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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 13:00
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With our "friends" in Europe, we have to find a way of dealing with this problem, that is fair to all, including the migrants.

The problem we have is that English is an almost universal language and many of the migrants especially the educated males, will speak some English. So from their point of view, the UK is the best option for them and why they do not want to stay in any of the other countries that pass through on their way to Calais. Not to mention our benefits system which supports them and the accommodation we house them in when they get here, which is a lot better than a tent in a camp in Calais.

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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 13:01
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I would imagine that ministers were simply presented with a list of local and international locations which met a series of required parameters and Ascension was on that list.

It clearly got a pencil drawn through it along with the Isle of Man, Skye, and Guernsey.

Journos are very adept at making you click on headlines.
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 14:51
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With our "friends" in Europe, we have to find a way of dealing with this problem, that is fair to all, including the migrants.

The problem we have is that English is an almost universal language and many of the migrants especially the educated males, will speak some English. So from their point of view, the UK is the best option for them and why they do not want to stay in any of the other countries that pass through on their way to Calais. Not to mention our benefits system which supports them and the accommodation we house them in when they get here, which is a lot better than a tent in a camp in Calais.

Their is it's called the Dublin agreement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation

Just one problem we are leaving the EU so it comes to a end when we leave
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 15:26
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I was vaguely aware that there was some sort of agreement on this but I hadn't realised that the key to who was responsible, was who had the migrants finger prints or where they made their first claim for asylum. So with no one wanting to take responsibility for them, they all kept their heads down and allowed the migrants to pass on to the next country, through the open borders, until they get to the UK.

With friends like them......
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 19:42
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With friends like them......
One reason for the Brexit vote.
A Union in name only.

Could bring the Chinese in to shovel out water in the Channel just beyond Ffrench territorial waters and build an island.
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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 20:55
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One reason for the Brexit vote.
Could bring the Chinese in to shovel out water in the Channel just beyond Ffrench territorial waters and build an island.
meadowrun best suggestion I've read on hear all day

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Old 2nd Oct 2020, 23:41
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This story reminds me of Gan, before it became a holiday destination of choice as part of the Maldives, and was still a place to avoid, or at least get away from as soon as possible.

During a longish Victor tanker detachment there in the 70s, the flight commander, becoming aware of increasing boredom among the chaps suggested to one of our co-pilots that he could organise some sports.

"I'd like to help, sir" came the reply, "but I'm already tied up on the escape committee".
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Old 4th Oct 2020, 11:32
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How come the U.K. government is getting pages of sh** for considering then rejecting this idea. But no word of criticism for other countries like Oz which actually do it?
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Old 4th Oct 2020, 14:58
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I would pick Barnsley. A sight so awful they wish they’d be back in Aleppo.

Compared to most Western European countries it is relatively easy to vanish into illegality in the UK. Besides that, other European nations take more refugees than the UK per capita.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 21:04
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The Tories well know that talking and (after many years) finally acting tough on immigration (of individuals of a certain persuasion) will do them no harm politically and may well be a selling point if it 'works" by next election.

Priti Patel is so vicious, that if she wore a black leather jacket (emblazoned with rank), jackboots and held a whip personally supervising the loading I'd not be too surprised - she well might relish that - nasty piece of work.

Longer term though with three or four years of Tory rule, from afar (from what I can judge) they really will turn the screws this time, although you can always reliably depend on the Tories to inflict misery no matter the circumstances.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 08:08
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The Tories well know that talking and (after many years) finally acting tough on immigration (of individuals of a certain persuasion) will do them no harm politically and may well be a selling point if it 'works" by next election.

Priti Patel is so vicious, that if she wore a black leather jacket (emblazoned with rank), jackboots and held a whip personally supervising the loading I'd not be too surprised - she well might relish that - nasty piece of work.

Longer term though with three or four years of Tory rule, from afar (from what I can judge) they really will turn the screws this time, although you can always reliably depend on the Tories to inflict misery no matter the circumstances.
Yep, the well known libertarian, Ms Patel, got an endorsement from Boris in fact in his recent speech......this extract verbatim from the Guardian.....and widely reported in many other MSM outlets.

" and stopping the whole criminal justice system from being hamstrung by what the home secretary would doubtless – and rightly – call the lefty human rights lawyers, and other do-gooders " ..

However, in her case, there's still the inconvenient matter, of a very prominent court case to be resolved, and a few questions that remain unanswered as to her alleged "managerial style "....so the dockside job you mention may be "paused " as they say.




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