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Old 28th Oct 2020, 22:25
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English Language Hamsterwheel

At the suggestion of ATNotts I thought it worthwhile to start a thread dedicated to the usage of the English language. Errors we notice, aspects that we like, pitfalls, etc. Simply anything and everything to do with what is the closest the world has come to a universal tongue.

I admit to being a nerd in this regard as I have always enjoyed having errors, many I am most likely making myself, pointed out.

I'll serve with two: One runs the gauntlet but throws down the gantlet--from the French for glove/gloves les gants. I admit this is a battle long since lost however.

Second: One is a staunch supporter but a doctor stanches the bleeding.

Ball is now in your court. Limitations of the derivative use of the language aside, American cousins are welcome 😂

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I really wish people would learn the difference between jealousy and envy. So many people use the term jealous when in fact they mean envious. Another lost battle I fear.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 22:36
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I really wish people would learn the difference between jealousy and envy. So many people use the term jealous when in fact they mean envious. Another lost battle I fear.
Indeed, I have the expectation that many posts on this thread will be mourning linguistic battles that have, sadly, been long lost.

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Old 28th Oct 2020, 22:40
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How about "A chest of draws"?
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Uncle Fred, we are truly two nations divided by a common language! As you, I wither at the current state of our shared methodology of verbal communication. I find the intrusion of Rap, commonly known stateside as "Bronese" to be particularly repugnant. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy.

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Old 28th Oct 2020, 23:27
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Dear Uncle Fred and ATNotts

What a good idea .... and sorry to flag up a problem 'tout de suite' (toot sweet?)

start a thread dedicated to soley to
should this not read 'start a thread solely dedicated to'

Concerned but with respect,

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Originally Posted by Alsacienne View Post
should this not read 'start a thread solely dedicated to'

Concerned but with respect,

A froggy friend
Yes, there was definitely something fishy about that.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 23:38
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Originally Posted by Alsacienne View Post
Dear Uncle Fred and ATNotts

What a good idea .... and sorry to flag up a problem 'tout de suite' (toot sweet?)



should this not read 'start a thread solely dedicated to'

Concerned but with respect,

A froggy friend
Fixed by deleting that part. Many thanks for the proofreading. I was speeding as I crafted that initial post.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 23:47
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You're most welcome .... now that lockdown (which the French call 'Confinement'!!!) is on my horizon, I've far too much time on my hands! xxxx
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Old 29th Oct 2020, 00:15
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A few lost battles:

Between you and I. No idea why offenders think there is something wrong with "between you and me".

I was sat here (I think that the last rites have already been read over "sitting" in this context. See also stood/standing).

Us British are always talking about the weather. Are us? We grammar pedants hate that one.
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Old 29th Oct 2020, 00:25
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A bee in my bonnet . . . mainly because I overuse ellipses. Three dots with spaces, so seven keystrokes, unless your word processor does it for you. At the end of a sentence the closing " does not have a space before it.

In my book I use them to give a sense of timing . . . hoping the reader will hold their breath for a moment. Ideally, there would simply be more dots for longer pauses, so a great crisis could be conveyed by filling a page with dots.
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Old 29th Oct 2020, 00:34
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My personal bugbear.
Grammar pedants who bone on about split infinitives.
Nowt more than public school schnobbery.
Correct me if I am wrong, but in Latin you couldn't - whereas in English you can!
Part of wot makes it such an adaptable tongue...
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The English language is both heaven and hell; for native speakers there is little excuse for getting it wrong (colloquialisms, accents and local dialects when speaking like for like excepted) How dull would life be if everyone sounded the same everywhere?
Accents and useage of language are separate from each other by a long way.

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Old 29th Oct 2020, 01:51
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'Of' used incorrectly.

"I could of..."

It's, "I could have."
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Old 29th Oct 2020, 06:19
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Backflip. No, that still leaves you facing the original direction. How about "U-turn" or "about turn / about face".
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Time flies like an arrow.

Friut flies like a banana.

The word ‘scan’ has always struck me as strange; it can mean to look at something quickly, as in ‘scan the paper’, or it can mean to ‘examine intently’ in the way a MRI scanner would examine your body. Opposite meanings depending on context.

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Old 29th Oct 2020, 07:35
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Rapidly encroaching on good media dialogue:

"Me and him . . . . . . ."
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Backflip. No, that still leaves you facing the original direction. How about "U-turn" or "about turn / about face".
It's not that uncommon to hear those who are both literally and mathematically challenged (including the media) to report that "so-and-so did a 360 and headed off in the opposite direction".
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Originally Posted by BVRAAM View Post
'Of' used incorrectly.

"I could of..."

It's, "I could have."
This! Plus the confusion between 'their' and 'there'. Their (sic) is no excuse for a
native speaker to get this wrong...
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