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When did the British public become so disgusting?

Old 27th Jun 2020, 22:40
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I'm as anti littering as the next person - I hate it, especially the bags of dog poo others have mentioned being left hanging on trees etc.

However, when the BBC news focused on piles of litter, much of it quite neatly 'bagged, all around a clearly full bin to illustrate the level of 'littering', I couldn't help think that what it illustrated more clearly was how people had tried to dispose of their rubbish thoughtfully, but there was insufficient bin provision and emptying / collection. Why else would the litter have been concentrated so obviously near to an overflowing bin? It clearly wasn't simply random dumping litter strewn all of the place. If Councils want less littering, better provision of bins and collection from them would be a great start.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 23:46
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Welcome to New Britain the 'Great' has well and truly gone!
At least it was "Great" once, unlike (Ooops ! can't say that ! )
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 23:55
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It's not long ago they were worshipping Greta and blaming the boomers for ruining the world.
Now it's garbage on the beach and a carpet of nitrous oxide capsules.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 23:55
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Originally Posted by Loose rivets View Post
I always linger on the Hogarth, but I can't understand what the bloke in the doorway is doing with the saw. Any ideas?

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I had to look real hard to find a guy hanging
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 06:47
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Well Iím glad itís not just me that gets riled up by it. I find it hard to believe these people grew up in the same Britain I did.

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Old 28th Jun 2020, 08:03
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Definitely not just you Bob and judging the by the comments of other people on "Netxdoor" around Croydon, the disgust is widespread.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 09:29
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It's what happens when you have bad role models for parents, and no discipline in schools or at home. Most inner city kids now do nothing to socialise apart from use social media. I could have predicted it years ago.

Oh, I forgot. No respect for the Police and the Police 'taking the knee' and driving around in rainbow coloured police vehicles.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 09:38
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I had the great pleasure of emptying a half-full Macca's drink into a ********'s lap once. Car load of young yobbos, driver put his unfinished drink on the roof of the car and prepared to drive off. they were all laughing about it. I was next to their car, so returned his drink to him and reminded him that he'd forgotten it. For a moment I thought it may have been an unwise move, but it seems my parade ground voice scared them and they took off like scalded cats.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 10:43
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I cannot understand the lack of respect and lack of pride these people have. Leaving used nappies on a beach. Throwing litter out of a car. Are these people actually Homo Sapiens or are they some sort of sub-race? They are verging on being feral.

Trouble is how do you prosecute for it? Any group or person confronted by a police officer would just deny littering and walk away knowing it could not be proven - and there wouldn't be any police there in the first place.

Perhaps a subtle nudging campaign would help. The makers of Eastenders, and Corrie etc could include in their scenes character X dropping litter and character Y saying "Hey, put that in a bin" and character X apologising and doing so.

Many folk simply won't "Take your litter home", so I think the message should be "Litter goes in a bin". And we need many more bins on the street. I like that litter sign in York, I hope it works.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 11:32
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Originally Posted by Loose rivets View Post
I always linger on the Hogarth, but I can't understand what the bloke in the doorway is doing with the saw. Any ideas?
For Loose, quote:
"Further back, a man pawns his coat and saw and his wife her kitchen utensils for a few more drinks. The sour faced pawn broker is appropriately named, "S. Gripe". Both his wealthy home and clothes stand in direct contrast to the ruination around. Only pawn brokers, coffin makers and distillers profit in such a society."
http://www.artoftheprint.com/artistp...am_ginlane.htm
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 12:04
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Originally Posted by 'Chuffer' Dandridge View Post
driving around in rainbow coloured police vehicles.
Could you explain to me the correlation between scumbags littering and homosexuality being accepted after historical criminalisation and persecution? That's an interesting take.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 13:31
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Zoigberg - lovely suggestion. Unfortunately, it requires an ability to read - an increasingly rare talent where (like our U.S. cousins) information is preferred in visual form. If it could be presented in, say, cartoon form, with frequently interposed adverts for 'burgers' or 'fried chicken', it might stand a chance of getting through ... but there again ...
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 13:47
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It's not long ago they were worshipping Greta and blaming the boomers for ruining the world.
Now it's garbage on the beach and a carpet of nitrous oxide capsules.

??? ... Non sequitur or a belief that one 'they' encompasses both?
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 16:18
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First, I've been retired a bit... But I recognise the place of parental example that's been expressed, and brought my parents' expectations to school with me. Now I've worked in dirt poor schools and middle class schools, and have to say the small problems I've seen come from the entitlement of a very small number of the latter. But overall, having been head in 4 schools, it's easy to engender a sense of care for the environment. If you want to! One thing I always did, was to be seen picking up litter- there is always some, after all. For what it's worth, I think there's a primary school generation coming up that might redress the balance.

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I worked for years in a primary school. Iím afraid Iím very cynical as we had an Eco Committee to discuss saving the planet but I had an endless battle reminding the same pupils to shut outside doors in the winter - the times I went into an empty classroom at break time to find the door wide open and the heater pumping out at full strength.

They generally seemed totally unaware of litter too. If the weather was good, they were allowed to eat their packed lunches outside but without fail had be reminded to clear up after themselves. If a wrapper blew away, most would sit there and make no effort to retrieve it until prompted. I think VP959 is correct. Many children are so used to parents doing everything for them, it just doesnít occur to them that if something is dropped, it doesnít automatically get picked up.

Iím sure modern packaging doesnít help either. The amount of packed lunches that had plastic shrink wrapped portions of cheddar - why not buy a block, cut off a portion and wrap it in foil? It must be so expensive to buy ready wrapped cheese that way! And bizarre plastic sachets of yoghurt that the child sucked out. What about a tub and a teaspoon? Quite a few even had preprepared packaged M&S sandwiches too!
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 18:00
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PilotMike mentioned that some people try to bin their litter but the bins are frequently full. I agree, I saw this at our air show. At my last work we had bins and they would attract litter. Seagulls got there before we did. We removed the bins, there was no more litter.

Litter isn't a new problem. 35 years ago I would walk all over Ascension Island. In hollows I would find wind blown alumium cans dropped years earlier by the Americans.

One problem is the increase in food packaging and take aways. Sandwiches used to be homemade and in a tuppaware box - you didn't throw that away. Lemonade came in bottles with a deposit,. If you kept buying but didn't return the empties the shop owner would tell you off.

Why are Lilos, tents, umbrellas dumped? It is easier to dump them. Homes are too small to store them, they only last a season, they are cheap.

We live in a disposable society.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 18:46
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Definitely the self centred me me me younger generation. Last year the Wife and me plus friends attended the Feastival a family oriented music and food festival over a weekend. The place was spotless when the event concluded. The same cannot be said of Glastonbury or the Reading festival. Its the generation of entitled hypocrites who are always banging on about environmental issues or this faddy BLM bollocks whilst creating a mountain of detritus wherever they locate....I had the greatest of pleasure throwing a half eaten burger back into a Range Rover driven by an arrogant prick estate agent type who thought he could litter my street
It appears to me the Police are merely a uniformed branch of the Social Services as opposed to an agency of law enforcement. We need a more robust approach instead of standing idly by with their hands in their pockets whilst statues are toppled....send the wrong signals. If these juvinile activists pondered on the prospect of some tear gas or a whack with a truncheon they might not be so brazen in their actions
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 20:39
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About 70 years ago.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 10:20
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Originally Posted by Burnt Fishtrousers View Post
..........It appears to me the Police are merely a uniformed branch of the Social Services as opposed to an agency of law enforcement. We need a more robust approach instead of standing idly by with their hands in their pockets whilst statues are toppled....send the wrong signals. If these juvinile activists pondered on the prospect of some tear gas or a whack with a truncheon they might not be so brazen in their actions

Some years ago, what used to be the Police FORCE became the Police Service. That's when the problem started.

When I was young, I would see Police walking the streets. Nowadays it is very unusual to see Police: you only see them in cars and when there has been an incident of some sort. They don't actually do much policing any more, just reacting.

This happened around the same time that people started saying to children "Don't do that please. Please come here. Please don't touch that". What has 'please' got to do with a naughty child?

Children need to learn where their boundaries of behaviour should be. When a child is naughty it is subconsciously asking to be told. If the adult gives no reaction or a soft reaction to misbehaviour, the child will not learn their boundaries and could become disrespectful of authority and rules in later life.

Likewise: "Please take your litter home"; as if it is an option. There is no please about it.

"Put your litter in a bin" is what the signs should say.

If litter bins are overflowing, the council needs to increase the patrols of the bin men to empty them. Removing litter bins might appear to solve a litter problem, but it just moves it to somewhere else, such as the road verges and the hedges and pavements.

Most people today will not put rubbish in their pockets or take it home, so there need to be litter bins on the street and in the parks and the beaches.

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Old 29th Jun 2020, 10:35
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Like has been said no discipline or lack of respect for anything, unfortunately some are like it all their lives!!
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 11:26
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It starts with the parents. We are responsible for how our children act.
Watching the number of older people who brazenly ignore signs and direction arrows in supermarkets then itís little wonder that the younger generation has no respect.
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