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Old 29th Jun 2021, 04:10
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I have experimented with home-built solar heaters and the current version makes a huge difference. The pipe is flexible 30mm black ribbed garden pond tubing coiled up in a frame 1.5m squared with a clear Perspex sheet on the front. It's nicknamed "the ammonite" for obvious reasons. The feed is the clean side of the filter pump and the outlet water is a good 5 degrees warmer than the pool. With the cover on and a day of hot sunshine, it's like a warm bath by around 17:00. If I allow it to heat up with the pump off, the first 30 seconds output is like the kitchen hot tap.

Don't be tempted to try garden hose sprayed black as the back pressure is too much for the pump. A large volume of water with a small temperature rise has the same thermal energy as a small volume of hot water so I prefer to have a high flow rate.

Here's a link to something similar.

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Old 29th Jun 2021, 04:50
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A couple of friends of mine, both doctors, living on the UK south coast, no children living at home, small outside pool.
After a few years they had the pool removed because of the expense and the small number of weeks it could realistically be used.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 05:00
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As others have said, to keep a pool in good condition requires constant work and several KWH of power every day. To keep it in absolutely pristine condition with crystal clear water requires at least an hour's work every day with obsessive testing, monitoring, adjusting, pumping, cleaning, skimming......etc. And, from my observations, most pools get very little use from the owners, they serve mainly to attract visitors, which may or may not be a good thing!
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 05:05
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Originally Posted by Blues&twos View Post
A couple of friends of mine, both doctors, living on the UK south coast, no children living at home, small outside pool.
After a few years they had the pool removed because of the expense and the small number of weeks it could realistically be used.
A glance down when arr / dep MAN over Knutsford offers the sight of numerous outdoor pools.

This area of Cheshire is famed for it's year round tropical eco-system..
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 05:51
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Years ago I was told that the best sort of pool to have was the one in your neighbour’s garden.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 06:12
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Sounds to me like a divorce would be cheaper.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 07:19
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I run a 50 cubic metre pool and use it April to October but I'm Ok with water above 18C. I don't find it hugely expensive or hard work but the single most useful accessory is a good hard cover of some kind for when it's not in use.
This keeps out debris, reduces evaporation from wind prevents chlorine loss from UV light and helps retain heat.
At the end of the season, I shock it with chlorine, close the cover and that's it till spring. I spend about 50 Euros a year on Chlorine tablets.
I have friends who keep open pools and spend hundreds per season on chemicals so the cover is a big bonus.
Pump runs 8-12 hours a day depending on use.
Admittedly we have a climate that makes it worthwhile.
PM if you want more info, don't want to bog the thread down.

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Old 29th Jun 2021, 07:36
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its a bit like owning a boat, except the water is on the inside....
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 07:38
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I have a 10,000 gallon pool - about 50,000 litres. I run it from May to September.
Pumps and etc are in a brick shed nearby.
I live about 25m West of London.
It costs me about UKP130 per annum in chemicals, and I pay a pool man about UKP150 at the beginning of the season, and UKP 150 at the end of the season. He closes it up at the end of the season with a large plastic cover.
Heating it up with gas at the beginning costs about UKP100 to 150. Then, the plastic bubble cover tends to keep it warm.
Every now and then there are big slugs of capital - new pump, new heater, new filter unit, sand filter replacements.
Heater needs a little maintenance, about UKP 400 every 3 years. Might replace it with heat extractor.
SWMBO is a keen swimmer, but tends to prefer the giant pool at her gym.
Grand daughter loves it.
It came with the house. I would not install a new one unless I had young children. When we moved in, our children were young and loved it. As did their friends.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 08:57
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Actual answers with numbers! Thanks everyone.

BFraser... Interested in your diy heater setup (seen em before)- how is it linked in? Added to the fixed heating loop; or run on a separate loop? Ta.

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Old 29th Jun 2021, 09:04
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I would not install a new one unless I had young children
Depends how young - a pool is a huge danger for small children who can't yet swim. One of our neighbours in California filled in the pool in the house they bought for exactly this reason. When we lived in France before we had a pool, and one of a friend's children fell in. People saw and he was quickly rescued, but all it would take is for everyone to be distracted - yakking away - for a very different outcome.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 09:27
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Originally Posted by Mike6567 View Post
I am looking to move (south in UK) and some houses on the market have pools (I don't want a pool!). Usually the house is not suitable but wonder if a decent house turns up with a pool how much I will have to spend to remove it - or could I just not use the pool (as some agents tell me - they would say that though wouldn't they)?
Throw some teak planks over it and use it to store your Spitfire. Wouldn't draining it, lining it with plastic then backfilling with soil not be better than removing, that way its still there if ever the house is sold? or does that bring with it a bag of worms? just curious.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 09:51
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Having a pool is similar to having a large pet animal, it needs to be fed and kept healthy which isn’t cheap. When I was growing up we had houses with swimming pools and it was a pain maintaining them, testing the water and adding chemicals all the time as well as brushing down the sides and vacuuming. Obviously easier these days with the automatic cleaners but there is still work involved unless you want to pay a pool maintenance company, which won’t be cheap.

Neglect the pool and it will turn green with algae, which requires vast amounts of chlorine to kill and then has to be vacuumed out.

I now live in a condominium with an outdoor pool which I can use most of the year as it’s a tropical location. I pay my condo fees and someone else takes care of the pool. I enjoy swimming almost daily but would not have a pool if I lived in a house, not worth the bother and expense, I’d find a health centre with a heated indoor facility instead.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 10:11
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Those balls on a reservoir have stopped algae growth and they have almost stopped adding chlorine.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 10:20
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On the young kids and grandkids growing up and losing interest argument: in this case, WE are the young kids! We are on a big use it or lose it kick at the mo (64 and 61); and she is newly hooked on swimming for health. (I've always been a water baby.)

'Ninety-six million balls on a reservoir'. Now there's a pub song that's never going to finish!

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Old 29th Jun 2021, 11:23
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
Actual answers with numbers! Thanks everyone.

BFraser... Interested in your diy heater setup (seen em before)- how is it linked in? Added to the fixed heating loop; or run on a separate loop? Ta.

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Hi CG,

I have one solar heater permanently on the clean side of the filter loop. The second heater can be run from a second pump which is one of those immersion types with a float switch, should I need maximum heating. If I just want to keep the temperature topped up then I fit the second in-line with the first heater, running a single pump The twin pump increases the turbulence in the pool so there's more efficient mixing. Keeping the cover on the pool also helps as it is black and in contact with the water. Two days of hot sun will have the water up to the temperature of a warm bath.

The swim-up bar is a neat addition too. Fortunately, I am not under any commercial flight path so I escape the green-eyed glances of the Guardianista contingent.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 11:53
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Two days of hot sun will have the water up to the temperature of a warm bath.
May I ask how much water you have in your pool - ie size?
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 13:19
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Just shy of 20,000 litres at a guess and the panels are rotated through the day.to track the sun. They are also at the correct angle for best efficiency.
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 13:35
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Shouldn't the title be swimming costs?
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