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Old 12th Mar 2021, 18:40
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Originally Posted by Geordie_Expat View Post
Of course you did, what a surprise.
Nothing if not predictable, or if you prefer consistent!
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Old 13th Mar 2021, 11:11
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Stuck in Spain, due to circumstances Son offered to forward form to me.
I declined, had I been there when the form arrived, or on census day, I'd
have done it. As it is the Spanish can count me.As I recall the law is (was)
you get counted where you were on census day.
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Old 16th Mar 2021, 15:34
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Originally Posted by esa-aardvark View Post
Stuck in Spain, due to circumstances. As I recall the law is (was)
you get counted where you were on census day.
No, thatís not quite right.

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Old 16th Mar 2021, 18:24
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Originally Posted by esa-aardvark View Post
As I recall the law is (was)
you get counted where you were on census day.
"You should include as living here:
  • everyone who usually lives here, even if they're away from home on Sunday 21 March 2021."
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 11:25
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I thought it was about time I made the effort with my input early this morning. I have to say I think it is not only tedious but bloody intrusive. "Who was your employer? What was their business?" What on earth does that have to with the price of fish?
esa-ardvark had a point. In the past, the census used to ask for the names of all the people who were in the house at midnight on census day. Now, it is a little more intricate
Looking back at some of my ancestors forms, I see entries such as:
"Name and Surname of each Person who abode in the house on the night of 30th March 1851" "Relation to Head of Family" "Condition" "Age of Males/Females" "Rank, Profession or Occupation" "Where Born".
And that was all they wanted.

I had to stop part way through my efforts this morning as, while I know what my son does for a living and even the rough location of his employer's head office, I don't remember the name of his employer's company.
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 12:31
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Yes but each member of the family can input their own details and hopefully your son knows the name of his employer.
There.. one less job / stress for you.
Only me and Mrs K in the household and we did it on separate days. No problem...
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 14:06
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Took me a good hour and ‘bloody intrusive’ is exactly what I kept muttering. I did not answer the question on gender identity, thankfully optional. That kind of information is intensely private.
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 15:23
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"And that was all they wanted." that's because each house was visited by a census worker - normally a teacher - who could read and write. If you look at the old records there are whole streets all the same handwriting - if they'd been asked all the questions we ask today then they'd have taken years............................
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 17:34
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Did a quick dummy run on our online version this afternoon.

Entering the 16 digit code that we received in the post addressed to 'The Householder' rather than my actual name nonetheless came up with our correct postal address.

In a moment of idle mischief-making I got to wondering what postal address would crop up if I entered random 16 digit codes! Somehow none of those I tried would work, instead getting a message to enter a valid code.

I rather fear however that some bloodyminded bureaucrat somewhere may have noted my idle mischief-making, has taken offence at my frivolous attitude and has set the wheels in motion so that a police cell is being readied right now for my imminent occupancy!

PPruners, I may be away for some time!!
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 17:53
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A Police Cell? My dear chap, it's probably nothing less than a Capital Offence!
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 18:18
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Originally Posted by Ant View Post
In a moment of idle mischief-making I got to wondering what postal address would crop up if I entered random 16 digit codes! Somehow none of those I tried would work, instead getting a message to enter a valid code.
Roughly 30 million households in the UK going to get counted in the census.

Number of possible 16-digit codes: 10,000,000,000,000,000 (10 quadrillion)

So you have a roughly 1 in 333 million chance of guessing a valid number. Good luck!
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 18:25
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we received in the post addressed to 'The Householder' rather than my actual name
Are we living in the same house then? That is how my letter was addressed!
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 18:51
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Still haven't got any letter. Beginning to think I don't exist.
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 19:46
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Did someone post something?

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Old 17th Mar 2021, 20:04
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Beginning to think I don't exist.
Sorry mate, we were all meaning to tell you this earlier but we somehow forgot! Thing is you see, erm well you don't actually exist at all really you see, and all your life experiences have been, well, em a figment of a non existant imagination. Oops, silly us for not saying earlier!

So you have a roughly 1 in 333 million chance of guessing a valid number. Good luck!
Right then lads. Here we go!!

I've got a crisp new tenner for the first person to enter a random 16 digit code on the census.gov.uk website and comes up with a real live address!

Could this address be a lonely shepherd's bothy in the Outer Hebrides maybe?
Or perhaps a coalminer's home in the valleys of South Wales?
An officeworkers flat in Ipswich or Belfast or Gloucester perhaps?
A trawlerman's cottage in Penzance perchance!
A Google streetview of the address would be good too!
So come on and spin that wheel.

As Bruce Forsyth would have said, "Good game, good game"!
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 21:46
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Originally Posted by Geordie_Expat View Post
Still haven't got any letter. Beginning to think I don't exist.
Location Aberdeen, so maybe next year?

https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/2022


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Old 17th Mar 2021, 22:25
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
Are we living in the same house then? That is how my letter was addressed!
That's because they don't know where anyone lives until they've filled in the form!
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Old 17th Mar 2021, 23:38
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
So you have a roughly 1 in 333 million chance of guessing a valid number. Good luck!
Correction - if the code contained only digits, as suggested, then those would be the odds.

But as I now see that they are alphanumeric, then that increases the odds of picking a valid code at random to about a gazillion to one.
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Old 18th Mar 2021, 19:04
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Originally Posted by spekesoftly View Post
Location Aberdeen, so maybe next year?

https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/2022
Ah, thanks for that. So it IS Sturgeon wanting to be different. Thought it was a UK Sensus.

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Old 18th Mar 2021, 20:38
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Originally Posted by Ant View Post
Sorry mate, we were all meaning to tell you this earlier but we somehow forgot! Thing is you see, erm well you don't actually exist at all really you see, and all your life experiences have been, well, em a figment of a non existant imagination. Oops, silly us for not saying earlier!



Right then lads. Here we go!!

I've got a crisp new tenner for the first person to enter a random 16 digit code on the census.gov.uk website and comes up with a real live address!


As Bruce Forsyth would have said, "Good game, good game"!
Might not be such a good idea if your IP address gets recorded with you trying to gain unauthorised access to the census website:
Computer Misuse Act 1990 (legislation.gov.uk)


1 Unauthorised access to computer material.

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if—

(a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer [F1, or to enable any such access to be secured] ;

(b) the access he intends to secure [F2, or to enable to be secured,] is unauthorised; and

(c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that that is the case.
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