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Old 11th Apr 2021, 08:25
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I' surprised that there's any roads in Devon or Cornwall where 89 mph is possible.

Note to self - find out next time I go.
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Old 11th Apr 2021, 16:16
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Probably somewhere on the A30, Bodmin bypass perhaps, or given the mileages quoted, maybe Redruth bypass.
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Old 11th Apr 2021, 20:33
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It depends on how fast you can accelerate... ;-)

then factor in the deceleration time needed to get it to stop
Do you think they bothered with that little detail?

They were taking part in a road safety campaign, which included preventing speeding, at the time.
LOL
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Old 11th Apr 2021, 20:43
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Word of warning - watch your speed on the recently dualled stretch of the A30 over Bodmin Moor (west of Jamaica Inn) if there's been heavy rain... don't know if it been improved since three years ago but the rain water was draining off the moor and straight across the carriageway - someone in a Mondeo found out the hard way, aquaplaning into the barriers, luckily with no injury to his family as far as we could see.
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 02:23
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https://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2020-01.html


In the end, cold was not the culprit.
(28 October 2019, Japan) "Hands are numb...but must operate smart phone," muttered 47-year-old Tedzu to his livestream audience as he skidded and stumbled up the snow-covered Shubashiri trail of Mount Fuji. "I wish I had brought heat packs," he lamented, and then he was heard to say, "Wait, I think I am slipping!"62 miles west of Tokyo, iconic Mount Fuji is one of Japan's three holy mountains, a 12,389-foot volcanic summit visited by religious pilgrims, mountain climbers, and sightseers. The trek is cold and slippery even during the brief summer season, when amenity stations are staffed and available for the benefit of climbers. In the off-season, the stations are closed and mountain conditions are downright hostile and inhospitable. A winter climber needs the proper gear, climbing experience, and a booster pack of common sense.

Tedzu, alas, lacked all three.
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 03:26
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It's a bumpy road back to the 'correct' thread.

Bump.
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 07:40
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Bumping again .
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 11:37
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Two men were killed after a Tesla car crashed into a tree and caught fire in Texas, and police believe there was nobody present in the driver's seat at the time of the accident. The 2019 Tesla Model S was travelling at a high speed when it failed to negotiate a curve on a winding road. The victims, both in their 50s, were found in the front passenger seat and in the back of the vehicle.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56799749
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 12:31
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Theoretically possible that the final eating position was a result of the impact and the pax not wearing seatbelts, though also possible that they were letting the car drive

The Hyundai Ioniq has hands free driving - or more accurately it has Lane Keep Assist that's linked into steering, so unlike my car that'll chime and show an annunciator light if I drift over a white line, the Ioniq will actually keep you physically centred in the lane. Having said that, the Ioniq also has a warning that appears if you don't keep your hands on the wheel

Now back to normal programming . . .
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 12:38
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Two men were killed after a Tesla car crashed into a tree and caught fire in Texas, and police believe there was nobody present in the driver's seat at the time of the accident. The 2019 Tesla Model S was travelling at a high speed when it failed to negotiate a curve on a winding road. The victims, both in their 50s, were found in the front passenger seat and in the back of the vehicle.
Irrespective of the circumstances of the accident it is most concerning that the image processing software and sensors, gps, etc allowed this to happen on 'autopilot" where such events I'd imagine have a target likelihood of one in a million (billion?) irrespective of idiocy. In fact, arguably, no driver in the driving seat is relatively immaterial - this may well be an underlying inference fault in the convolutional network I'd imagine is employed in the architecture. It does rather question some assumptions about safety if the vehicle was in a managed mode.
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Old 19th Apr 2021, 13:29
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While a lot of the non-local coverage of the Texas Tesla crash has highlighted the apparently driverless aspect, local coverage here has actually been more focused on the fact that the car burned so enthusiastically it took firefighters FOUR HOURS and some 32,000 gallons of water to extinguish the blaze. Perhaps it would have been better to bring ARFF from IAH (not so far from the site) to douse the thing with foam.

I hope the powers that be are looking into why it burned so intensely. This one didn't occur that close to any occupied structures, but if something similar had happened in a crowded area it could have been quite different.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 05:39
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A suspected poacher fleeing rangers in South Africa was trampled to death after he ran into a herd of elephants.
The man and his two accomplices were being pursued by aerial and canine units at Kruger National Park when the grisly death occurred on Saturday.
"One of the suspects was arrested following assistance from the Airwing and K9 unit," South African National Parks said in a statement.
"The suspect informed the rangers that the group had run into a herd of elephants and was not sure if his accomplice had managed to escape."

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person !!
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 10:26
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Lemmings. If you can’t beat them, join them.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 13:12
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If my 10 year old car can tell me if there is someone in the passenger seat for purposes of the airbag, I am sure it is but a matter of a moment to rejig the Tesla software to stop the car if there is no human in the driver's seat.

But to make things idiot proof you need to think like an idiot, and I assume that idiotic thought processes are in short supply in the design departments of a high technology industry like Tesla.

I am sure that particular Darwinism will not happen again when it is designed out, but someone will find another way to kill themselves in a technology that is way beyond their intellect and education.

so it goes...
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 13:47
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If my 10 year old car can tell me if there is someone in the passenger seat for purposes of the airbag, I am sure it is but a matter of a moment to rejig the Tesla software to stop the car if there is no human in the driver's seat.
A really good point that never occured to me, would be trivial to implement so interested to hear any reason it hasn't been.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 14:00
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Originally Posted by flash8 View Post
Irrespective of the circumstances of the accident it is most concerning that the image processing software and sensors, gps, etc allowed this to happen on 'autopilot" where such events I'd imagine have a target likelihood of one in a million (billion?) irrespective of idiocy. In fact, arguably, no driver in the driving seat is relatively immaterial - this may well be an underlying inference fault in the convolutional network I'd imagine is employed in the architecture. It does rather question some assumptions about safety if the vehicle was in a managed mode.
Is it wise to put so much trust into something like that? I have a number of apps on my phone, most of them quite simple, but every day I get notice of a software update for at least one of them. If the software engineers can’t get them right, then something as complex as a car autopilot is going to be quite challenging.

Then again, if someone is so stupid as to not sit in the driving seat, then they deserve their Darwin Award...

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Old 20th Apr 2021, 14:13
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So someone drove a Tesla ... well didn't drive a Tesla I suppose from the back seat

I've seen film on youtube of people driving their car by sitting in the open window and steering with their feet! And judging by the audio track this was filmed by a random road user, not one of his mates
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 17:19
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Have Madness rewritten the lyrics to their song yet?

I've been riding in my car
I installed a nice front seat bar
It finds its way down to the gym
While I enjoy an ice cold gin

While coming home I have a beer
And watch Jezza on a old Top Gear
It parks itself when we arrive
I like that I can drink and drive
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 18:44
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Interestingly my Tesla Model S does know when I am in the driving seat.

I hate to admit it but one morning I switched the car on and engaged 'D' (Drive, which is engaged by moving an indicator type stalk). It is necessary to apply the footbrake to engage drive. I have my car set to creep forward when I release the footbrake (it can be set to not creep forward until the accelerator is depressed).

Having done all of this I realised I needed something from the garage, opened the door and got out. The car immediately started moving once my foot came off the footbrake but the moment my weight came off the seat the car stopped dead.

It would appear that this feature, which prevented me from coming to harm due to my momentary stupidity, is not tied up to the autopilot in a similar way.

I find the Tesla 'Autopilot' on my 4 year old car quite clever but totally unpredictable. It keeps lane and accelerates/decelerates nicely on a motorway. Even then it can be spooked by other vehicles, bridges and the like and will momentarily apply hard braking before changing its mind. On lesser roads it can become very confused by white line or kerb changes. Admittedly mine is not the so-called 'Full Self-driving Capablity' version autopilot. I use mine in heavy motorway traffic but do not trust it entirely and rarely use it otherwise.

In my view we are a long, long way from reliable, foolproof self-driving cars.
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Old 20th Apr 2021, 21:06
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Cars have been able to detect whether someone is in the front seat without their seatbelt on for over forty years now.

I know because, way back when, our sixty-pound dog liked to sit in the front seat of our new car and would set of the alarm until the dealer cheerfully unplugged the link to the seat belt alarm.

However if should be simple to connect that information to the autopilot (which Tesla says was off) or the accelerator, so, very good suggestion.
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