Beast from the East?
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Originally Posted by ORAC
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Originally Posted by ORAC
I have always hated war films that do not take war seriously, this being one of them. However if you can get past that and look at it as a comedy, film it is quite good, mainly down to the actors in it, but I would never watch it again.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
If you go back to the first page you will note that it was a long range forecast for the middle of January through February based on the stratospheric warming starting to take place over the Arctic.
Lo and behold......
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weath...-UK-heavy-snow
Heavy snow forecast: Snowstorms to hit UK as weather system moves in from Arctic
Bitter -13C easterly winds will sweep the nation through the coming days amid warnings to expect no speedy end to the cold snap.
Long-range outlooks warn a major freeze driven by warming of the stratosphere above the North Pole could grip the UK within days......
Lo and behold......
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weath...-UK-heavy-snow
Heavy snow forecast: Snowstorms to hit UK as weather system moves in from Arctic
Bitter -13C easterly winds will sweep the nation through the coming days amid warnings to expect no speedy end to the cold snap.
Long-range outlooks warn a major freeze driven by warming of the stratosphere above the North Pole could grip the UK within days......
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Don't do it!
Originally Posted by Mr Mac
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We do the same thing, it would be just good if they fitted them as standard in the first place when new. As for 4WD driving we get too much practice in some winters in Yorkshire with Range Rovers, Audi, BMW, Volvo products over the years. Works well going up hill but going down on snow covered ice you are just a big toboggan, and I have done some winter driving courses over the years as well as defensive driving courses !
In Munich I have a Golf GTI and as you maybe aware we have to put Winter tyres on in winter. But you are correct I would recommend Four Season in the UK even if just the front or rear depending on drive train.
Cheers
Mr Mac
We do the same thing, it would be just good if they fitted them as standard in the first place when new. As for 4WD driving we get too much practice in some winters in Yorkshire with Range Rovers, Audi, BMW, Volvo products over the years. Works well going up hill but going down on snow covered ice you are just a big toboggan, and I have done some winter driving courses over the years as well as defensive driving courses !
In Munich I have a Golf GTI and as you maybe aware we have to put Winter tyres on in winter. But you are correct I would recommend Four Season in the UK even if just the front or rear depending on drive train.
Cheers
Mr Mac
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Must all be DM readers....
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...soon-nq96329gs
Beast from the East II could strike Britain soon
The UK could shiver through another “Beast from the East” snowstorm after scientists predicted an imminent stratospheric warming over the North Pole.
A study by experts at the Universities of Bristol, Exeter and Bath shows that dramatic meteorological changes unfolding above the North Pole could have severe consequences for the jet stream — and weather in the UK in the coming weeks.
Weather forecasting models are predicting with increasing confidence that a sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) event will take place this week........
The latest study, published in the Journal of Geophysical Research and funded by the Natural Environment Research Council, involved the analysis of 40 SSW events over the past 60 years.
Dr Richard Hall, lead author of the study, said there was an increased chance of extreme cold and snow over the next week or two. “Today’s SSW is potentially the most dangerous kind,” he said.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...soon-nq96329gs
Beast from the East II could strike Britain soon
The UK could shiver through another “Beast from the East” snowstorm after scientists predicted an imminent stratospheric warming over the North Pole.
A study by experts at the Universities of Bristol, Exeter and Bath shows that dramatic meteorological changes unfolding above the North Pole could have severe consequences for the jet stream — and weather in the UK in the coming weeks.
Weather forecasting models are predicting with increasing confidence that a sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) event will take place this week........
The latest study, published in the Journal of Geophysical Research and funded by the Natural Environment Research Council, involved the analysis of 40 SSW events over the past 60 years.
Dr Richard Hall, lead author of the study, said there was an increased chance of extreme cold and snow over the next week or two. “Today’s SSW is potentially the most dangerous kind,” he said.
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I just ventured down to Tesco in miserable rain and noticed cars parked along the road with a little snow on top. Some vehicles coming into Purley from the Banstead and Brighton directions had up to an inch on the roof, presumably people living up on the Downs (isn't that an oxymoron?). So the rotten stuff is about in the Home Counties and I shan't be surprised to see more in the coming month...
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...aval-pq2v23rk8
Storm bomb may result in pushing the polar vortex into a big upheaval
The stratosphere got in the news this week when it went into convulsions. In the bitterly cold, dark Arctic winter a vortex of winds races around the stratosphere, keeping the cold polar air penned into the Arctic. But now these winds 30km high have weakened, gone into reverse, the temperature of the stratosphere has soared over the North Pole and the polar vortex may split in two.
This phenomenon is called a sudden stratospheric warming and the upheaval may eventually sink into our weather in the lower atmosphere over the coming weeks. There the jet stream can be pushed off course and allow bitterly cold air to flood down from Siberia on easterly winds — hence the notorious Beast from the East.
However, the threat of a big freeze is not guaranteed, with a roughly 70 per cent chance of happening......
Storm bomb may result in pushing the polar vortex into a big upheaval
The stratosphere got in the news this week when it went into convulsions. In the bitterly cold, dark Arctic winter a vortex of winds races around the stratosphere, keeping the cold polar air penned into the Arctic. But now these winds 30km high have weakened, gone into reverse, the temperature of the stratosphere has soared over the North Pole and the polar vortex may split in two.
This phenomenon is called a sudden stratospheric warming and the upheaval may eventually sink into our weather in the lower atmosphere over the coming weeks. There the jet stream can be pushed off course and allow bitterly cold air to flood down from Siberia on easterly winds — hence the notorious Beast from the East.
However, the threat of a big freeze is not guaranteed, with a roughly 70 per cent chance of happening......
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https://english.elpais.com/spanish_n...condition.html
Storm Filomena paralyzes Madrid, leaving the Spanish capital immobilized and in a critical condition
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-spain-in-snow
At least three people die in Spain's worst snowstorm in 50 years
Storm Filomena paralyzes Madrid, leaving the Spanish capital immobilized and in a critical condition
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-spain-in-snow
At least three people die in Spain's worst snowstorm in 50 years
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Ahem, the Met Hoffice is possibly being a shade coy here.....end of Jan-beginning of Feb from their website..
" Confidence for this period is low, though there is a signal for weaker than average westerly winds with Atlantic systems likely to track further south than normal. Therefore, for the north of the UK it is expected to be drier than normal with temperatures around average to a little below. Further south there is an increased chance of unsettled conditions, with above average precipitation and with temperatures slightly above average. Through this period there is a greater than average chance of cold spells across the UK with the associated risk of wintry hazards. There is potential at times for significant snowfall on the boundary between milder and colder air masses, with greatest risk across central and northern areas.
Updated: 04:00 (UTC) on Sun 10 Jan 2021"
On the other hand, it's always entertaining to watch those who buy 4 WD vehicles as status symbols, blissfully unaware of. and incapable of using, the 4 WD for what it was intended for, slipping ignominiously into ditches, hedges and other vehicles
" Confidence for this period is low, though there is a signal for weaker than average westerly winds with Atlantic systems likely to track further south than normal. Therefore, for the north of the UK it is expected to be drier than normal with temperatures around average to a little below. Further south there is an increased chance of unsettled conditions, with above average precipitation and with temperatures slightly above average. Through this period there is a greater than average chance of cold spells across the UK with the associated risk of wintry hazards. There is potential at times for significant snowfall on the boundary between milder and colder air masses, with greatest risk across central and northern areas.
Updated: 04:00 (UTC) on Sun 10 Jan 2021"
On the other hand, it's always entertaining to watch those who buy 4 WD vehicles as status symbols, blissfully unaware of. and incapable of using, the 4 WD for what it was intended for, slipping ignominiously into ditches, hedges and other vehicles
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Originally Posted by BFM
Please never mix summer, winter or all season tyres. It is extremely dangerous and all tyre manufacturers warn against it. It's likely to be illegal too.
As you say the manufacturers do say that you should never mix winter / four season / summer tyres, I am not sure it is illegal but is not advised. Somehow Nationwide did manage to fit two to the front of my car without any comment to that effect. It does now have a full set of Four Season,s and has got me around in the UK through the recent snow events with no issue. My wife,s "road roller size " 21in Four Season tyre,s are still in Italy with Pirelli, and not due until the end of this month due to "shipping issues". I wonder why that maybe ?
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I had to get some M+S tyres for the Disco when we went to Switzerland for a ski trip a few years ago. Worked a treat they did. I did carry chains "just in case" and fortunately not needed.
I get them put on late Nov/Dec when the temps drop in the UK and take them off again around late March/April. They are coming to the end of their effective life and I am unsure if I'll replace them.
I probably will. No point in having a very capable 4WD if I am not going to use decent tyres.
The rest of the time I run so called all season tyres but when I compare the grip in cold wet conditions, they don't compare. They too are coming to the end of their effective life and so I'll replace them in a few month's time.
Yes, decent tyres are expensive but a lot cheaper than an accident.
I get them put on late Nov/Dec when the temps drop in the UK and take them off again around late March/April. They are coming to the end of their effective life and I am unsure if I'll replace them.
I probably will. No point in having a very capable 4WD if I am not going to use decent tyres.
The rest of the time I run so called all season tyres but when I compare the grip in cold wet conditions, they don't compare. They too are coming to the end of their effective life and so I'll replace them in a few month's time.
Yes, decent tyres are expensive but a lot cheaper than an accident.
