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Old 21st Mar 2021, 10:16
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New claim about JFK assassinaton

Hope this isn't too off piste for this forum, but I've just been reading a snippet about a new book by an ex-CIA Chief who reckons/claims that Lee Harvey Oswald was acting under instructions fro the Kremlin (Kruschev is mentioned specifically) to assassinate John Kennedy?

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Old 21st Mar 2021, 10:40
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Assuming he in fact acted on instructions this could have triggered WW3 right away. This is why there would have been a political point of keeping it under wraps.
Being a former Marine and having honorably retired he "fled" to the Soviet Union, settled in Minsk, married and only then returned to the US. At least highly unusual. And he is said to have met some strange people:

https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ussr-kenn.../28819941.html
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Old 21st Mar 2021, 10:57
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Oswald was,as he claimed, just a 'patsy'
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Old 21st Mar 2021, 11:32
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Ted Cruz's father was in on it, too. Trump said so, so it must be true.🙄
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Old 21st Mar 2021, 11:53
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U-2 ops NAF Atsugi

Ummm I read somewhere that in 1956, a certain Marine stationed at NAF Atsugi walked up to the Soviet embassy in Tokyo and offered info on U-2 secret ops commencing in Japan. He was non other than LHO.

Anyhow after his USMC service (he trained as Airborne controller and ended up instructing enlisted and officers) ended in 59, he took a boat to Le Harve from states , came here and made his way to Helsinki then across to Minsk where he wanted to defect, claimed he was a Communist underneath etc etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Ha...d#Marine_Corps

Then things didn’t go as planned and he ended up back stateside and the rest is history.

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Old 21st Mar 2021, 11:59
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Look behind "The Bay of Pigs" and everyone who was involved in that. Amazing the same names keep appearing again and again through US history.

Guess not going along with the narrative of what the Deep State want, makes you an enemy.
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Old 21st Mar 2021, 15:18
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A further snippet in the Independent has it that the Kremlin changed their minds and instructed Oswald accordingly, however, he chose to press on. What I still don't understand is, the fatal shot does appear quite convincingly to come from the front? The one that blows the President's head off? Having seen what I believe to be correct images of the man lying on the mortician's table afterwards, there is a hole through the front of his neck, the face is fully formed. The back of his head appears to have suffered severe damage?

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Old 21st Mar 2021, 15:36
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy View Post
The back of his head appears to have suffered severe damage?

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Exit wound, entry from the front.

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Old 21st Mar 2021, 15:48
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Originally Posted by AnglianAV8R View Post
Exit wound, entry from the front.
Precisely Sir!

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Old 21st Mar 2021, 15:51
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Whatís always bothered me is that even if you make the argument towards recoil effect or jet effect to explain the backwards movement of Kennedyís head itís manifestly obvious that the shot that hits his head is a hollow point bullet (just see the results) but the bullet found on the stretcher was a full metal jacket round. That very simple and obvious fact alone leads you to the inescapable conclusion that Oswald wasnít firing shots alone on Dealey Plaza.
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Old 21st Mar 2021, 16:31
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Not a new claim. In fact, a very old claim.
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A fascinating subject.

Many years ago, there was a report that another bullet had lodged in Governor John Connally, but was too risky to remove. But that after his death, and this bullet examined and used as evidence, all would be revealed - it clearly wasn’t.

I think there’s something in the theory that the fatal shot that killed Kennedy might have been fired accidentally by one of his own security reacting to the initial gun retort. The authorities would never admit to such a calamity, even if it was a complete fluke, but would explain a lot of the unsatisfactory loose ends.
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So many theories on who shot JFK and was Oswald acting alone. Some think that Oswald was in cahoots with the mafia, another someone else fired the shot. I think this was a one way mission by Oswald to assassinate JFK!
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Old 21st Mar 2021, 19:22
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Originally Posted by BWSBoy6 View Post
I think thereís something in the theory that the fatal shot that killed Kennedy might have been fired accidentally by one of his own security reacting to the initial gun retort. The authorities would never admit to such a calamity, even if it was a complete fluke, but would explain a lot of the unsatisfactory loose ends.
Wow... This topic is bit of a pet peeve of me for many years but I had never come across that theory !

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Wow... This topic is bit of a pet peeve of me for many years but I had never come across that theory !
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...flna2D11634276


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that the shot that hits his head is a hollow point bullet (just see the results)
Or the results of a 5.56mm round from an AR15 at close range.
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I'm attracted to mysteries, 'odd stuff' and the challenge of rooting out disinformation. Remote viewing as practiced by The Farsight Institute offers all three.

Remote viewing purportedly began as a serious military intel operation in the US and likely also in the USSR. It has now escaped into the wild, in forms of varying credibility.

The Farsight Institute tackle the JFK assassination; trailers:



It would appear that Lee Harvey Oswald was indeed a patsy. Somehow I'm not surprised. Perhaps the gradual, controlled leakage of truth is having the intended effect?

According to the CIA, the best disinformation is about 90% true.
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 10:28
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Aaaaahhh, the 'single bullet theory'. Lots of people still, just buy into that !
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 12:10
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Originally Posted by John Marsh View Post
Remote viewing purportedly began as a serious military intel operation in the US and likely also in the USSR. It has now escaped into the wild, in forms of varying credibility.
Would you like to state within which upper and lower limits of credibility the concept of remote viewing actually lies?
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 14:31
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Originally Posted by BWSBoy6 View Post
A fascinating subject.

Many years ago, there was a report that another bullet had lodged in Governor John Connally, but was too risky to remove. But that after his death, and this bullet examined and used as evidence, all would be revealed - it clearly wasnít.

I think thereís something in the theory that the fatal shot that killed Kennedy might have been fired accidentally by one of his own security reacting to the initial gun retort. The authorities would never admit to such a calamity, even if it was a complete fluke, but would explain a lot of the unsatisfactory loose ends.
This has been advanced before and is perhaps one of the most believable if only because it is actually quite mundane. A Secret Service Agent in the vehicle in front responded to Oswald's inital shot. He grabbed the AR15 from the footwell (or wherever) then stood up, turned and braced himself ready to return fire at who ever was firing, the car he was in spurted forward and he lurched forward, facing the rear of the car. The jolt caused him to fire involuntarily. This, is thought to be the most likely if lousiest explanation for what happened. And of course it was the secret agent's bullet that was the fatal shot. Still doesn't dismiss the recent claim about Oswald, he could have simply let off his two rounds and failed to achieve his, and the Kremlin's, objective.

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