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Old 27th Mar 2021, 09:47
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Originally Posted by esa-aardvark View Post
If anything goes wrong it needs a lengthy reset procedure involving allan keys.
My late mum lived in a block of flats with quite an ongoing wrangle between the residents v the landlord. He had appointed and was paying one resident as his representative on site which was a stupid thing to do - she was very much not on the residents' side.

Anyway amongst the many complaints was a new exterior lighting system was installed at her behest - where were the three estimates that should have been provided for the residents to comment on? - and at least once a year subsequently the appointed electricians would arrive and replace all the neon tubes (about 40 or 50 I think) at the cost of several hundred pounds to the 27 flat owners per visit. I queried this at a residents' association meeting, why was it necessary to replace all the tubes; if one went, the gardening team who also did minor maintenance should replace the tube as they had done with the original lights.

"Oh it needs a special tool that only the electricians have and it's cheaper just to do the one visit to replace them all" replied Her Majesty. "Rot, it's a 3mm Allen key, I have several and in the unlikely event that the gardeners don't have one in their toolkit, I will gladly donate one of mine - and the tubes are £3 each in B&Q - a £30 outlay will see ample in stock for at least a year, probably longer..."

We got her deposed, landlord was also deposed as managing agent via Right to Manage legislation and we appointed a local estate agent who was, and I believe still is, running the block very well indeed.
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 10:27
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Her Indoors bought a Russell Hobbs whisk/chopper/mixer that consists of a motor with a bayonet connection for the three separate tools. The whisk would, if it hit a stiff bit, turn on the bayonet connection and the whole thing would writhe for a second or two before it fell apart.

Not happy but we did not have the receipt as she had bought it from Debenhams but I emailed off to RH and explained. They came back asking for the batch code on the side of the motor which I did. They sent a reply apologising and two days later a new one arrived at the door.

Must have been a problem with a certain batch because the new one feels different when you connect it..
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 17:15
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Mrs ZS has somehow partially stripped one of the two plastic drive gears from her Russell Hobbs mixer, (eating plastic again in the cakes). Does anyone know a site which might sell these parts or might Mr Hobbs send me a new gear if I ask politely.
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 10:15
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Try this.

Customer Service <[email protected]>


Tell them the story and they will ask you for the batch number on the plate. If it's less than two years then they could send you another one.
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 10:20
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Thanks, fingers crossed.
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 12:16
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Re washing machines, I have just been reminded of this brilliant guy:


Go to 31:00 ish to see his comments about modern things being easier to repair.
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 14:09
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Originally Posted by Uplinker View Post
Re washing machines, I have just been reminded of this brilliant guy:

https://youtu.be/SgWh-5DsiQM

Go to 31:00 ish to see his comments about modern things being easier to repair.
@ 10:11... ref the car stunt... Am I dreaming or he has not buckled his crash helmet???? He drives off with the two D rings visible!!!! Hope it was a dummy run and he had it fastened for the "real" stunt.... Kicked my own son's butt when he got home on his Bandit with his hard hat not secured once!
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 15:12
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Originally Posted by Uplinker View Post

Go to 31:00 ish to see his comments about modern things being easier to repair.

I'd agree about some things being easier to repair now - it's just so easy to find the parts, assuming they are available; which in many cases they are.

I've fixed my washing machine twice: Motor Brushes and Water inlet solenoid. Definitely cheaper than just buying a new one every time.

Coincidently the same machine's just developed another issue and perhaps I can use this list for some advice?

Over the last few weeks we gradually noticed a 'new' noise while spinning.

Turning the drum by hand produced an intermittent squeak.

I took the back off, hoping for a drive belt issue, though fearing it was the drum bearings (the machine is old enough for that). However, taking off the drive belt and turning things by hand showed the noise was from the motor.

I took the motor out (which I'd had to do before to replace the brushes) and found the noise was a gentle squeal from the rear motor bearing.

I can't feel any play or 'grumbling' when it turns so maybe it's just dry or got some dirt inside? I got some penetrating oil (WD40) into it and the noise has gone away but I'm not sure how long that's going to work for? I assume grease would be better but I can't see any way of getting that in.

At the moment then I'm up, because I've repaired the machine and it cost me nothing, but if the noise comes back I'm not sure what I'll do. I would probably have had a go at replacing drum bearings; mainly because a set of replacement bearings and seals is only about £40 and I'd be dead chuffed if I managed to fix it so the risk/reward ratio looks reasonable, but I think replacing a motor bearing is more than likely beyond my skills.

I could easily buy and fit a new motor but at £140 the economics are questionable.

Any other magic solutions for a squeaky motor bearing?

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Old 29th Mar 2021, 15:45
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Originally Posted by netstruggler View Post
I got some penetrating oil (WD40) into it and the noise has gone away but I'm not sure how long that's going to work for? I assume grease would be better but I can't see any way of getting that in.
I would definitely try to find a way to get some grease in, maybe under pressure ?

WD-40 is not really a lubricant (that's a direct quote from the WD-40 website).
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 15:55
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Any other magic solutions for a squeaky motor bearing?
I just put all the house bits with D&G (other company's are available) one quick call and its fixed or replaced. Easy Peasy.
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 19:46
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In the past I've put grease in bearings using a hypodermic needle (also in supposedly "sealed for life" car suspension / steering ball joints, injected through the rubber shroud).

If the motor bearing is "sealed" it might be possible to use a pick to pull out the flat seal to get some grease in, then push the seal back, they are usually just pressed into an inner groove in the outer bearing race.
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 21:27
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
In the past I've put grease in bearings using a hypodermic needle (also in supposedly "sealed for life" car suspension / steering ball joints, injected through the rubber shroud).

If the motor bearing is "sealed" it might be possible to use a pick to pull out the flat seal to get some grease in, then push the seal back, they are usually just pressed into an inner groove in the outer bearing race.
The hypodermic idea sounds like a good bet. I'm not sure there's a removeable seal - at least not on the outside.

It looks a bit like this...





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Old 30th Mar 2021, 10:20
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I had an idler pulley start squealing on my car engine. Pulled it off and could feel some roughness in the rotation of the bearing. I applied a bead of tranny fluid around the gaps of the inner and outer bearing races and let the oil settle in, then flipped it around and did the other side. Seems to have worked very well for the last few days.

I've purchased a new bearing and will press it into the pulley when I get time. The new bearing only has light oil around it so I may do the tranny fluid thing on it as well.

Years ago I refurbished my top loading washing machine - literally pulled it to bits and for a while was worried I wouldn't be able to put it all back together again. The gear housing that drove the drum was a sealed plastic unit that I couldn't figure out how to remove to drain the oil. So instead I drilled a hole in the case at the top near the shaft and drained out this hideous black muck which needed some kerosene to thin it out and clean properly. I refilled it with tranny oil and glued a bolt into the hole I made. I swear it spun quicker than before and lasted another 10 years.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 11:51
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Nice one.

Smart phone and tablet cameras are very helpful to take lots of photos before disassembling something complex. Much easier than labelling wires with tape etc.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 12:21
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Originally Posted by netstruggler View Post
The hypodermic idea sounds like a good bet. I'm not sure there's a removeable seal - at least not on the outside.

It looks a bit like this...

That type has a metal shroud which unfortunately can’t be removed without damaging it.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 16:44
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Shy,
perhaps a pressurisation chamber immersed in grease.
Not too cheap, but they do exist.
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 16:58
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A cheap and cheerful and quick but very effective way to grease such bearings.
This is with the bearing removed which is easiest but the same technique can be used in situ if one side of the bearing is accessible and you have the right sized tube.
Block the central hole with a piece of sponge rubber. Take a short length tube of a suitable size - I have bits of chemistry tube which, being relatively flexible, is ideal.
Put some grease in the tube and using a drill bit of a suitable fit as a piston, place the bearing on a flat surface and simply press the drill in gently.
Be careful not to force any dirt into the bearing nor to insert too much grease. Job done!



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Old 30th Mar 2021, 20:08
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We have a Samsung so called “Smart” TV. Again, ours needs a Wi-fi connection to become smart
Is it not possible to run an Ethernet cable to it. I think mine (LG) has both methods and wifi while a great invention, can also be a huge [email protected] ache
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 21:36
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Re washing machines, I have just been reminded of this brilliant guy:
"Carol you sweet dumb thing. Pull up your flaps; you're dragging"
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Old 30th Mar 2021, 22:33
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Originally Posted by cattletruck View Post
I applied a bead of tranny fluid around the gaps...
Brilliant! So glad we can still say things like this in a discursive forum without anyone being triggered ;-)
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