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Old 15th Oct 2020, 21:08
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We have had a good bit of work done in Bangkok. Not implants but several root canals (more than Venice) and caps. Our first visit we had cleaning and whitening done at a big "Smile" place. Cheaper than Canada but still achunk of moola.

Second and third visits were to an Indian dentist whose car met us at the airport. They looked after us for root canals etc for most of the day and then delivered us to our hotel with temporary caps. Two weeks later we went back for the permanent crowns. Took a couple of hours for two of us and, I think, three crowns.

We chose the dentist by recommendation and I am sure we have his name somewhere. He had equipment I have not seen anywhere else though it was a little strange lying in the chair looking at the flock wall paper! I think the best dentist I have seen ever. I have a dislike of dentists since childhood as our dentist then did not believe kids should have anesthetic.

We saved enough to pay for the holiday including flights and hotels

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Old 15th Oct 2020, 22:23
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My first ones were a two implant 4 crown arch on the front 4 which is what the OP is asking about. I had a variety of crowns on post break or come out before I went that way so they had underlying infections and bone graft was needed. That was 5 or 6 months and even then bone was still a bit soft so implants were submerged (nothing sticking out) and the cap added after another 5 months or so and then a month to heal the gums before crowns could be fitted. It was more than a year and a lot of moola as you can imagine in S California. That was 7 years ago and it has been great. If you have had bridge for 20 years it is hard to see how you wouldnt also need a bone graft.

Since then I have been working may way through other 'goners' and in fact this week had two in a bone graft at the back where they have been missing for 20 years. I should have a full set touch wood for the first time in 40 years. They all have to be given time I think unless you have perfect bone in the first place. In terms of discomfort I would say
extraction 10 - by far and away the worst bit during and after
bone graft 4-6 (although still a 10 if it is with an extraction) depending on how much old bad stuff has to be scraped away
implants into bone graft 5 (there are still soft spots that have to be scraped out again if they have used screws in the big lumps of bone.
implant into your own healthy bone 2

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Old 15th Oct 2020, 22:50
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I'm reading through pretty scary stuff in some of these posts. Of course I need to finally discuss with dentist but the stuff I read on here prepares me better to sensibly discuss. Initial thoughts were that I am not keen to enter lengthy and maybe complex surgery and so far nothing has changed my mind.......thanks for input everyone.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 23:04
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Originally Posted by rifruffian View Post
I'm reading through pretty scary stuff in some of these posts. Of course I need to finally discuss with dentist but the stuff I read on here prepares me better to sensibly discuss. Initial thoughts were that I am not keen to enter lengthy and maybe complex surgery and so far nothing has changed my mind.......thanks for input everyone.
Seems a very sensible decision.
One of my last visits to a dentist was around 25 years ago, when he told me that unless I spent 10,000, I would not be able to eat in 5 years time. Guess what- still eating steak 25 years later, although I know I do need some work doing.
I seriously think that dentists are the modern equivalent of snake oil salesmen.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 09:08
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To some extent, I agree, and you do have to assess several practitioners to weed out the chancers. Dentistry is not brain surgery, but the prices are very high - owing to supply and demand. 7 years to become an orthodontist? And many procedures are not available at NHS dentists.

Moving teeth around involves fairly basic mechanics - given a suitable bias force, teeth will move in the jaw. All the nerves and blood vessels will also move with each tooth, and bone will alter and grow to allow tooth movement, and anchor the teeth when they are in their new position.

Having said that, things can go wrong. Infection and allergies can occur. Bone can waste away, with the patient blissfully unaware until things have got very bad, and then bone grafts are required. Gums can recede, teeth can become loose. For these reasons, you need someone with a good reputation and a lot of experience - it is not worth risking cheap dentistry just to save money - although, do shop around; I found half the cost (and twice the expertise) by going north within the UK. The guy I found was truly excellent; a real craftsman, but unfortunately for us he has retired.

As I say, you need to divide the cost of orthodontic treatment by the number of years you expect to benefit from it. Even only 10 years use means the procedure effectively costs just 10% of the total per year, which is not a lot given the advantages you will gain while eating three times a day, every day for the rest of your life.
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