Is your dishwasher the most disgusting thing in your house?
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Two in my household. You would run a full cycle for a couple of plates, knives and forks and a couple of oven dishes after dinner in the evening?
How many in your household?
Breakfast is usually toast so no dishes involved. No dishes at lunchtime.
How many in your household?
Breakfast is usually toast so no dishes involved. No dishes at lunchtime.
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Originally Posted by pulse1
A friend of mine has two dishwashers so they never have to put away clean crockery and cutlery. They just take it out of the clean one when they want to use it, and put it in the dirty one when they have finished with it.
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PS Not sure why living in an apartment means you have to use a drier almost daily.
We eat every day.
We don't wash (or need to dry) clothes every day.
Simples.
We don't wash (or need to dry) clothes every day.
Simples.
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We have a dishwasher. Used to be 5 of us, now down to 2 and a bit (She's out most of the time and so rarely eats with us). Goes on most nights, emptied first thing, very rarely things need drying. Would always have one. Also, have a tumble dryer. Love that too.
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Originally Posted by terrain safe
We have a dishwasher. Used to be 5 of us, now down to 2 and a bit (She's out most of the time and so rarely eats with us). Goes on most nights, emptied first thing, very rarely things need drying. Would always have one. Also, have a tumble dryer. Love that too.
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I'm with Terrain,
Used to be seven or eight of us at table, now down to two but still use the D/washer every night. Fill it up after dinner and put it on when we go to bed so we don't have to listen to it, though the one we have now is very quiet.
The only thing to annoy is that SWMBO refuses to learn how to load it properly, just chucks everything in willy nilly so in defense I end up doing it. On the other hand that means she unloads it in the am, which I hate doing anyway. It is not the sharing that frosts me, it is her utter unwillingness to try and understand mechanical things. Even when they are new I have to run around after her sorting and fixing! The army should borrow her to test out the frangibility of their tanks, I sure am not letting her loose on a dishwasher.
Used to be seven or eight of us at table, now down to two but still use the D/washer every night. Fill it up after dinner and put it on when we go to bed so we don't have to listen to it, though the one we have now is very quiet.
The only thing to annoy is that SWMBO refuses to learn how to load it properly, just chucks everything in willy nilly so in defense I end up doing it. On the other hand that means she unloads it in the am, which I hate doing anyway. It is not the sharing that frosts me, it is her utter unwillingness to try and understand mechanical things. Even when they are new I have to run around after her sorting and fixing! The army should borrow her to test out the frangibility of their tanks, I sure am not letting her loose on a dishwasher.
Join Date: May 2009
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We've never had one - always a manual job for the last 50+ years with everyone doing their bit. Interestingly the philosophy seems to have been adopted by our offspring; each of them live in houses where one was already installed, but they rarely use them. Visitors occasionally express surprise that we oldies still don't have one, but now there's only the two of us, and the tradition has continued. It would be piece of wretched technology to learn to use, and another thing to break down. I could predict with confidence that there would be conflict over when it would be used, how it would be loaded - and unloaded - and I thank those of you in this thread for advising of potential trouble in these areas, thus affirming our reluctance to get involved.
And these days, and at our age, it would be just too hard to bend down and load the damn thing anyway - and unload it again. The sink is at a comfortable working height, something which we now seek out in (almost) everything we do.
And these days, and at our age, it would be just too hard to bend down and load the damn thing anyway - and unload it again. The sink is at a comfortable working height, something which we now seek out in (almost) everything we do.
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Dishwashers vary in quality. A good one is brilliant. I had a lodger who made me buy one and have had one ever since. They are water efficient, wash cleaner and at higher temperatures and dry the contents naturally.
I would no more dream of putting plates caked in food to fester than fly to the moon. We rinse the debris off plates and the machine gets used, with just two of us, at least every other day. It does not smell and is not in any way unpleasant.
For those who enjoy washing up, fill your boots!
I would no more dream of putting plates caked in food to fester than fly to the moon. We rinse the debris off plates and the machine gets used, with just two of us, at least every other day. It does not smell and is not in any way unpleasant.
For those who enjoy washing up, fill your boots!
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In a small flat I used to live in I installed drawer type dishwashers, the two of them sit one above the other in a normal kitchen 600mm space. Only two of us so it was easy to fill one after even a light lunch, and used only half power/water/detergent. Use both when you have a bigger dinner. They were brilliant, made in New Zealand, forgot the name.
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So, so odd. Don't get it. But, I succumbed when I saw a used one in a local shop that sells posh stuff. Given that I look upon dishwashers on a par with telephone sanitisers, I allow this one a grunt of approval. It fitted well into an alcove which backed onto the boiler-house, a little room ~ 4.5' square. Hot water in abundance so fast cycle. However, dishwashers need softened water* so there was a mini ion-exchange cylinder on the back of the machine. It would not tolerate hot water so I took it out, since our water was softened. Nice finish.**
We'd bought our 7' double sink, double drainer with us from the flat we lived in when first married. When I built the kitchen I had to scheme in the imperial sink onto the metric units. There it stayed for 30 years - a good £50's worth. I built a tea serving unit in the alcove with its own sink. Through the door towards the integral garage there was the butler's sink, the fine large one that came with the house. Very, very handy, that was. I was planning a 5th sink for the garage when I sold the house. Next it was Texas.
As always there was a double sink with a 1/2 sink in the middle. The washing machine came with the house, Americans seem to leave their kit as part of the deal, and it was an old Kenwood???? that everyone seemed to have. There was some justification as we did grand-parenting after the school-days and then dinner in the evenings. The Rivetess is the most intelligent person in the Universe, or so she informed me . . . without actually boasting. But I conceed not one thing was ever out of place when it comes to the previously mentioned physics. She took into account the jet velocities and directions, kinetic and potential energies, along with centrifugal pseudo-forces. One was awe-struck . . . for the entire hour it took to load. When the spikey things rusted trough their plastic coating I pleaded for the machines reprieve. A bit of red rust and plastic particles were a minor annoyance, and we owed the machine a bit of loyalty.
In the meantime, I tried to demonstrate that having one sink full of soapy water meant that I could wash up while dinner was being prepared. It worked well, but a Maytag found its way into the slot and sat there proving new kit can be bewilderingly naff. It truly was a quite worthless lump.
What about a water leak? It's on mains pressure, same as here, 50-60 psi, and needed some safety device. I put in a stainless braided pipe with a flow detection valve in it. It seemed to work. Open end, it'd cut off. Trouble was, it cost 15% of the deal I'd got on the machine.
** finish on glass etc., can not be bought with product. I spent a lot of time arguing this at the Yacht club bar. 'But we've just paid 800 quid for a glass washer'. 'Sorry, but I'd like to take my glass home.'
'Doesn't this feel nice!?' our lovely lassies used to say . . . when they were holding my glass. They did. Hot water and freshly washed linen. Lots of rubbing. Optically clean glass fit for a lab. No way could this be replicated in even the expensive machine. Just look at the waiters in posh restaurants. Rub rub rub. However, catching a glimpse of them wiping their noses on the cloth kind of spoils the magic.
*Softened water is nice. When I scrapped our UK AEG washing machine after 20+ years, it was like new inside, so I'd guess it was imperative to keep the softener thingie prepared in dishwashers. There's been no mention of that. I've never been convinced that topping up the salt thing really does back-wash the softener. I suppose it must cycle appropriately, but there doesn't seem to be a manual procedure - is there?
We'd bought our 7' double sink, double drainer with us from the flat we lived in when first married. When I built the kitchen I had to scheme in the imperial sink onto the metric units. There it stayed for 30 years - a good £50's worth. I built a tea serving unit in the alcove with its own sink. Through the door towards the integral garage there was the butler's sink, the fine large one that came with the house. Very, very handy, that was. I was planning a 5th sink for the garage when I sold the house. Next it was Texas.
As always there was a double sink with a 1/2 sink in the middle. The washing machine came with the house, Americans seem to leave their kit as part of the deal, and it was an old Kenwood???? that everyone seemed to have. There was some justification as we did grand-parenting after the school-days and then dinner in the evenings. The Rivetess is the most intelligent person in the Universe, or so she informed me . . . without actually boasting. But I conceed not one thing was ever out of place when it comes to the previously mentioned physics. She took into account the jet velocities and directions, kinetic and potential energies, along with centrifugal pseudo-forces. One was awe-struck . . . for the entire hour it took to load. When the spikey things rusted trough their plastic coating I pleaded for the machines reprieve. A bit of red rust and plastic particles were a minor annoyance, and we owed the machine a bit of loyalty.
In the meantime, I tried to demonstrate that having one sink full of soapy water meant that I could wash up while dinner was being prepared. It worked well, but a Maytag found its way into the slot and sat there proving new kit can be bewilderingly naff. It truly was a quite worthless lump.
What about a water leak? It's on mains pressure, same as here, 50-60 psi, and needed some safety device. I put in a stainless braided pipe with a flow detection valve in it. It seemed to work. Open end, it'd cut off. Trouble was, it cost 15% of the deal I'd got on the machine.
** finish on glass etc., can not be bought with product. I spent a lot of time arguing this at the Yacht club bar. 'But we've just paid 800 quid for a glass washer'. 'Sorry, but I'd like to take my glass home.'
'Doesn't this feel nice!?' our lovely lassies used to say . . . when they were holding my glass. They did. Hot water and freshly washed linen. Lots of rubbing. Optically clean glass fit for a lab. No way could this be replicated in even the expensive machine. Just look at the waiters in posh restaurants. Rub rub rub. However, catching a glimpse of them wiping their noses on the cloth kind of spoils the magic.
*Softened water is nice. When I scrapped our UK AEG washing machine after 20+ years, it was like new inside, so I'd guess it was imperative to keep the softener thingie prepared in dishwashers. There's been no mention of that. I've never been convinced that topping up the salt thing really does back-wash the softener. I suppose it must cycle appropriately, but there doesn't seem to be a manual procedure - is there?
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I average two cycles per day with the dishwasher, family of four mostly eating at home due to COVID. That's a standard size dishwasher, you can find small counter top models available, suitable for a single person in a small apartment which would fill upon after a couple of meals.
Used correctly, a dishwasher cleans better as higher temperatures are used compared to washing by handing. Questionable value for someone living alone who mostly eats out, but for a family it ranks just behind a washing machine.
Used correctly, a dishwasher cleans better as higher temperatures are used compared to washing by handing. Questionable value for someone living alone who mostly eats out, but for a family it ranks just behind a washing machine.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
You wash them? how quaint, I just bin them and buy afresh.
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Originally Posted by ChrisVJ
………………….It is not the sharing that frosts me, it is her utter unwillingness to try and understand mechanical things. Even when they are new I have to run around after her sorting and fixing! The army should borrow her to test out the frangibility of their tanks, I sure am not letting her loose on a dishwasher.
I bought her a top quality, very expensive food mixer (she loves baking). The first time she used the blender attachment, which sits on top, she left the mixing hook on and the whisk attachment in the bowl (wtf?). When she switched it on, they mangled each other. The instruction booklet was somewhere just off to one side…..
She’s recently managed to blow up two portable halogen cookers. The second one blew a 30 Amp ring main circuit breaker with a very loud bang. She said nothing about it but just casually mentioned that the sockets in the kitchen weren’t working. I found the CB and sorted it. The very next day she loaded the cooker with food and plugged it in again. No guessing what happened! Scared the living daylights out of me but apparently I’m just a wuss! The cooker (which has a black burn mark in it) has been since pushed to the place where I sit, waiting to be returned to the supplier. Obviously, she threw the box away as soon as she opened it…. It’s somehow become my responsibility.
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Fill it up after dinner and put it on when we go to bed so we don't have to listen to it,
Makes me wonder about the future if they ever insist on their use during those hours for energy saving reasons….
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The only truly useful thing our washer does is clean the grease filters in the cooker hood. It is useless for the things it should be used for, like my favourite frying pan and wok. If you succeed in getting them in, there is no room for anything else. None of my wooden utensils that I use every time I cook can go through it. The pressure cooker that sees nearly daily use does not fit either. By the time you have done those items by hand, there is only a couple of plates and the cutlery left.
