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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 19:45
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 09:20
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"Unclear" - everything unknown in the media these days is "unclear". What the journalists mean is that they haven't a clue but don't quite want to admit as much.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 07:03
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Watching the alpine skiing it becomes increasingly irritating when one particular commentator (Nick Fellows - Eurosport) refers to competitors "going through the gears", and "using afterburners". I know that technology of ski equipment has moved on somewhat over the years but so far as I know they are still free running and devoid of either internal combustion or jet engines!!





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'New-cular' (i/o nuclear) is a bit of an irritant for me. It's widespread and not obvious (to me) exactly why. Is it particularly tricky to pronounce correctly? Is it because we sometimes refer to nuclear weapons as 'nukes'?
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 07:32
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'New-cular' (i/o nuclear) is a bit of an irritant for me. It's widespread and not obvious (to me) exactly why. Is it particularly tricky to pronounce correctly? Is it because we sometimes refer to nuclear weapons as 'nukes'?
On the subject of mispronunciation what really gets my goat, and it happens a great deal on factual TV programmes is the word "mischievous" (I actually spelled that corrected first time for once!!) which is pronounced "mis-cheev-e-ous". Why I can't fathom, the correct pronunciation is much simpler, then its a whole syllable less! Then the nation so beloved of football fans - "Ing-er-land"! Yuk!
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 07:41
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Me mum always used to say Ga-twick and Hea-throw - she would elongate the first vowels slightly. Never heard anyone else do that.

My sister talks about her rooksack. She doesn't mispronounce duck, luck, muck, tuck or (most frequently) f.
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 09:36
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My sister talks about her rooksack.
Probably coz that's the way the Germans pronounce it - "back bag". But she should turn the S into a Z to be correct.

The locals here call the D'Aguilar Highway the "Dee - AG - u-lar" when it looks like it should be "Da-GWEE-lah". I suppose they call D'Artagnan "Dee-ar- tag - nan" if they were to be consistent. Country hicks.
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Old 10th Mar 2022, 02:27
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if I were world king I would outlaw gonna in print. Why did we give up on going to? One more occurrence of gonna and I am going to scream.
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Old 10th Mar 2022, 06:57
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.... and Uncle Fred, please could 'wonna' and 'wanna' join 'gonna' in exile!
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Old 10th Mar 2022, 18:22
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.... and Uncle Fred, please could 'wonna' and 'wanna' join 'gonna' in exile!
Indeed. They are all loathsome. I concede that languages are not static, but the change toward acceptance of these miserable permutations is disheartening.
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Old 11th Mar 2022, 01:48
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I blame the Spice Girls ...
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Old 22nd Apr 2022, 23:29
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I was taught that when enumerating points one should say first, second, third, etc. This is the form I still use although I frequently see, and hear, secondy, thirdly, etc.

I know it is an exceedingly small point, but it makes me wonder if I have been wrong all these years. Perhaps my preference for the first, second, third, usage is it just sounds better to my ear.

Which sounds better to this readership?

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Old 23rd Apr 2022, 03:32
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 22:21
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On the BBC in the last 24 hours, the Epsom Derby has become “...the Derby at Epsom “
Along the same lines , a local village pub has gone from being the ‘Red Lion’ , in Farnsfield , to ‘The [email protected]”.
The pub name’s like a website.
Not to worry though , the majority of BBC announcers and presenters tell us it’s the “PlatNUM” jubilee.
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Old 5th Jun 2022, 20:40
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Originally Posted by Flugzeug A View Post
On the BBC in the last 24 hours, the Epsom Derby has become “...the Derby at Epsom “
Along the same lines , a local village pub has gone from being the ‘Red Lion’ , in Farnsfield , to ‘The [email protected]”.
The pub name’s like a website.
Not to worry though , the majority of BBC announcers and presenters tell us it’s the “PlatNUM” jubilee.
I noticed that as well. What umbrage was the staff taking with the Epsom Derby vice the Derby at Epsom. Are they being paid by the word and thus see need to pad it with 'of?'

Although that is overshadowed by the pronunciation of 'platNUM.' How in the blazes did they arrive upon that pronunciation?
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Old 5th Jun 2022, 20:54
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Although that is overshadowed by the pronunciation of 'platNUM.' How in the blazes did they arrive upon that pronunciation?
It should of course be "Platinium" to bring it into line with Aluminium (and many other metals), and further divide American and British English...
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Old 5th Jun 2022, 20:57
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fred View Post
I noticed that as well. What umbrage was the staff taking with the Epsom Derby vice the Derby at Epsom. Are they being paid by the word and thus see need to pad it with 'of?'

Although that is overshadowed by the pronunciation of 'platNUM.' How in the blazes did they arrive upon that pronunciation?
With pronunciation , I think it’s all transatlantic stuff being adopted by those wish to appear ‘hip’.
Our American cousins seem to struggle with ‘Nuclear’.
Along those lines , I give you ‘Booee’ for buoy and ‘Veehiicle’ for vehicle.
It’s the English language but the American version!
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Beeb's sports report on a sad event - "Welsh rider Mark Purslow died in a practice crash"
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Old 7th Jun 2022, 09:13
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Beeb's sports report on a sad event - "Welsh rider Mark Purslow died in a practice crash"
Clearly a better headline might have been "Mark Purslow dies in a crash during practice". However this is not unlike the headline a week or so ago on the BBC News website Business section "Missguided fashion brand collapses". Of course if they hadn't been "miss guided" then they might not have got into the mess in the first place! A better headline might have been "Fashion brand Missguided collapses".

Sadly BBC News appears to be moving more towards clickbait headlines these days; I know not why since the website is paid for by us as licence fee payers and doesn't require clicks to raise money. It must be just shoddy English from a news organisation that ought to do better.
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