Heads should roll at The Post Office
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The craziest thing it seems to me - having listened to a number of interviews with "victims" - is that in many (all?) cases, the Post Office and the Postmasters Association apparently claimed that an individual's problems were unique. And there were (that we know of) 700+ of them. Life ruined and I believe a number of suicides.......
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Another outsourced IT scandal. And yet Fujitsu are still being given government contracts that fail (Private Eye p.94)
As above, each of these victims never knew that this was a widespread issue and were faced with their own single battle against the Post Office with its powerful legal team.
Of course heads should roll, if they haven't already retired, but this and some money will be little compensation for the ruined lives and families. This should be as big a scandal as Grenfell Tower.
As above, each of these victims never knew that this was a widespread issue and were faced with their own single battle against the Post Office with its powerful legal team.
Of course heads should roll, if they haven't already retired, but this and some money will be little compensation for the ruined lives and families. This should be as big a scandal as Grenfell Tower.
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Well as SA has already mentioned Fujitsu, and IT, and "Private Eye ", this narrows the field down to the former CEO who didn't exactly emerge penniless. .....truly, the Lord moves in mysterious ways at times...
Post Office’s aggressive pursuit of staff casts shadow over ex-boss’s tenure | Post Office | The Guardian
Post Office’s aggressive pursuit of staff casts shadow over ex-boss’s tenure | Post Office | The Guardian
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DR UK - those responsible, certainly the Big Cheese, have moved on to further well-remunerated positions.
As a simpleton , never involved in business, I have to wonder at the very basic level of competence displayed in this appalling tragedy. If, Heaven forbid, I were to be head of any business which, coincident with the introduction of new software found itself suffering a sudden enormous increase in apparent illegal activity, I would hope to do better than this bunch of oxygen thieves. What were their qualifications for their appointments. What possible accomplishments could persuade the Appointments Boards that these people were suitable candidates?
It would be pleasure beyond measure to consider some facet of present and recent political processes and be able to say " My word, that was well done !" ... but, nothing ! , just a continuing emphasis on self-seeking indifference to any but the 'in crowd' with carefully orchestrated flurries of exhortation or misdirection of blame.
"Smile - it could be worse ... I smiled, and it was worse"
As a simpleton , never involved in business, I have to wonder at the very basic level of competence displayed in this appalling tragedy. If, Heaven forbid, I were to be head of any business which, coincident with the introduction of new software found itself suffering a sudden enormous increase in apparent illegal activity, I would hope to do better than this bunch of oxygen thieves. What were their qualifications for their appointments. What possible accomplishments could persuade the Appointments Boards that these people were suitable candidates?
It would be pleasure beyond measure to consider some facet of present and recent political processes and be able to say " My word, that was well done !" ... but, nothing ! , just a continuing emphasis on self-seeking indifference to any but the 'in crowd' with carefully orchestrated flurries of exhortation or misdirection of blame.
"Smile - it could be worse ... I smiled, and it was worse"
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This sorry saga is a national disgrace. To make it worse, the CEO Vennel was a MINISTER?
One might say “God works in mysterious ways”, but this outrageous.
Seeing that Vennel retains her position at Morrison’s, I will make a point of shopping elsewhere.
I’ve always avoided the Anglican Church for other reasons, so no change there.
One might say “God works in mysterious ways”, but this outrageous.
Seeing that Vennel retains her position at Morrison’s, I will make a point of shopping elsewhere.
I’ve always avoided the Anglican Church for other reasons, so no change there.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I hope those jailed get millions out of this.
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Am I right in saying the PO was privatised by a Labour goverrnent?
In my opinion (not trying to be funny) I bet it's all a ploy by the PO to avoid paying redundancy payments to the hundreds o PO workers sacked when their branches closed.
In my opinion (not trying to be funny) I bet it's all a ploy by the PO to avoid paying redundancy payments to the hundreds o PO workers sacked when their branches closed.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Am I right in saying the PO was privatised by a Labour goverrnent?
In my opinion (not trying to be funny) I bet it's all a ploy by the PO to avoid paying redundancy payments to the hundreds o PO workers sacked when their branches closed.
In my opinion (not trying to be funny) I bet it's all a ploy by the PO to avoid paying redundancy payments to the hundreds o PO workers sacked when their branches closed.
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Originally Posted by renfrew
How did the numbers reach 700 without someone somewhere asking questions?
I just don't understand how this could have happened.
I just don't understand how this could have happened.
It's horrific....
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Very good and detailed serialisation of the whole affair:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000jfyv
Shocking was also the complete failure of the union to represent the members. The only concern was to protect “the brand”
Didn’t some twits want to call it Concordia in a rebranding or something? Guess the extent to which Brits identify with the PO as a national institution was lost on them. What a seriously nasty and collusive lot the senior execs and middle managers must be.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000jfyv
Shocking was also the complete failure of the union to represent the members. The only concern was to protect “the brand”
Didn’t some twits want to call it Concordia in a rebranding or something? Guess the extent to which Brits identify with the PO as a national institution was lost on them. What a seriously nasty and collusive lot the senior execs and middle managers must be.
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Originally Posted by wiggy
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This sorry saga is a national disgrace. To make it worse, the CEO Vennel was a MINISTER?
One might say “God works in mysterious ways”, but this outrageous.
Seeing that Vennel retains her position at Morrison’s, I will make a point of shopping elsewhere.
I’ve always avoided the Anglican Church for other reasons, so no change there.
One might say “God works in mysterious ways”, but this outrageous.
Seeing that Vennel retains her position at Morrison’s, I will make a point of shopping elsewhere.
I’ve always avoided the Anglican Church for other reasons, so no change there.
