at a safe distance?
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 08:30
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How about new years eve two for one, on the strike of midnight.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 08:31
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No, the resulting wave is predicted to cause major damage and possible loss of life in places like Southend on Sea.

There’s 1400 tons of TNT on board and oil and gas handling facilities nearby.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 08:44
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Originally Posted by Alsacienne View Post
Couldn't it be 'blown up' with gongoozlers at a safe distance?
The authorities have been dreading it blowing up ever since it sank and the whole point of the exercise is to avoid that situation. London itself isn’t at a safe distance!
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 09:34
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I think it's something like a mile off Sheerness on the Isle of Sheppey which is the nearest point on the coast. If you haven't been to Sheerness best go quickly in case Sheerness comes to you...
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 10:03
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I think it's something like a mile off Sheerness on the Isle of Sheppey which is the nearest point on the coast. If you haven't been to Sheerness best go quickly in case Sheerness comes to you...
Heaven forfend. If Sheerness isn't the last place God made, he was running short of parts by then.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 10:07
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An example of what the authorities are worried about - Nova Scotia 1917
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 10:22
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So what if it goes bang!! Kent gets a few quids worth of improvements to Sheerness plus a new deep water port.
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I'm surprised the terrorists have not expended brainpower considering its fate. An effective, and possibly cheap method to do a lot of harm with only a small amount of effort.
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They’re taking the masts off because if the fall they could detonate it, a bit of a stupid situation , they wouldn’t touch it when it was relatively stable but now 50 years plus later when it’s unstable they are attempting to do something.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 12:50
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Originally Posted by Thirsty View Post
I'm surprised the terrorists have not expended brainpower considering its fate. An effective, and possibly cheap method to do a lot of harm with only a small amount of effort.
And I'm surprised that anyone expended brainpower considering that that was appropriate to post on a public forum.

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'Security by obscurity' is the modern term for 'head in the sand'. If this was Lebanon, we might be politely smirking behind our palms, but right there, in the middle of the Thames, in plain sight of thousands of passing immigrants with a chip on their shoulder....
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Originally Posted by Thirsty View Post
'Security by obscurity' is the modern term for 'head in the sand'. If this was Lebanon, we might be politely smirking behind our palms, but right there, in the middle of the Thames, in plain sight of thousands of passing immigrants with a chip on their shoulder....
And an encyclopaedic knowledge of WWII history?
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Originally Posted by Thirsty View Post
'Security by obscurity' is the modern term for 'head in the sand'. If this was Lebanon, we might be politely smirking behind our palms, but right there, in the middle of the Thames, in plain sight of thousands of passing immigrants with a chip on their shoulder....
I would love you elaborate or justify that last sentence.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 14:06
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As the surrounding land on both N and S banks of the thames Estuary are low lying for some distance, the resulting shockwave of a major explosion would blow out 100,000's of windows, plus as has been mentioned the refinery/storage and distribution facilities, and to add an aviation context, Southend Airport.

I suppose the SS RM has been left alone (head in sand/whatever) because it IS such a tricky and complex salvage operation, with a more than acceptable risk of death and injury to the salvage crew and the risk of destruction onshore. I've no doubt that with today's technology it can be done, but the utmost care and concentration will be needed over many months. I trust that the residents in Essex and Kent will be informed if this goes ahead.
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https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-...laying-5464584

A contractor is being sought to carry out the removal of the masts from the SS Richard Montgomery.

The masts, which are visible above the water line, are thought to be placing undue stress on the rest of the vessel’s structure, and thus the plan to cut them down in height.

The Ministry of Defence is offering to pay £5million to any company prepared to remove the rusting masts.
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