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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 18:15
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Private number plate - new car.

Some advice needed please. My wife has signed up for a new car (Mini). It will be delivered in about 8 weeks. As a surprise birthday present I would like to buy her a personalised number plate for the car and I have identified a suitable one on the UK Governments website. My query is about timing. If I buy the number plate now on the website, does the number plate become my property more or less instantly and can I keep it to one side until the car arrives - in other words some sort of grace period - or do I have to fit it to the car straightaway?

I am thinking whilst it unlikely anyone else is likely to buy the number plate if I delay, perhaps I should buy it now and keep it to one side if I can?

I am also minded to let the dealer register the car with whatever plate the system allocates and then changeover the plate to the personalised one rather than get the dealer to register the car with the personalised plate to begin with. My thoughts here are that if I get the new car registered with the personalised number plate from the 'get go' when we eventually get rid of the car there would be no 'original' plate to re-register the car back to - which might cause additional work or complication?

Thoughts welcome.
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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 18:19
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Buy it and and you'll receive a certificate of retention. You can then wait as long as you like before you put it on the car. Likewise, of your want to sell the car but keep the plate you can put it back into another certificate.

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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 18:23
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Should you register a car with your personal number then when you sell it the DLVA will allocate it a registration that has the appropriate date numbers.

When you import a used car from overseas that will all get the appropriate date number.
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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 18:38
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I've bought new cars and had the private plate put on by the dealer. As above, the plate will come on a retention cert, hand that to the dealer and they should do it. It saves them money, too, as the retention certificate has a pre-paid registration fee.

Also, as above, the shadow number that the car will get when sold (but won't need to display) will just get re-allocated to the car when you choose to take the personal plate off to sell it. Nowadays the whole process can be done online, so it's very quick and easy. I was surprised at just how well the DVLA online system worked, for a government system it seems remarkably well designed.
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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 20:04
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Bought or leased? If the latter, you may need permission to change the registration.

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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 21:12
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Are you sure she won't get fed up with being poked fun at ?
Not everyone thinks it's a smart idea to be known as Y T RUMP (or D T RUMP for that matter) .
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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 22:56
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I would get cracking as these internet systems are prone to soft corruption (internal and external) and someone may be watching your searches and identify a chance to put themselves in an advantageous position.

I'm not from the UK, but VP's suggestion seems to be on the money. Purchase it and tell the dealer to stick it on the car when they acquire it.
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Old 3rd Feb 2021, 23:29
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I drove my used BMW 6 on the previous owner's plates. He was a friend of the dealer. It was a slight footle especially as I'd promised to take the private plates back, a drive of some 120 miles round trip. But, waddayaknow, I agreed to purchase a PC from a lady in Thorpe Bay. She was about two hundred yards from the dealer's home.

I've mentioned it before, but I wanted a fine Bolex MacroZoom Super 8 which I couldn't afford but then there was one in Exchange & Mart. Sigh, it was near LHR a 220 mile round trip. My mate, a keen movi-maker, said, I'm going to the next road tomorrow! I sold it to a film student of some sort for 300% decades later. Nice it was. Princess Grace had one.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 00:02
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post
Some advice needed please. My wife has signed up for a new car (Mini). It will be delivered in about 8 weeks. As a surprise birthday present I would like to buy her a personalised number plate for the car and I have identified a suitable one on the UK Governments website. My query is about timing. If I buy the number plate now on the website, does the number plate become my property more or less instantly and can I keep it to one side until the car arrives - in other words some sort of grace period - or do I have to fit it to the car straightaway?

I am thinking whilst it unlikely anyone else is likely to buy the number plate if I delay, perhaps I should buy it now and keep it to one side if I can?

I am also minded to let the dealer register the car with whatever plate the system allocates and then changeover the plate to the personalised one rather than get the dealer to register the car with the personalised plate to begin with. My thoughts here are that if I get the new car registered with the personalised number plate from the 'get go' when we eventually get rid of the car there would be no 'original' plate to re-register the car back to - which might cause additional work or complication?

Thoughts welcome.
W4NKA. Sorted. Fits the bill for the husband. Seen on a guys front plate in 2003. Present made by my fellow colleagues to his ego trip personal plate. His wife laughed and didn't tell him. He went up the wall when he found it. A week later the cops did him 25 quid for the italic illegal plate he had on his car that was the reason my mates had faked the alternate. Justice done!
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 01:13
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Wrap it up and hand it to her. "Happy Birthday!"
If she doesn't like it when she unwraps it, say "JOKE!" and hand her the 'real' birthday present that you have been keeping as Plan B.

(If she does like it, keep the Plan B present for Christmas or her next birthday.)
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 02:39
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Noooooooooo - Don't do it

Make your car as stock as possible. So plain that it becomes almost invisible

How many times have you been driving to work and seen a car with some body damage, or a bumper sticker or a personalised license plate and you think "I saw that car a few days ago". If it wasn't for the damage/sticker/plate, you wouldn't even have noticed it.

Maybe I've lived in gun totin' Texas for too long now, but I really don't want to stand out, don't want someone saying "There he is. Now where's my three fifty seven magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world etc etc"

Not that I would ever do anything to upset another driver of course, but I might have accidentally changed lanes right in front of him a few days earlier
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How about GR4NM4 for her? Might get you a night in the doghouse though.

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Old 4th Feb 2021, 09:32
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
Bought or leased? If the latter, you may need permission to change the registration.

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The car will be purchased on a PCP.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 09:34
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Originally Posted by osborne View Post
Are you sure she won't get fed up with being poked fun at ?
Not everyone thinks it's a smart idea to be known as Y T RUMP (or D T RUMP for that matter) .
Whilst a personalised number plate, it would not be obvious even to someone looking for any sort of personalisation.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 09:37
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Originally Posted by Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! View Post
Noooooooooo - Don't do it

Make your car as stock as possible. So plain that it becomes almost invisible

How many times have you been driving to work and seen a car with some body damage, or a bumper sticker or a personalised license plate and you think "I saw that car a few days ago". If it wasn't for the damage/sticker/plate, you wouldn't even have noticed it.

Maybe I've lived in gun totin' Texas for too long now, but I really don't want to stand out, don't want someone saying "There he is. Now where's my three fifty seven magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world etc etc"

Not that I would ever do anything to upset another driver of course, but I might have accidentally changed lanes right in front of him a few days earlier
As posted earlier, it would not be obvious to anyone that it was a personalised plate.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:02
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I've had a personalised plate for around 30 years now, and see absolutely nothing different between personalising a car like this and adding any other personal touches some make to their cars, from putting their favourite charity sticker in the window to giving it a custom paint job. Some get really wound up about personal plates, though, no idea why. Mine was free, got it in exchange for doing some paperwork for a colleague. Main advantage as I get older is that it's a lot easier to remember the registration number when it's needed for insurance or one of those car park ticket machines that needs it.

Only downside I've found with the plate is that it almost always gets misread by car parks with number plate recognition (particularly Southampton airport). It's a nuisance trying to find someone to manually lift the barrier, when you've paid for parking up front but the system reads the plate incorrectly and won't let you out.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:35
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They've always generated controversy....some are quite funny in fact, however, I go along with the psychologists who propose many carry them as being indicative of their personality....pretentious narcissus tossers obsessed with social standing .....albeit possibly not in those words.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:35
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
I've had a personalised plate for around 30 years now, and see absolutely nothing different between personalising a car like this and adding any other personal touches some make to their cars, from putting their favourite charity sticker in the window to giving it a custom paint job. Some get really wound up about personal plates, though, no idea why. Mine was free, got it in exchange for doing some paperwork for a colleague. Main advantage as I get older is that it's a lot easier to remember the registration number when it's needed for insurance or one of those car park ticket machines that needs it.

Only downside I've found with the plate is that it almost always gets misread by car parks with number plate recognition (particularly Southampton airport). It's a nuisance trying to find someone to manually lift the barrier, when you've paid for parking up front but the system reads the plate incorrectly and won't let you out.

Perhaps you are referring to number plates where people have altered the character spacing or position fixing screws in different colours or spacings to effect some sort of personalisation? The plate I hope to get would be ‘normal’ in all respects and I would see no reason for any ANPR to not recognise it.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:41
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I just did the same thing for my wife's new PCP car. I handed the retention certificate to the dealer, and the new car was resplendent with the new plate on the forecourt when we went to collect. V5C has just arrived with the new reg. as well.
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Old 4th Feb 2021, 10:42
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They've always generated controversy....some are quite funny in fact, however, I go along with the psychologists who propose many carry them as being indicative of their personality....pretentious narcissus tossers obsessed with social standing .....albeit possibly not in those words.
How does your post help with my query?
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