Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

Classic Car choice and why

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

Classic Car choice and why

Old 20th Jan 2021, 18:24
  #121 (permalink)  

Controversial, moi?
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 1,595
I too visited the Morgan factory a couple of years ago.

Great people, tremendous craftsmanship building good looking but actually quite appalling cars! They still seem to have a market so good luck to them.
M.Mouse is offline  
Old 20th Jan 2021, 22:23
  #122 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,230
If you buy a Morgan you won’t lose money on it, it might even appreciate in value. Something very few other car manufacturers can claim.
krismiler is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 08:17
  #123 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Southwold
Age: 69
Posts: 58
A point to bear in mind with owning classics long term though is that they will inevitably cost you, especially if you cannot do routine maintenance yourself. If you just park it up you will find brakes seizing up, sometimes clutches too. Recommissioned costs can be significant and don't rely on prices always going up. There is a preponderance of older people who are owners and it's open to question whether the following generations will have the same fondness for " old nags' as well as the funds. Already we are seeing thirties and forties cars declining in popularity, and hence value, as those who remember them hit the great garage in the sky.
Effluent Man is online now  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 08:30
  #124 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: England
Posts: 111
"If you buy a Morgan you won’t lose money on it, it might even appreciate in value."

Probably true and quite amazing seeing how ghastly they are to drive and with bodywork that you can stick your fingers in the gaps - and no boot!!

Get real and get a proper sports car!!



Georg1na is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 08:51
  #125 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Coasting South
Age: 66
Posts: 70
I was put off British sports cars by the type of cad who drove them in 1960s British comedy films. Think Leslie Phillips, (RIP and bless 'im), in flat cap, tweed jacket, cravat, brown brogues and those little leather gloves with the holes in the knuckles. Why the holes in the knuckles?

Another put off was when I ferried an MGB GT for a friend. Stiff steering, a concrete gearbox and no headroom. No thanks.
hiflymk3 is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 09:04
  #126 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Not where I want to be
Age: 67
Posts: 258
Originally Posted by hiflymk3 View Post
I was put off British sports cars by the type of cad who drove them in 1960s British comedy films. Think Leslie Phillips, (RIP and bless 'im), in flat cap, tweed jacket, cravat, brown brogues and those little leather gloves with the holes in the knuckles. Why the holes in the knuckles?

Another put off was when I ferried an MGB GT for a friend. Stiff steering, a concrete gearbox and no headroom. No thanks.
Holes in the knuckles to be able to bend your fingers since the leather was so stiff?
To allow sweat from trying to wrestle the damned thing through the bends to vaporise?
Per
Ancient Mariner is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 09:17
  #127 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Southwold
Age: 69
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by hiflymk3 View Post
I was put off British sports cars by the type of cad who drove them in 1960s British comedy films. Think Leslie Phillips, (RIP and bless 'im), in flat cap, tweed jacket, cravat, brown brogues and those little leather gloves with the holes in the knuckles. Why the holes in the knuckles?

Another put off was when I ferried an MGB GT for a friend. Stiff steering, a concrete gearbox and no headroom. No thanks.
An easy mistake to make regarding Mr. Phillips. Assuming he remains extant for a further three months he will be 97 on April 24. The roadster version has a lot more headroom!
Effluent Man is online now  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 09:38
  #128 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 11,517
The advantage of older cars is that fir most spares exist or can be easily replaced by the specialist companies which have sprung up.

That’s not true for the more exoensiv3 electronic boxes in later cars such as Mercedes where I’ve seen prices for replacement single boxes in the thousands of pounds. Watching shows such as Wheeler Dealers you see comments on th3 repair if cars worth £10K+ that, “if XX was broken then the car would b3 scrap as they aren’t available any more”.

I recall the episode on the Maserati 3200GT which was only repairable because if a garden shed operation where an individual had developed a means of opening up and modifying the electronic throttle body....

ORAC is online now  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 09:47
  #129 (permalink)  
Gnome de PPRuNe
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Too close to Croydon for comfort
Age: 57
Posts: 8,346
Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
An easy mistake to make regarding Mr. Phillips. Assuming he remains extant for a further three months he will be 97 on April 24.
Beat me to it! Ding Dong! Thread drift, he played an assistant in the ATC tower in "The Sound Barrier"...
treadigraph is online now  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 09:49
  #130 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Coasting South
Age: 66
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
An easy mistake to make regarding Mr. Phillips. Assuming he remains extant for a further three months he will be 97 on April 24. The roadster version has a lot more headroom!
Then apologies to Mr Phillips and "I saaay!" he did play those parts "raather" well.

Being described as a "keen motorist" is also a put off.
hiflymk3 is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 11:48
  #131 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 11,517
http://www.charlesphillips.com/index...roduct_id=1196






ORAC is online now  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 15:17
  #132 (permalink)  
Ant
even ants need some lovin'
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Kent, UK.
Posts: 148


Mention of classic British cars could hardly be complete without reference to the West Bromwich built Jensen Interceptor...
Gorgeous Italian styling, 440 cu in (7.2 L) of American Chrysler V8 muscle, and all the delights and features of British car manufacturing of the 1970's such as body panel and electrical problems.

Heard a story around 1976 from a New Zealand family friend of enterprising young Kiwis coming to the UK to buy up Interceptors in order to ship back to NZ and making big bucks profit.

Around 1974 as a teenager I first saw and fell in love with the Fiat 124 Sport Coupe. Had several styling revisions over the years (both me and the car!), some more attractive than others but all lovely.




Ant's dream... to slowly cruise down the boulevards in a red 124 Sport Coupe with me "Detroit leaning" and a leggy Swedish blond in the passenger's side!!

Well, I can dream, can't I??

Last edited by Ant; 21st Jan 2021 at 16:42.
Ant is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 15:47
  #133 (permalink)  

Controversial, moi?
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 1,595
The Fiat 124 Sports Coupe was indeed a lovely car in its day. I recall it rotted away while you admired it, like most cars of that era, except quicker!
M.Mouse is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 18:05
  #134 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Kelowna Wine Country
Posts: 448
My mother had a 124 Sport Coupe for a while. I think they rolled the steel out like Gold leaf because it appeared to weigh almost nothing. On the other hand it went round corners like nothing I had ever seen before. Quite a revelation after my MGB.

She bought it after selling the Mk 10 Jag to some New Zealanders who were taking it back to . . . . . . .!
ChrisVJ is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 18:11
  #135 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 24
This was my first attempt at a ‘modified’ car over 40yrs ago, the car started off as a 997cc Anglia, the mechanicals were basically Mk 1 Cortina GT which had been rear ended and written off. With the 1500GT engine not having a lot of bottom end strength unlike the 1600 cross flow I later modified the modifications were down to High Compression Pistons, skimmed head and twin 40DCOE’s, retained the lighter 997cc flywheel. Built for acceleration rather than top speed but that didn’t stop me from giving her ‘ a bit of welly’ down the then deserted Carnaby Airfield on numerous occasions. Bodywork wise, flared arches, Lotus wheels and mirrors the paint job I contracted out, 14 coats of RR Aubergine. Did have a slight problem with the engine when it failed to turn over one day although I could hear the whirring of the starter motor, had it in and out like a Fiddlers elbow checking the bendix, the problem turned out to be the ring gear slipping on the flywheel which were sweated on normally, I ended studding the ring gear to the flywheel with Allen screws. It was obviously a modified car and was insured as such unfortunately the Hot Hatchbacks were coming on stream and the insurance was jumping up in leaps and bounds which was why my next car the 1600E was rebuilt as a ‘Q’ car


tramontana is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 19:00
  #136 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 307
Facel Vega for me; a gorgeous marriage of French styling and American muscle......
57mm is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 19:56
  #137 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Southwold
Age: 69
Posts: 58
Albert Camus didn't like them!
Effluent Man is online now  
Old 21st Jan 2021, 23:04
  #138 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,230
Whilst not yet a classic, the Mazda MX5 would appeal as a decent alternative to a British two seater open top. All the pleasure of cruising down country lanes in summer with the hood down, but without the reliability and maintenance issues associated with an older car from a specialist manufacturer.

It wouldn’t have the same character as say, an MG or Lotus but a few more safety and comfort features, Japanese build quality and easy servicing would swing the balance. A decent selection of reasonably priced used ones is available, and they can be used as a daily driver rather than just a weekend toy.
krismiler is offline  
Old 22nd Jan 2021, 00:39
  #139 (permalink)  
Psychophysiological entity
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Tweet Rob_Benham Famous author. Well, slightly famous.
Age: 81
Posts: 4,936
Albert Camus didn't like them!
Well, he'd done everything by the age of 47, including a very youthful NOBEL. Lucky, they can't be awarded posthumously.

I can see why I was tempted by the ISO, though the FACEL certainly does have a magic about it.

Three grand, like new.

https://vintageracecar.com/1965-iso-...prettyPhoto/0/

Loose rivets is offline  
Old 22nd Jan 2021, 07:59
  #140 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Somewhere flat
Posts: 130
Originally Posted by krismiler View Post
Whilst not yet a classic, the Mazda MX5 would appeal as a decent alternative to a British two seater open top. All the pleasure of cruising down country lanes in summer with the hood down, but without the reliability and maintenance issues associated with an older car from a specialist manufacturer.

It wouldn’t have the same character as say, an MG or Lotus but a few more safety and comfort features, Japanese build quality and easy servicing would swing the balance. A decent selection of reasonably priced used ones is available, and they can be used as a daily driver rather than just a weekend toy.
Scotty Kilmer and his verdict on the new MX-5. [Requires lots of arm waving evidently].
goofer3 is online now  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.