Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

US Politics Hamsterwheel V3.0

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

US Politics Hamsterwheel V3.0

Old 27th Jun 2020, 16:24
  #1001 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 536
Originally Posted by lomapaseo View Post
You seem to see things as black and white (them vs us) and thus criticize anybody who doesn't see it your way

There is a plus side to taking somebody into camp that also has a big stick. You then find ways of getting along (inter-trading etc.) so you can see how interested he is in this regard rather than poisoning markets against you.
Have you heard yourself?

had Obama not only sat on this intelligence for months but rewarded Putin with a G8 invite, he'd have been lynched. Fact. Fox News would be openly inciting violence.

It is a very sad day when an American defends a compromised President cosying up to an adversary paying to have his troops killed. It's actually mental.
wtsmg is online now  
Old 27th Jun 2020, 16:35
  #1002 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: UK
Age: 50
Posts: 333
Originally Posted by WhatsaLizad? View Post
First of all, I referenced my wife and I with 3 kids. That's 5 people and am well versed on traveling as I work for an airline.Second, unlike the UK (if your Avatar is correct) you make the rather narrow minded observation about the flight time from the US to Asia. From the east US where I live there is another 6-7 hours of flight time to get to Thailand compared to the UK. Finally, the US Dollar value is a fleeting thing. I fondly remember paying $9 US for a pint on most European layovers including taxes.

Add ignorance to your arrogance.
Ok so from the east coast itís what a 4/5 hour flight to the west coast? Add 3 or 4
hours to that (shorter than flying to Hawaii) and be in Italy. Do a twin Center fly drive and take in Italy and Croatia,
see some culture and sights and only spend half the cash that you would have in California. Hotels pretty much everywhere are cheaper than the US (for quality hotels) car hire about the same but food and drink way, way less.

Remember in an earlier post I did say I am American by birth, raised in Canada and now live in the U.K. so Iím not trying to bash, just trying to point out it isnít so hard for Americans to get out and experience the rest of the world that they try so hard to control.
highflyer40 is offline  
Old 27th Jun 2020, 16:45
  #1003 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: FL, USA
Posts: 381
You're going to have to talk to the stateless major multinational corporations about using the US to control the world, protect cheap gas for all and free GPS service.
WhatsaLizad? is offline  
Old 27th Jun 2020, 18:39
  #1004 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: California
Posts: 328
Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
As a Brit* I've also been to all of them, and Cairo/Luxor/Aswan, and Ayres Rock, and Bondi, and the Tikal city, and St Petersburg, and Hang Long Bay, and Kracow (stunningly amazing aircraft museum) and dozens of other places all over the world on all the continents except Antarctica, AND Stratford upon Avon (saw Robert Lindsay playing Richard III - very memorable). I've even been to Preston and (please don't tell anyone) Hull...
If you used Google Maps you could have gone direct.
MarcK is online now  
Old 27th Jun 2020, 21:41
  #1005 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 5,472
Originally Posted by wtsmg View Post
Have you heard yourself?

had Obama not only sat on this intelligence for months but rewarded Putin with a G8 invite, he'd have been lynched. Fact. Fox News would be openly inciting violence.

It is a very sad day when an American defends a compromised President cosying up to an adversary paying to have his troops killed. It's actually mental.

OK I give up

you are color blind
lomapaseo is online now  
Old 27th Jun 2020, 22:18
  #1006 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 536
Originally Posted by lomapaseo View Post
OK I give up

you are color blind
Pretending that you are some sort of wizened old wise sage inferring that Trump's silence and even deference on this matter is some sort of 23 dimensional chess move to geopolitically outmanoeuvre a hostile state is an interesting attempt to spin it, I'll give you that.

Both Hanlon and Occam's razors apply here.

He is compromised. He is demonstrably a moron. Cabinet staff he has hired have called him a moron. He would have been indicted if not for the DOJ memo. Those indictments are in a drawer waiting for the second he is no longer president. The supreme court is scheduled to rule on his Mazars/Deutsche Bank monkey business by close of play next week. It will all come out in the wash. Pretending it isn't happening only serves to embarrass yourself.

There is a wrong and right side of history and doubling down on your poor choices and injurious judgement of character will do you no favours.
wtsmg is online now  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 00:10
  #1007 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 5,472
Originally Posted by wtsmg View Post
Pretending that you are some sort of wizened old wise sage inferring that Trump's silence and even deference on this matter is some sort of 23 dimensional chess move to geopolitically outmanoeuvre a hostile state is an interesting attempt to spin it, I'll give you that.

Both Hanlon and Occam's razors apply here.

He is compromised. He is demonstrably a moron. Cabinet staff he has hired have called him a moron. He would have been indicted if not for the DOJ memo. Those indictments are in a drawer waiting for the second he is no longer president. The supreme court is scheduled to rule on his Mazars/Deutsche Bank monkey business by close of play next week. It will all come out in the wash. Pretending it isn't happening only serves to embarrass yourself.

There is a wrong and right side of history and doubling down on your poor choices and injurious judgement of character will do you no favours.
My gawd man governing is not about character, it's about decision making that improve your subjects. That also is history that survives in statues and books.

If all you're looking at is character, then we can agree he's a cad and an idiot, that got elected because his only opponent was stupidly representing the wrong party. There are much better out there with strong character. that avoid the political mess.so we don't get to choose from the cream at the top
lomapaseo is online now  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 00:33
  #1008 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 44
Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
I truly object to having a thread with the noble purpose of America bashing.
Nobody is bashing America. You're just using the Trump method of disinformation.
Brakes on is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 00:34
  #1009 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 44
The Pandemic is spiking in half the States. The idiot in the WH has nothing better to do then asking the Supreme Court to cancel the Affordable Care Act for which he has no replacement.

Even for the most rabid supporter this should be a step too far.

How many of the 24 million affected are supporters?

How many more can he afford to lose at a poll rate of 36%?
Brakes on is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 00:45
  #1010 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Yakima
Posts: 117
Originally Posted by Brakes on View Post
The Pandemic is spiking in half the States. The idiot in the WH has nothing better to do then asking the Supreme Court to cancel the Affordable Care Act for which he has no replacement.
Even for the most rabid supporter this should be a step too far.
How many of the 24 million affected are supporters?
How many more can he afford to lose at a poll rate of 36%?
The problem is those rabid supporters will neither hear nor understand what he is doing. They have no curiosity and get all their information from FOX news. They have no idea what is happening, except MAGA. Sad but true.

On the plus side, I get the sense the tide has turned and people are just tired of the constant bullshit from Trump. I think he is past his sell by date but doesn't realize it, and with the bubble of ass kissing sycophants he has around him he won't hear a word. It might take a couple more failed rallies with a bored, yawning audience to make that fact start impinging on his perfect brain. Meanwhile we can still anticipate many more very amusing and confusing quotes from Dear Leader to enliven our days.....
Winemaker is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 01:54
  #1011 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: E.Wash State
Posts: 0
Originally Posted by Brakes on View Post
Nobody is bashing America. .
Fooled me...
obgraham is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 02:11
  #1012 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: apogee
Age: 66
Posts: 69
You just don't get it.
Most everyone here likes Americans.
It's the raving lunatics currently running the premises and all their brain damaged lackeys that are ridiculed.
meadowrun is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 02:17
  #1013 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: surfing, watching for sharks
Posts: 3,726
Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
You just don't get it.
Most everyone here likes Americans.
It's the raving lunatics currently running the premises and all their brain damaged lackeys that are ridiculed.
You forgot that it allows you a distraction from your own problems.
West Coast is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 02:55
  #1014 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: E.Wash State
Posts: 0
Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
You just don't get it.
Most everyone here likes Americans.
It's the raving lunatics currently running the premises and all their brain damaged lackeys that are ridiculed.
So you only like half the Americans. The other half are brain damaged lackeys.
Got it.
obgraham is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 03:07
  #1015 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Syd
Posts: 18
Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
You forgot that it allows you a distraction from your own problems.
What problems. The virus has killed 100 times more people in the US per capita than Australia.

There is currently one (1) person in intensive care and only 2 have died in the past month.
Orange future is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 03:18
  #1016 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: apogee
Age: 66
Posts: 69
Half?

Dreaming in technicolour.
meadowrun is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 05:13
  #1017 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Yakima
Posts: 117
What problems. The virus has killed 100 times more people in the US per capita than Australia.

There is currently one (1) person in intensive care and only 2 have died in the past month.
Please don't bring up rational information, this is Ahmurica. Believe me, we, and I mean most of us, are getting really ******* tired of the bullshit from our Dear Leader. I'm starting to think he may just bail from the election. A pipe dream for sure, but still......

Congrats to you and NZ for handling it so well. Wish it was us.
Winemaker is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 05:32
  #1018 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Isle of Man
Posts: 0
Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
So you only like half the Americans. The other half are brain damaged lackeys.
Got it.
Below average. Above average. It applies to all of us. Just a thought.

Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
You just don't get it.
Most everyone here likes Americans.
It's the raving lunatics currently running the premises and all their brain damaged lackeys that are ridiculed.
It is a common view.
West Coast - You forgot that it allows you a distraction from your own problems.
That is true, but you must admit it is one hell of a show. He is doing a great job of it. Sadly people have to live through it.

The US, UK and Europe were never going to do what Australia did. As for NZ, they are literally out on their own.

Last edited by Islandlad; 28th Jun 2020 at 05:44.
Islandlad is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 07:21
  #1019 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Not where I want to be
Age: 67
Posts: 255
Originally Posted by Islandlad View Post
Below average. Above average. It applies to all of us. Just a thought.


It is a common view.


That is true, but you must admit it is one hell of a show. He is doing a great job of it. Sadly people have to live through it.

The US, UK and Europe were never going to do what Australia did. As for NZ, they are literally out on their own.
"Europe" again, eh? Truth is, some countries has done good, mine amongst them, som shite, Italy, UK and others.
Per
Ancient Mariner is online now  
Old 28th Jun 2020, 08:20
  #1020 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Isle of Man
Posts: 0
I was making a point about land mass and flow of people (without actually spelling that out). Ancient I'm not sure where you live, but if it is on the periphery, like NZ, then you are probably going to do better.

Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner View Post
"Europe" again, eh? Truth is, some countries has done good, mine amongst them, som shite, Italy, UK and others.
Per
Norway has done well; but their neighbour Sweden has not. Their policy was a disaster, which is only now coming to light statistically.

This is not over yet. Different countries are pushing out different stats. The only one to look at will be 'Excess Mortality', in the different age ranges. When those figures come back, in a year or two's time, can we compare 'apples with apples'. in the mean time, keep your 'apples' and 'oranges' safe.

NZ and Australia can keep their borders locked down for the duration. I'm not sure what economic impact that will have. That they can jump on their localised outbreaks, with the benefit of improved information, medical protocols and knowledge is great for them. This information was hard learned in countries like Italy and Spain in the early days in 'Europe' - a group of countries which may well have locked down a bit too late. NZ has the luxury of keeping borders closed yet importing all they need from countries dealing with the virus under completely different conditions.

I don't fly any more and have the luxury of not having to move from a very safe area, but the local economy will have to open up beyond borders eventually. Brace for the next 'spike'. It will come; and it will come your way.

Back on topic. the US economy works slightly differently. Right or wrong, Trump has a much bigger problem than Jacinda Ardern in New Zealand. Lets wait and see what happen when NZ opens up again.
Islandlad is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.