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Old 29th Aug 2020, 19:43
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With all due respect to the departed and to his nearest and dearest, I really wonder how many people in the UK had ever heard of him, including younger generations. To make this the lead story must call into question the judgement of somebody in the BBC and his/her motives for promoting such a story.

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As a father to two young lads I can confirm he was well known to the younger generation as Black Panther.
He was a major and ascending Hollywood star and nobody ( general public) even knew he was ill, I think his passing deserves a spot in the headlines.
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 19:45
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Originally Posted by 2 sheds View Post
With all due respect to the departed and to his nearest and dearest, I really wonder how many people in the UK had ever heard of him, including younger generations. To make this the lead story must call into question the judgement of somebody in the BBC and his/her motives for promoting such a story.

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For plenty he will be an important figure - for example, Lewis Hamilton dedicated his pole position to him today.
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 20:10
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Originally Posted by BehindBlueEyes View Post
Any loss to any family is a tragedy, especially so relatively young, but I can’t help feeling the PC BBC are trying extra hard to give this actor as much coverage and publicity because of his ancestry as much as his contribution to the world of entertainment.
Anything remotely about race and you pop up. I swear progressives are living rent free in your head
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 20:22
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Originally Posted by 2 sheds View Post
With all due respect to the departed and to his nearest and dearest, I really wonder how many people in the UK had ever heard of him, including younger generations. To make this the lead story must call into question the judgement of somebody in the BBC and his/her motives for promoting such a story.

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Yet another BBC failing!
This must surely be the end of the licence fee.
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 21:33
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Yes, we are OFs and the world has moved on from under our feet.

My parents wouldn't have known who the Who or Led Zeppelin were, but I knew of some of the entertainers of their generation. (Although I did turn my father on to Frank Sinatra.) I had to explain to my sons who Dame Vera Lynne was when she died recently and what she meant to my parent's generation.

I'd never heard of Chadwick Boseman either but I'm sure a lot of the younger generation know him.

No problem with it being BBC headline news, it is the silly season. The way things are it seems like it's always the silly season.
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Old 29th Aug 2020, 23:37
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hiflymk3 the silly season used to be when parliament was in recess.

Nowadays it is the exact opposite!
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 00:52
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Yes you’re all old farts.

Going back on Jet Blast I counted all the “RIP” threads over the last 12 months. I came back with names like Peter Green, John Lewis, Jack Charlton, Vera Lynn, Ennio Morricone, Charlie Daniels, Honor Blackman, Marquis of Bath, Bill Withers, Eddie Large, Bernard Woolley, Neil Peart, Wayne Fontana, Sultan Qaboos, Neil Innes, David Bellamy, Clive James, Alexis Leonov, Ginger Baker....

I doubt very few people under 55 could tell you who any of them were or something notable they had done. Personally I had never heard of most, and the only one I could pinpoint was Honor Blackman, being a partial Bond fan, and all that was for was one supporting role in one movie almost 60 years ago. Hardly earth shattering.

I think what counted for the increased prominence of Boseman’s passing was he was quite relevant in popular culture now, had a huge cultural impact with his role as Black Panther, and his death was unexpected. You could say the same about James Dean who only had 3 lead roles in film before death but is still remembered 65 years later.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 01:08
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Whether we know who he was or not, it is very sad that a young man should contract and die of colorectal cancer at age 43.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 06:57
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Whether we know who he was or not, it is very sad that a young man should contract and die of colorectal cancer at age 43.
I could not agree more!
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 07:34
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If quoting a celebs opinions of world politics and current affairs is justified then surely reporting their death is an absolute necessity.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 07:52
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Yes you're old farts. I'm nearly 50 and despite not being a big fan of watching films, even I'd seen him in 2 films in the last few years. He was very well known, very popular, and at 43 he wasn't exactly in "Eeh, kids these days" moaning territory.

One of the most unbecoming traits of old age is that expression of smug satisfaction as someone proudly says "Who? Never heard of him!". They're actually proud of their ignorance! I think that reflects more on the gap in the moaners' awareness of the world around them than it does on the popularity of the deceased. It's a trait I hope never to adopt.

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Old 30th Aug 2020, 07:58
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Originally Posted by hiflymk3 View Post
Yes, we are OFs and the world has moved on from under our feet.

My parents wouldn't have known who the Who or Led Zeppelin were, but I knew of some of the entertainers of their generation. (Although I did turn my father on to Frank Sinatra.) I had to explain to my sons who Dame Vera Lynne was when she died recently and what she meant to my parent's generation.

I'd never heard of Chadwick Boseman either but I'm sure a lot of the younger generation know him.
When kids start to like the same music/films/art as their parents (or vice versa), alarm bells should ring.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 08:11
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Originally Posted by Laarbruch72 View Post
Yes you're old farts. I'm nearly 50 and despite not being a big fan of watching films, even I'd seen him in 2 films in the last few years. He was very well known, very popular, and at 43 he wasn't exactly in "Eeh, kids these days" moaning territory.

One of the most unbecoming traits of old age is that expression of smug satisfaction as someone proudly says "Who? Never heard of him!". They're actually proud of their ignorance! I think that reflects more on the gap in the moaners' awareness of the world around them than it does on the popularity of the deceased. It's a trait I hope never to adopt.
The thing about celebrity these days is the bar to attaining celebrity status has been lowered in recent years (I mean the last 20 or so years) to a point where people who are essentially "legends in their own lunchtimes" become "celebs" without having actually achieved that much. Moreover, with social media it's probably easier to raise your own profile than it was back before it had been invented.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 08:17
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'Tis the former AT, the former!

CG

*Big role in the DC Comic fillums, among others.
Actually Marvel Comic fillums, Marvel being an inferior 'copy' of 'DC Comics' which 'invented' Superman, Batman etc.
I too had never heard of this person; my wife and I always look at so called 'celebrity' shows on TV and wonder how the hell the people on them can be called celebrities.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 08:20
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Whether we know who he was or not, it is very sad that a young man should contract and die of colorectal cancer at age 43.
People die of it every day; why make such a fuss about a little known actor not only on BBC News but Sky News too?
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 08:29
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
People die of it every day; why make such a fuss about a little known actor not only on BBC News but Sky News too?
It's the same as when a member of the Royal Family goes into hospital with what is usually a pretty routine problem, or for an operation such as a hip replacement. Suddenly that condition or procedure becomes headline news, even though "the plebs" go through them on a regular basis.

Charles has tooth extracted = news story on what causes tooth decay!
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 08:37
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
People die of it every day; why make such a fuss about a little known actor not only on BBC News but Sky News too?
Little known to you that is.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 08:39
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
It's the same as when a member of the Royal Family goes into hospital with what is usually a pretty routine problem, or for an operation such as a hip replacement. Suddenly that condition or procedure becomes headline news, even though "the plebs" go through them on a regular basis.

Charles has tooth extracted = news story on what causes tooth decay!
Because the 'Royal Correspondent' and the 'Medical Correspondent' get their chance for a byline.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 09:08
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
The thing about celebrity these days is the bar to attaining celebrity status has been lowered in recent years (I mean the last 20 or so years) to a point where people who are essentially "legends in their own lunchtimes" become "celebs" without having actually achieved that much. Moreover, with social media it's probably easier to raise your own profile than it was back before it had been invented.
It's actually more than 50 years since the expression "famous for being famous" was coined.
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Old 30th Aug 2020, 10:45
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
People die of it every day; why make such a fuss about a little known actor not only on BBC News but Sky News too?
There are YouTube and TikTok stars with literally millions of followers who you (and I) have never heard of. At some point most of us have to accept we don't have our fingers firmly on the pulse of popular culture.

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