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Old 24th Feb 2021, 19:45
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Old 24th Feb 2021, 19:52
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Porsche do not slow production but, I am told by someone within a Porsche dealership, they control the number of cars entering the UK market.
If they are built to order, that would be very strange.
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Old 24th Feb 2021, 20:01
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Built to order probably but how do they stock the showrooms with demonstrators and stock?

They possibly deliberately process the orders with build dates scheduled months in advance. Are they so inundated with orders that currently a Cayman orderd today has a delivery date in October due to a) abundance of orders and no space in the schedule or b) scheduled months ahead to slow the flow of cars into the UK?

I really have no idea but I do love a good conspiracy......
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After reading this thread, and discovering all the associated costs associated with owning a Porsche, I'm quite pleased I bought a Fiesta, and spent the money I'd saved on drink and women.
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Well done, at least you were sensible and didn’t waste the money you’d saved.
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After reading this thread, and discovering all the associated costs associated with owning a Porsche, I'm quite pleased I bought a Fiesta, and spent the money I'd saved on drink and women.


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Old 25th Feb 2021, 11:16
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So where has that tiny bit against automatic cars gone to?
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 13:17
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Originally Posted by M.Mouse View Post
Built to order probably but how do they stock the showrooms with demonstrators and stock?

They possibly deliberately process the orders with build dates scheduled months in advance. Are they so inundated with orders that currently a Cayman orderd today has a delivery date in October due to a) abundance of orders and no space in the schedule or b) scheduled months ahead to slow the flow of cars into the UK?

I really have no idea but I do love a good conspiracy......
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The dealerships spec a car as a demonstrator, just like any other car company. They will have latest models, but will chose colours and add on bits. Most Porsche dealerships will have between 5-12 demo and indeed loan cars, depending on size. Lead times for Porsche have always been quite long if specking a car to your own requirements. It seems to vary as well with dealership. We have had one quote a 9 month wait, Porsche Leeds, and got the same car from Porsche Wilmslow at 4 months. Each dealership have their individual quotas I believe.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 13:32
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Built to order probably but how do they stock the showrooms with demonstrators and stock?
Dealers have to have demo models, so they order them with a spec that they believe is likely to be popular when it's time to sell: ditto stock for the buyer who isn't willing to wait
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 14:05
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We (to be precise not me) have a brand new BMW 118i that has been last week's handover. The bumpers are made of hard plastic and painted. You can imagine how long this will last. Designed to generate repair business.
I bet they create less "absolutely have to repair" damage than the old steel bumpers. They would bend and dent some part of the body with any knock. The ABS bumpers are a lot better imo.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 15:06
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan View Post
Dealers have to have demo models, so they order them with a spec that they believe is likely to be popular when it's time to sell: ditto stock for the buyer who isn't willing to wait
Do dealer have base models as demonstrators? I think they try to wow you with all the gizmos so that you think that they are must haves and add them to the order.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 15:34
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When ours go in they give us a loan car if we want. They vary, but usually a base model Boxster / 911 or larger 4X4 / Panamerica if that is what you want or indeed have. They normally have a few Toys on, though colours can sometimes be a bit garish, bright Yellow GTS sticks out in my memory. You do wonder who at the dealership chose the colour at times, but I presume they know their market.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 15:59
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bright Yellow GTS sticks out in my memory. You do wonder who at the dealership chose the colour at times, but I presume they know their market.
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It all goes back to CTR Yellowbird (which was color name Blutengelb)
Speed yellow is very sought after in used car market. My 986 though is only Pastell yellow, hence not so desirable but I like it. And never has an identical car drove next to me on traffic lights.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 16:16
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Do dealer have base models as demonstrators? I think they try to wow you with all the gizmos so that you think that they are must haves and add them to the order.
I would expect not, because - as you write- they want you to experience the delight of the add-ons, to both improve your driving experience to sell the car, and then also to order those extra expensive delights when looking at the options list. That apart , since very few Porsche owners would want a very low-spec model, that will be taken into account when ordering, with a view to its disposal. Every dealer is going to be using his knowledge of his customer base when ticking the options list.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 18:59
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I bought a 911 new many years ago (15) and still have it. I have been very happy with what for a Porsche is a very low spec vanilla model, if you can say such a thing about a 997. As I remember the specification process the big decisions came in 10,000 euro steps. First up was did you want the S model, which was a tad quicker. Fortunately I didn’t, because I know a few people who subsequently had expensive engine problems. Next up was a soft top, which is great for posing, but makes the car heavier to compensate for the stiffening provided by the roof. Last up is four wheel drive, definitely useful in winter. But mine lives in the garage in winter, so not really a necessity. The real downside of what is a brilliant piece of German engineering is the servicing cost if you go to the main dealers. Even an oil change inspection with nothing wrong costs thousands. Much too late I found a brilliant old guy who does it for less than half. Regarding color I can only say that when I picked mine up, most of the cars were black. It was a car on my bucket list and I expected a fair amount of negativity. Amazingly even my mother in law liked the car, enough said!
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 22:16
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BMW build to order. The last couple of BMWs I have bought did not take 9 months to be delivered from time of order. So Porsche are either a) inundated with orders or b) artificially slow the process down which is, effectively, what I have been told.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 23:32
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Could be worse. It, that is. Wayne selling a Le Ferrari for n $M found that when it was due on stage at Bonham's it wouldn't go. Not electrically, or petrolally. Nor could it be pushed. It sold from photographs based on the fact it was, at 3,700 miles, still under warranty. It went for a sum not far south of $4M.

A GT40, which had been purchased in dismal condition and restored, was beyond valuation. I think it was one of the three that got 1st 2nd 3rd LeMons one year. I supposed that means no one can buy it, and therefore valueless, because it would be too expensive. Daft old world.
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 07:34
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Look how quickly BMW build a car compared with Porsche (production line rather than team built) and the fact that Porsche do not have the number of factories that BMW have tells it all. Also I think I am correct in that about 18 months ago they shut one of the Porsche factories for re tooling or something so there maybe some back log as well.
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 20:46
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When you said 'team built' I thought that sounds a good reason that the build process is slower so I did a search but this video looks like a production line to me.

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Old 26th Feb 2021, 23:53
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Enduring memory of our first look inside the glass palace of Mclaren Mercedes. Surgical perfection on a white background. Four, or was it six men carrying the wiring harness in its rectangular form. I guess that was a team. It was a lot of wire.
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