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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 12:06
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Heads should roll at The Post Office

... but of course they won't.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 12:15
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39 have had their convictions quashed but there were over 700 victims.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 12:20
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The craziest thing it seems to me - having listened to a number of interviews with "victims" - is that in many (all?) cases, the Post Office and the Postmasters Association apparently claimed that an individual's problems were unique. And there were (that we know of) 700+ of them. Life ruined and I believe a number of suicides.......

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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 12:52
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Originally Posted by k3k3 View Post
39 have had their convictions quashed but there were over 700 victims.
And 555 have already had their claims settled by the Post Office.

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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 12:57
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Another outsourced IT scandal. And yet Fujitsu are still being given government contracts that fail (Private Eye p.94)

As above, each of these victims never knew that this was a widespread issue and were faced with their own single battle against the Post Office with its powerful legal team.

Of course heads should roll, if they haven't already retired, but this and some money will be little compensation for the ruined lives and families. This should be as big a scandal as Grenfell Tower.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 13:01
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anyone care to bring me up to speed on this one?
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 13:03
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Convicted Post Office workers have names cleared
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 13:03
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Well as SA has already mentioned Fujitsu, and IT, and "Private Eye ", this narrows the field down to the former CEO who didn't exactly emerge penniless. .....truly, the Lord moves in mysterious ways at times...

Post Office’s aggressive pursuit of staff casts shadow over ex-boss’s tenure | Post Office | The Guardian
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 13:29
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DR UK - those responsible, certainly the Big Cheese, have moved on to further well-remunerated positions.
As a simpleton , never involved in business, I have to wonder at the very basic level of competence displayed in this appalling tragedy. If, Heaven forbid, I were to be head of any business which, coincident with the introduction of new software found itself suffering a sudden enormous increase in apparent illegal activity, I would hope to do better than this bunch of oxygen thieves. What were their qualifications for their appointments. What possible accomplishments could persuade the Appointments Boards that these people were suitable candidates?
It would be pleasure beyond measure to consider some facet of present and recent political processes and be able to say " My word, that was well done !" ... but, nothing ! , just a continuing emphasis on self-seeking indifference to any but the 'in crowd' with carefully orchestrated flurries of exhortation or misdirection of blame.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 13:56
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How did the numbers reach 700 without someone somewhere asking questions?
I just don't understand how this could have happened.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 14:01
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renfrew - these places depend on their process, not on logic.
Once the process said "pass to Legal", that was it.
I bet their lwyers just followed their process too.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 14:08
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This sorry saga is a national disgrace. To make it worse, the CEO Vennel was a MINISTER?

One might say “God works in mysterious ways”, but this outrageous.

Seeing that Vennel retains her position at Morrison’s, I will make a point of shopping elsewhere.

I’ve always avoided the Anglican Church for other reasons, so no change there.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 14:12
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I hope those jailed get millions out of this.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 14:14
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I hope those jailed get millions out of this.
Trouble is, all that will mean is the price of stamps going up again!
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 14:27
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Am I right in saying the PO was privatised by a Labour goverrnent?
In my opinion (not trying to be funny) I bet it's all a ploy by the PO to avoid paying redundancy payments to the hundreds o PO workers sacked when their branches closed.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 14:54
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Am I right in saying the PO was privatised by a Labour goverrnent?
In my opinion (not trying to be funny) I bet it's all a ploy by the PO to avoid paying redundancy payments to the hundreds o PO workers sacked when their branches closed.
Actually prosecuting innocent post masters so that they are sentenced to jail terms is hardly a ploy!
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 14:56
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How did the numbers reach 700 without someone somewhere asking questions?
I just don't understand how this could have happened.
Private Eye PDF 6 page explainer - Free download

It's horrific....
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 15:03
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Very good and detailed serialisation of the whole affair:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000jfyv

Shocking was also the complete failure of the union to represent the members. The only concern was to protect “the brand”

Didn’t some twits want to call it Concordia in a rebranding or something? Guess the extent to which Brits identify with the PO as a national institution was lost on them. What a seriously nasty and collusive lot the senior execs and middle managers must be.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 15:06
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And has been ongoing for years. The PO agreed a settlement “without liability”. Even confronted with all the injustices that are now coming out in the mainstream, they just couldn’t bring themselves to fix a terrible wrong.
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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 16:50
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This sorry saga is a national disgrace. To make it worse, the CEO Vennel was a MINISTER?

One might say “God works in mysterious ways”, but this outrageous.

Seeing that Vennel retains her position at Morrison’s, I will make a point of shopping elsewhere.

I’ve always avoided the Anglican Church for other reasons, so no change there.
The fact that someone is 'employed' in a formal capacity ON EARTH by a religious organisation to 'lead their followers' has never meant that they were exemplary in all aspects. It's dangerous to make the assumption that they are or were ....
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