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Old 13th Oct 2020, 21:05
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OP here. Thank you for that useful number of responses. There is certainly enough info in these replies to make me think twice . Of course major factors are the state of what currently remains in my mouth and the quality of my bone. I shall certainly bear in mind the experiences posted above, when I next consult with the dentist.

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Old 13th Oct 2020, 21:40
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You did not say whether it is upper or lower and whether there is any removal required.

Apparently the upper bone is a lot thinner than the lower and the implant (depending where) may impinge on the sinus cavity requiring quite a bit of extra work and time.

MrsVJ had an implant done in Mexico requiring two trips to ultra luxurious timeshare. The work, though, was excellent.
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Old 13th Oct 2020, 21:50
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It's upper front 4 tooth gap that has my attention right now but there are also other gaps in other areas. All in all, a bit dire.....

( Removals already completed)
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 01:54
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You have my sympathy.

About ten years ago a few of my teeth started splitting. "Huge" slabs would split off leaving a shallow hollowing with sometimes sharp edges. Eventually Mexican dentist pointed out that my molars were getting eaten out by decay from the underneath and offered to pull four of them and do implants for some huge sum of moola. ie, moola for molar.

Apart from one that absolutely had to be pulled I am still surviving.

MrsVj had a simply outstanding job done on her eyes a couple of years ago and believes that if these things look like they are going to happen sometime then one should get them done early so one enjoys the benefit for as long as possible. I, on the other hand, like to put things off as long as possible. If I go under the bus tomorrow then there will have been no need anyway! (It's really because I am such a coward!)
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 06:24
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I’ve had two implants, one of which required a bone graft. Very happy with the results, the procedure was relatively painless, the worst part was the grinding noise. As mentioned previously, the implant is very rigid and noticeably so on the lower front tooth when chewing. In the event of a slip, the tooth immediately above knows about it. This hasn’t been felt at all on the implant at the lower molar as these teeth are designed for heavy chewing.

It may not be necessary to have an implant for every missing tooth as a bridge can often be attached at either end. Unless you make your living by smiling at cameras, perfection and the high cost associated with it isn’t needed. At 80 years old a cheaper solution that improves your appearance and makes eating easier is all that you really need.

Typically, if an extraction is done there needs to be a break of around 3 months before the implant can be inserted, followed by another 3 month break before measuring and fitting a crown. Four appointments over at least six months. Longer time intervals aren’t a problem, and may be needed if a bone graft is involved.

Multiple, complicated implants would make using a dentist in Poland worthwhile, even with traveling costs.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 07:36
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I had both upper second molars and the third lower molar split several years ago - current dentist said my childhood dentist had done so much unnecessary drilling there was virtually nothing left to work with, teeth are now gone.

He said filling school kids teeth had been a money spinner for dentists in the 1970s as the NHS paid and they often took even the slightest sign of decay as an excuse to whip out the novocaine. I think my mum made me go each school holiday and I doubt there were many visits that didn't result in a filling or a refilling. I can imagine my old dentist aged about 70 and living the life of the idle rich back in his native New Zealand...

These days I try to avoid crunching hard food or eating toffees...
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 07:58
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I had hairline cracks in both teeth in the upper jaw one in from the back. When the first was removed it wasn't too bad. When the second came out - after a long tussle by the dentist - he suggested an implant as I'd lost a fair chunk of chewing surface which in turn would impact the other teeth over time.

Due to cost I had one side done. Drilling the hole for the post was uncomfortable, the replacement installation itself not too bad. Since then - 2015/16 I think - it's been solid, works well. I chose not to get the other one due to cost. All in about 2500 for the one.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 08:00
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
I had both upper second molars and the third lower molar split several years ago - current dentist said my childhood dentist had done so much unnecessary drilling there was virtually nothing left to work with, teeth are now gone.

He said filling school kids teeth had been a money spinner for dentists in the 1970s as the NHS paid and they often took even the slightest sign of decay as an excuse to whip out the novocaine. I think my mum made me go each school holiday and I doubt there were many visits that didn't result in a filling or a refilling. I can imagine my old dentist aged about 70 and living the life of the idle rich back in his native New Zealand...

These days I try to avoid crunching hard food or eating toffees...
That was my experience as well. No visit was made without a filling being necessary. My dentist had two surgeries, with a swing door between them. Whilst my pain killing injection was kicking in, he would dash next door to do a filling, then dash back to me to do mine. He must have made a fortune.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 09:20
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I would certainly shop around for corrective dental work, and have actual consultations by the best seeming 3 or 4 orthodontists, so you can assess the quality and ability of the practitioners.

I needed some dental work and found a big difference in UK prices between, say, Watford and Macclesfield - almost twice the price in the south.

I would also be wary of going abroad - if there is a subsequent problem, such as infection, or a bone problem, how are you going to get it sorted, and what is the legal situation? Quite apart from having to book flights and hotels; correction and compensation could be a difficult process.

A professional corrective procedure by a good operator can be expensive, but the price needs to be divided by the number of years you expect to benefit from the procedure to put it into context.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 09:53
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I have had two implants done in Budapest. Google Kreativ. Excellent results over several years, at half of the UK price - even after factoring in flights etc. They have a London clinic if needed - but at UK prices. PM me for my experience if you wish.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 12:42
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I get my dental work done in Bangkok, however I live in that region, have staff travel and go there anyway so the travel costs are accounted for. Do research on any dental clinic you plan on visiting, especially one abroad. In a foreign country I would look at one patronised by better off locals rather than one catering exclusively to foreigners.
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Old 14th Oct 2020, 13:03
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ah yes krismiler that is a shrewd idea.....
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 07:04
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Rifruffian, may I ask what is filling the gap at the moment? Is it a denture, plastic or cobalt chrome, or a bridge. At our age, over 70s, there is bound to be gum recession which might affect implants.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 09:56
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hullo DON T and here is brief history. The gap was filled around 20 years ago by a dentist in Spain. I understand that the bridge was fixed in place by attaching it to the remains of teeth upper front centre. As soon as uk dentist saw this Spanish construction she disapproved of it and wanted to remove it. I resisted and it has lasted until quite recently, when it collapsed off the attach points. So just recently the remains of teeth front upper centre were extracted. The gap is now meantime filled by a first fit plastic partial denture. The dentist said to me: 'well now just what do you have in mind ?'........at this moment I just do not know. I do know that the current denture is satisfactory cosmetically and useless for biting/ chewing. So I am examining all possible routes to follow and implant is one idea. That's where I am, with this, today.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 09:57
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Originally Posted by krismiler View Post
I get my dental work done in Bangkok, however I live in that region, have staff travel and go there anyway so the travel costs are accounted for. Do research on any dental clinic you plan on visiting, especially one abroad. In a foreign country I would look at one patronised by better off locals rather than one catering exclusively to foreigners.
This is very sound advise. I did the same for hospitals and very happy with my treatment (incl ops and associated chemo) over the years.

The dentist I also use is a good mix of affluent Thais and a few foreigners

The downside is language can be an issue with nursing and reception staff.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 13:19
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Originally Posted by rifruffian View Post
hullo DON T and here is brief history. The gap was filled around 20 years ago by a dentist in Spain. I understand that the bridge was fixed in place by attaching it to the remains of teeth upper front centre. As soon as uk dentist saw this Spanish construction she disapproved of it and wanted to remove it. I resisted and it has lasted until quite recently, when it collapsed off the attach points. So just recently the remains of teeth front upper centre were extracted. The gap is now meantime filled by a first fit plastic partial denture. The dentist said to me: 'well now just what do you have in mind ?'........at this moment I just do not know. I do know that the current denture is satisfactory cosmetically and useless for biting/ chewing. So I am examining all possible routes to follow and implant is one idea. That's where I am, with this, today.
If it were me I would go for a cobalt chrome denture.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 14:46
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Thanks for that suggestion; I shall look into it.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 14:59
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I too need some dental work done, but over the years, my gag reflex seems to have become so bad, that it is virtually impossible for a dentist to do more than have a very quick check of my teeth. The possibility of any work being done is nil.
Have any of you had any experience of sedation with regards to dental work? As I j understand it, my options are either "air and gas", or an intravenous drip. Any thoughts would be welcome, and I apologise for the tread drift, but as my query is still very much dental related, I hope the OP will not object.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 16:49
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My wife had implant work done under sedative, needed an anaesthetist in attendance.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 17:48
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I lost two front teeth in an RTA in 1978 and wore partial dentures for twelve years, looked OK but functionally close to useless, bite into a sandwich and the teeth would separate from the spoon shaped part, I never travelled without epoxy or superglue. In 1990 a Dutch dentist suggested implants, over the previous years the jaw bone had shrunk back so I needed to have the bone built up again, after that two holes were drilled and tapped in the bone and titanium roots screwed in, the roots had an inner thread that had a plastic(?) plug, then the gum was stitched up and we waited for everything to settle down for a few months, after this the gum was opened, plug removed, threaded post screwed in to the root and the crowns attached to the posts as would any normal crowns. Total time was about 8 to 9 months.

Everything was so new it was all done on Saturdays and filmed. Procedures have advanced since then and it all happens a bit quicker.

I have never had a moment of bother with the implants in this 30 years and consider it one of the best decisions I ever made.

The dentists name was Drs. Wim van Thoor.
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