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Old 25th Mar 2021, 03:57
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The CAMRA Real Ale Guide to the waterways did not explain how to get out of the situation...........
Was it use of the Real Ale Guide that got you into that situation?
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 05:26
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We have always found you can get out of these predicaments with appropriate use of the pole
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 07:07
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This is really, REALLY serious. It has impacted my beer supply.


For once in my life I took advantage of a promotional offer from a UK agent trying to get my business and offering free shipping on stuff from the UK. There was not much on their website except some very interesting beers, so I order a load of bottled real ales - black sheep, spitfire, hobgoblin etc. It was shipped 2 weeks ago and it's now suck at the entrance to the Suez canal with a raft of dozens of other ships https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9863326

. It will be many more weeks before it gets here and the beer will be very close to its sell-by date. Obviously forcing me to hold a party.

I'm sure I have your profound sympathy for this serious situation. Does anyone know how well such beers 'travel'?



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Old 25th Mar 2021, 07:21
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Originally Posted by double_barrel View Post
This is really, REALLY serious. It has impacted my beer supply.


For once in my life I took advantage of a promotional offer from a UK agent trying to get my business and offering free shipping on stuff from the UK. There was not much on their website except some very interesting beers, so I order a load of bottled real ales - black sheep, spitfire, hobgoblin etc. It was shipped 2 weeks ago and it's now suck at the entrance to the Suez canal with a raft of dozens of other ships https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9863326

. It will be many more weeks before it gets here and the beer will be very close to its sell-by date. Obviously forcing me to hold a party.

I'm sure I have your profound sympathy for this serious situation. Does anyone know how well such beers 'travel'?
Oh no. You have my sympathy. If i could, i would help you out with a special consignment of beer shipped 24h express to
you, but at the moment (actually for the last 12 months) i need all available beer and other alcohol-containing liquids for
myself.
Maybe, once the beer arrives, you can sort out a funeral party with your friends?
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 07:28
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Double barrel, it'll probably be OK!

One of my local Wetherspoons stocks bottled Tusker, so I bought a takeaway bottle as a "treat" for my brother when he visited from the US a couple of years ago - he was an enthusiastic drinker of the stuff when we lived in Nairobi. Either it doesn't travel that well or his tastes have changed in 50 years - he wasn't impressed!
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 07:29
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner View Post
He's high and dry and having a laugh. Pay peanuts, etc.
Per
My impression was that the vessel would be steered by locals called "pilots".
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 07:57
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Originally Posted by BDAttitude View Post
My impression was that the vessel would be steered by locals called "pilots".
Though who was at the helm is academic if, as reported, the ship had neither power nor steering.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 08:01
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Originally Posted by BDAttitude View Post
My impression was that the vessel would be steered by locals called "pilots".
Correct, Pilot comes from the Greek pēdon meaning "oar." Like an oar that steers a ship, a pilot steers or directs a plane.The original namesake for aviation pilots.

Marine Pilots board the ship and effectively take navigational control for the duration of the transit (but not command, that remains with the Master, perhaps a little like the Commander of an aircraft remaining PIC whilst the first officer performs the landing).
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 08:16
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Perhaps its a case for providing horses on the towpath once again. Worked well in the nineteenth century.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 08:18
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India Four Two. Guilty as charged !!!!
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 08:56
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Though who was at the helm is academic .........

If it was an academic at the helm, then that explains everything
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 08:58
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Originally Posted by ThorMos View Post
I thought i would never be able to write this:

'children of the magenta line'

hat, coat...
No, Airbus

"Children of the evergreen line"
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 09:28
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That digger, seriously? Jeez it'll take an eternity to dig that thing out.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 11:02
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If reports are correct - that it could be stuck for weeks - does anyone have any innovative suggestions for how to get it free more quickly?

No need for them to be remotely plausible or safe...

Stick a digger on top - and have it push containers into the water one at a time. To float away and lighten the ship?
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 11:13
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To float away and lighten the ship
A good idea if the containers were waterproof. Not only that the locals would empty them all within a couple of days.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 11:31
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Originally Posted by stagger View Post
does anyone have any innovative suggestions for how to get it free more quickly?

Stick a digger on top - and have it push containers into the water one at a time. To float away and lighten the ship?
Get a fleet of Chinooks to offload them onto lorries to be taken to the nearest container port for re-loading?

Or..hook up half a dozen of the awaiting vessels to the bow and stern and use their combined horsepower to dislodge the ship?
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 11:38
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How about a hydraulic pump to move the sediment from around/under the bow/keel area ? The type used to dredge rivers and build sand islands, such as in Dubai or gain extra land as with the new Hong Kong airport.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 11:41
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Originally Posted by double_barrel View Post
This is really, REALLY serious. It has impacted my beer supply.


For once in my life I took advantage of a promotional offer from a UK agent trying to get my business and offering free shipping on stuff from the UK. There was not much on their website except some very interesting beers, so I order a load of bottled real ales - black sheep, spitfire, hobgoblin etc. It was shipped 2 weeks ago and it's now suck at the entrance to the Suez canal with a raft of dozens of other ships https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9863326

. It will be many more weeks before it gets here and the beer will be very close to its sell-by date. Obviously forcing me to hold a party.

I'm sure I have your profound sympathy for this serious situation. Does anyone know how well such beers 'travel'?
It would be even more serious if your beer had been on the Ever Given. If General Average is declared (which it probably will be), cargo owners (as a party to the "maritime adventure") would have been responsible for a share in the costs arising from this incident .
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 11:44
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It just gets better...
Meanwhile the CEO of a team of Dutch experts brought in to help the rescue operation warned that the canal could be closed for 'weeks', with workers forced to unload cargo containers stacked some 100ft high on the ship's deck if attempts to dig it out fail.

Peter Berdowski, CEO of Dutch company Boskalis, compared the ship to 'an enormous beached whale' as he warned workers might have to start offloading cargo in order to reduce its weight and get it floating again.

'We can't exclude it might take weeks, depending on the situation,' he told Dutch media. 'It's an enormous weight on the sand. We might have to work with a combination of reducing the weight by removing containers, oil and water from the ship, tug boats and dredging of sand.'
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 11:48
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Originally Posted by Mariner9 View Post
It would be even more serious if your beer had been on the Ever Given. If General Average is declared (which it probably will be), cargo owners (as a party to the "maritime adventure") would have been responsible for a share in the costs arising from this incident .
If it was wine, one might be charged corkage...
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