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Old 25th Mar 2021, 12:27
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might be a good live test of some Anti Ship missiles!
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 12:47
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Here's a suggestion for the mariners on board the thread.

It seems that the Ever Given pushed its bow into the bank using up most of its forward momentum, and the stern then swung round to contact the opposite bank. In that case the stern would not be as deeply buried as the bow.

Would it not be worth a try for the Maersk ship behind to put lines on the stern of the Given, and atttempt to pull it back a little?
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 12:50
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Call me old fashioned but before you start with the logisitics nightmare of offloading cargo, wouldn't it be easier to offload fuel?
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:04
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:06
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:14
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
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If that was aimed at me, I'm asking for a mariner's opinion, not presenting one.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:14
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Meanwhile the CEO of a team of Dutch experts brought in to help the rescue operation warned that the canal could be closed for 'weeks', with workers forced to unload cargo containers stacked some 100ft high on the ship's deck if attempts to dig it out fail.

Peter Berdowski, CEO of Dutch company Boskalis, compared the ship to 'an enormous beached whale' as he warned workers might have to start offloading cargo in order to reduce its weight and get it floating again.

'We can't exclude it might take weeks, depending on the situation,' he told Dutch media. 'It's an enormous weight on the sand. We might have to work with a combination of reducing the weight by removing containers, oil and water from the ship, tug boats and dredging of sand.'
If they're half-decent salvage crew they should be able to string this for at least a couple of weeks.... Kerching!
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:15
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A close up of the digger doing its job...



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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:21
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You're going to need a bigger digger! (the boat's big enough already...)
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:30
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Agree about using the Maersk behind to give the stern a damn good tug round. Probably the best bet at this point as it appears no one's thought to use actual tugs - about 6 should do it - with lines set to port stern cleats acroos the stern and f'wd port cleats.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:37
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Don't pretend to be a ship expert, but wouldn't the Maersk ship have too little excess power and a lack of manoeuvrability to be much use ?. Surely better to get some more and bigger tugs to join in with the half dozen eight already there .. They are built for excess power and manoeuvrability.

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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:56
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Ok - surely what they need to do is get a very large ship - spin in around and jam it in the mud so it sits across the canal completely blocking it to create a temporary dam downstream of MV Ever Given.

As the water rises the Ever Given will then refloat and errrr.....I'll get my coat.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 13:59
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
If that was aimed at me, I'm asking for a mariner's opinion, not presenting one.
Me too, fuel just seemed to be an easier way to lighten it.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:03
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Drop those massive anchors first, surely!
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:13
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:26
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Get a fleet of Chinooks to offload them onto lorries to be taken to the nearest container port for re-loading?
Something like that has been mentioned.

It would take a long time...
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:27
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I understand they are worried about bending/breaking the ship if they pull too hard!
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:31
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I understand they are worried about bending/breaking the ship if they pull too hard!
What? They think they know more than us experts here on JB?
Laughable, just laughable...

We could fill the emptied tanks with hydrogen!
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:32
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Originally Posted by Auxtank View Post
Agree about using the Maersk behind to give the stern a damn good tug round. Probably the best bet at this point as it appears no one's thought to use actual tugs - about 6 should do it - with lines set to port stern cleats acroos the stern and f'wd port cleats.
Yes yes but what knot should they use? Would a bowline suffice, or should they use a round turn and two half hitches? (I freely admit I'm fast approaching the envelope of my nautical knowledge...)
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:34
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Yes yes but what knot should they use? Would a bowline suffice, or should they use a round turn and two half hitches? (I freely admit I'm fast approaching the envelope of my nautical knowledge...)
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