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Old 1st Mar 2021, 07:27
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Originally Posted by Hokulea View Post
I can't recall any remake of a movie being better than the original. Obviously, the effects are better now but the script is usually much worse.
As others have mentioned - the Dunkirk remake was absolutely dire - from almost the very first scene where the young soldier steps through the front line straight on to the beach ,looking like he has just stepped out of clothing stores via a trendy hair salon.The script,storyline and acting was dire,the only laugh I got was the Spitfire pilot farting about at ultra low level saying ''I would give anything to climb higher but we have not got the fuel !'' (or words to that effect) and of course the magic spitfire scene with a glide angle far exceeding any really high performance glider (and still shooting down an a/c?) LOL.
We were soooo glad we did not have to pay to watch it,even the final scene was hilarious where they appeared to travel in a small boat from Dunkirk to Dorset
And also it was boring/tedious.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 07:35
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Casino Royale: David Niven or Daniel Craig?

Tricky choice.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 07:37
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Originally Posted by 57mm View Post
Neither did the Italian Job.....
Wasn't aware there had been a re-make until a few nights ago when it appeared on the TV listings....hence tuned in to watch.....another channel was rapidly selected.

"Dads Army " was another great example of why the original, and cast, remain so memorable and why no remake could ever hope to have the same effect.....which it didn't.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 07:50
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Originally Posted by India Four Two View Post
For me, it was seeing Jenny in Logan's Run.
Walkabout...

LW50 - a remake of Deep Throat? The Second Coming?
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 08:00
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Originally Posted by ford cortina View Post
Quite suprised no one has mentioned The Wicker Man, the less said about the remake the better.
Or even the Pink Panther!
Good spot! Nothing can ever replace or supersede Peter Sellers as Inspector Clouseau. I'm actually a fan of Steve Martin, he's made some wonderful movies, but can't believe he thought it was a good idea to involve himself in remakes of the Pink Panther films.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 08:14
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Originally Posted by Hokulea View Post
Good spot! Nothing can ever replace or supersede Peter Sellers as Inspector Clouseau. I'm actually a fan of Steve Martin, he's made some wonderful movies, but can't believe he thought it was a good idea to involve himself in remakes of the Pink Panther films.
Me too, I could not imagine a remake of The Jerk, or Planes Trains and Automobiles. Sad to see Steve did those films though, nearly as bad as his spot in Sgt Peppers Lonley Hearts Club Band.

But Little Shop of Horrors, the remake was much better than the original
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 09:12
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Another vote here for Jenny and the Railway Children and Walkabout. I also remember Charlotte Rampling and Susan George from that era, I can not remember why As for the Italian Job and Get Carter they are up there with the best, and should never have been remade. As for the Whicker Man I have only seen the original so could not comment, though from comments here I would not bother, but who plays Britt part though ? The Oceans films were ok to a degree IMHO but not as good as the original. As for the remake of Flight of The Phoenix ,another seat back view and glad I did not pay to see it. With regards to Dads Army I preferred the TV shows to either the original movies or indeed the remake, some how it worked better in the shorter format IMHO.

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Old 1st Mar 2021, 09:22
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Several years ago there was all sorts of talk about remaking the Dambusters movie. I remember it well because much of the discussion was about the name of Wing Commander Guy Gibson's dog. What happened? It seems the remake wasn't made in the end.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 09:29
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It was the director of the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit who was looking at it. However no US involvement in any part of the raid, so know doubt finance was not available, but as you say it has gone quiet.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 09:31
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Mr Mac - I agree with you about Dad's Army, the original movie was poor but the 30-minute episodes were superb and still are. Same thing with Porridge. The TV series was wonderfully funny but the movie just didn't work. It's like movie-makers just wanted to just more money by making a spin-off film and they just don't seem to work. Imagine Fawlty Towers as a movie - it won't work. However, having said that, John Cleese used the same type of character in Clockwise and think that's a fun movie to watch. But obviously it's not a remake.

PS. Many years ago the US did try and remake Fawlty Towers. I remember watching one episode. It didn't last long.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 09:34
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Originally Posted by Mr Mac View Post
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It was the director of the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit who was looking at it. However no US involvement in any part of the raid, so know doubt finance was not available, but as you say it has gone quiet.
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Thanks. Given the nature of this thread, it seems a good thing there was no remake!
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 09:56
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Talking of TV series, I believe someone remade Reginald Perrin - I couldn't possibly watch that, the same if any attempt was made to "clone" Yes Minister... Casting of both was absolute perfection - all characters, not just the stars.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 10:09
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The reason remakes are made is simply money when all is said and done, why is a many headed animal. Some are made due to laziness by studios who simply want to churn something out to keep all parties happy, knowing that with creative accounting there will be no effective loss, and perhaps a profit. Other times a pampered and influential Actor will be pushing a project to raise their profile and in the clusterf**l that is Hollywood politics it gets the go-ahead much to the fan's/audience's shock. Sometimes they get remade, as previously noted, to appeal to a wider audience who might not have 'got' the original version however brilliant, or made more contemporary to appeal to the younger market who might not relate at all to the 'ancient original'.

In the end they're just stories and parables weaved into various patterns and the version that came out at a specific time in our lives usually has the strongest bond in our hearts, taking us back in time to perhaps happier times for whatever reason.

Another vote for Jenny Agutter, I met her some years back and due to 'knowing' her from her early film work, couldn't have the conversation that I might have wanted to :-(
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We have three versions of the 39 Steps recorded. When I have read the book I'll see whether the pictures are better on the radio (alright in text).

In the meantime, there is Around the World in 80 Days, when I've read the book.

The Railway Children first film version (1970) was the best. I was 11 when I first saw it in 1970, Jenny Agutter did it for me being just a few years older than me...........

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Me too. and American Werewolf in London ( yeah, thread drift, it's not a remake ) is worth a watch !
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 10:18
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I reckon The Flight of the Phoenix remake was way better than the original. Controversial opinion no doubt.

Oh, and The Producers remake was excellent too (thanks to Mel Brooks' enormous talent), but still not as funny as the original.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 10:26
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Originally Posted by ex82watcher View Post
I don't know why the producers feel they have to remake on the big screen,when an original,definitive,version on the TV has been superlative.I cite two example,namely 'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy'
Have to disagree - the remake was superb. The closing sequence to the song 'La Mer' is pure cinematic genius.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 10:29
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Lucky man. I also remember seeing her in something on TV called the Snow Goose when I was much younger which I remember pulling at my heart strings.
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 10:30
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Originally Posted by dead_pan View Post
I reckon The Flight of the Phoenix remake was way better than the original. Controversial opinion no doubt.

Oh, and The Producers remake was excellent too (thanks to Mel Brooks' enormous talent), but still not as funny as the original.

Well at least the pilot survived in the remake. Paul Mantz died in the original when the Pheonix crashed, if you want to see the crash that killed him, it's on you tube

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Old 1st Mar 2021, 10:38
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
Talking of TV series, I believe someone remade Reginald Perrin - I couldn't possibly watch that, the same if any attempt was made to "clone" Yes Minister... Casting of both was absolute perfection - all characters, not just the stars.
Yes, it was called "Reginald Perrin" and Martin Clunes played the lead role. It's not as good as the original (how could it be?) but it's not bad and fun to watch. It was different enough from "The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin" that in my mind it's not a remake. Maybe a do-over would be a better description. But I agree with the description of the original series, the casting was superb and so was the plot. Leonard Rossiter in his role as Perrin was pure perfection.

PS. I just started to rewatch the remake and the canned laughter is a bit of an issue.

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Old 1st Mar 2021, 10:54
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Like the rest of you on here I did not think much of Dunkirk (2017)
However, interesting to note it had 8 Oscar nominations and won 3!

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