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Old 13th Apr 2021, 18:36
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ream-home.html

Fancy buying a house next to a busy road and not realising it would be noisy.

And then wanting the speed limits reduced. It's nearly as bad as those who buy a house under a flight path...
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 19:05
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Originally Posted by Saintsman View Post
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ream-home.html

Fancy buying a house next to a busy road and not realising it would be noisy.

And then wanting the speed limits reduced. It's nearly as bad as those who buy a house under a flight path...
They haven't asked for the planes to fly below a speed of 100kts have they?
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 19:18
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In the 1980s a new development was built along the extended centreline of the old 18/36 grass runway at Luton Airport. It was built right up to the airport perimeter. The airport authority then started to receive noise complaints from residents of this new development, specifically the light aircraft taking off on 36.

The airport authority made the flying club, Luton Flight Training, aware of these complaints and eventually banned the use of runway 36 by one of the club's aircraft, the Rockwell Commander AC114 because it was deemed too noisy.

Some time later I was at a party in Luton and chatting to a girl who had bought a house on a new development. She moaned about the airport noise. When asked if she had considered this before purchase she admitted that she hadn't.

These idiots are then pandered too,

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Old 13th Apr 2021, 19:29
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In 1966 I worked with someone who had a friend who owned some land at the end of Eastliegh Airport in Kenya. The airport wanted to purchase the land to extend the runway. This gentleman held out for more money. Eventually the airport bought the land at the opposite end of the runway. Land worth nil.😂
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 19:33
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I purchased my first home that was built in the center meridian of the highway. The only real problem was that I had to leave my driveway at 55 MPH
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 19:53
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Not the sharpest crayons in the tin are the McCormacks.

At the same time as wanting the speed limit reduced, she has a goal net in her back garden. Where a stray football over the fence bouncing around onto the road could send a swerving HGV through the fence and into her kitchen.
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 20:02
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I purchased my first home that was built in the center meridian of the highway. The only real problem was that I had to leave my driveway at 55 MPH
Reminds me of a farm in the middle of the M62 between Leeds and Manchester - I believe the owner refused to move?

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Reminds me of a farm in the middle of the M62 between Leeds and Manchester - I believe the owner refused to move?
Apparently so. A bizarre sight.
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 20:40
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Apparently so. A bizarre sight.
Ah, apparently not so... it seems it was down to a geological fault beneath the farm.
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 21:30
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There was a real estate agent who was peddling brand new houses near an small local airport who claimed that the houses were more than than three miles away from said airport, without bothering to mention that the mileage was based on using a car to drive there.

The problem that the new homeowners had was that the airport was far less than a mile away as the crow flies, so they tried to sue the sh*t out of the airport for being noisy.

Look at a map people, or at least spend more than sixty seconds inspecting the area before you commit a major amount of cash for a long term investment.
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 22:58
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In the late 70s, a developer bought land adjoining the air force base where student jet training was conducted. The developer came to the training school one day and said that he was having an open day that Saturday on the estate, and asked that the jets not fly, as it might deter the buyers.

We normally didn't train on weekends, but on that day we were rostered on to do as much circuit work as possible, especially low-level circuits over the development, which was under the downwind leg. We flew a lot of flights, but the development still flourished, and yes, the new residents complained about the noise.....
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Old 13th Apr 2021, 23:11
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A GA airport I know noticed an expensive new development going up in the next field so one of the committee went to the developer pretending to want to buy a house. When he asked about the aircraft noise he was told, "Oh don't worry, we are going to have that airport closed down."

Twenty years later the airport is thriving, and we get daily noise complaints. And we have had the lease extended by the council for another 20 years.

If you take a long view, each club should also be a developer, buying up the land around an airfield, using the asset base as collateral, and eventually developing it for light commercial.

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Old 14th Apr 2021, 01:40
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Court and DAN went to Luton because it was there. We blasted off day and night because we could. I stayed at my S-I-L's house a few nights which was just off the W centreline. 1-11's would make plaster come out of cracks in my bedroom wall.

Although I'd left by then, it seems hoards of Vauxhall workers arrived at the airport and explained that it was going to stop. That it WAS going to stop. I was at Gatwick when the night ban started and it was utterly uncanny at first.
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Probably about 2000 I was dragged to the Ideal Home exhibition in Olympia(?) and saw a Property Development Company selling plots well South of Maidstone. No intention of buying I went in (you'll see why) and was pounced on by some keen Sales guy who launched into extolling the virtues of the site etc, etc, etc. I asked a few of the usual questions and then, pointing out the river near by, enquired if there was any flood risk. By now, 2 other couples had joined me.

"Of course not Sir, there is no flooding in that area." - continuing in a rather how dare you suggest this manner - "We'd never sell land like that! We are, after all, a reputable Company!!!". Having advised him that, as a Flying Instructor, I flew over that exact area several times a day, day in, day out and that the whole area (and much more) had been under water for at least 3 months during the last Winter, instantly 2 other staff appeared. I was asked to leave and I was "walked out" the display by a "wall of 3" driving me ahead of them.

Both the other couples left rapidly as well. A few seconds later, one of the couples accosted me - "We really, really want to thank you so much!" they said "We have been in and out of there all day as it looked such a lovely location and we were about to put down a Deposit then and there!". I've just checked Google Maps and there is no development there but I wonder how many people had legal battles with that Company (if, indeed, it still existed) to get their money back. Thankfully, I saved one couple that grief!
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 11:03
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There is a castle, Earlshall Castle, just north of RAF Leuchars and inside the circuit pattern.

The previous owner, an old lady, died in 1982 and the property was put up for sale during the period the airfield was closed for runway renewal when the squadrons were bolt-holing from RAF Lossiemouth.

The property was bought by a retired army major and his wife. Then, a couple of months later, the F4s came home.....

It was rumoured he didn’t notice the runway at the bottom of his garden. I was an ops officer there in 1985, it was quite usual to receive several noise complaints a week.

I see the property is now up for sale again. Presumably it is much quieter these days.

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Old 14th Apr 2021, 12:04
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...... I was an ops officer there in 1985, it was quite usual to receive several noise complaints a week. .....
At HMS Daedalus (Lee-on-Solent) which, in its last years was very quiet even at "busy times", we had one old dear who regularly used to complain about aircraft noise.

One Sunday afternoon, she rang in and spoke to my then office-mate who was OOD. "Ah, young man, I wish to complain about the noise of the gliders!" "Ah, now is it the winch or the tugs which are disturbing you, Madam?". "Young man, I've told you it's the gliders I wish to complain about! I've no idea about these tugs or winches or whatever that you are talking about. It's those noisy gliders I'm complaining about and I want something done about it - now!!!!!". I believe he ambled over to the Gliding Club bus at the launch point, had a coffee and a chill in the sun and finally, as he left, asked the Duty Instructor if the gliders could please "swish" a bit more quietly!

He later pointed out the dent in the wall he'd created with his head after ringing off from the original phone call!!!
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 12:26
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Probably about 2000 I was dragged to the Ideal Home exhibition in Olympia(?) and saw a Property Development Company selling plots well South of Maidstone. No intention of buying I went in (you'll see why) and was pounced on by some keen Sales guy who launched into extolling the virtues of the site etc, etc, etc. I asked a few of the usual questions and then, pointing out the river near by, enquired if there was any flood risk. By now, 2 other couples had joined me.

"Of course not Sir, there is no flooding in that area." - continuing in a rather how dare you suggest this manner - "We'd never sell land like that! We are, after all, a reputable Company!!!". Having advised him that, as a Flying Instructor, I flew over that exact area several times a day, day in, day out and that the whole area (and much more) had been under water for at least 3 months during the last Winter, instantly 2 other staff appeared. I was asked to leave and I was "walked out" the display by a "wall of 3" driving me ahead of them.

Both the other couples left rapidly as well. A few seconds later, one of the couples accosted me - "We really, really want to thank you so much!" they said "We have been in and out of there all day as it looked such a lovely location and we were about to put down a Deposit then and there!". I've just checked Google Maps and there is no development there but I wonder how many people had legal battles with that Company (if, indeed, it still existed) to get their money back. Thankfully, I saved one couple that grief!
Have a look at what is being built at Shoreham right now!
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You have to be careful buying houses on country lanes as some are rat runs Monday to Friday but dead quiet at the weekends and during school hols. Best to have a look at 8:30 am on a weekday when the schools are in.
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 13:44
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I think it was DW that answered the phone to some farmer complaining about the noise our new helicopter ( Chinook ) was making and disturbing his animals, his response was well they better get used to it as this is the first of thirty and they're going to be around for the next thirty odd years.
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 13:45
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Didn't some crafty developer knock up some houses when one Scottish base was having the runway resurfaced and sold them to punters before the jets returned?
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