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Old 14th Nov 2020, 13:15
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Originally Posted by Hokulea View Post
I agree if you're referring to "our guy" as Biden. Let Trump and his closest associates whine away; it makes them look worse every day. They don't need any more assistance. But then there is no reason to call them "conservacucks". That attitude just gets us back into the worst behavior of the last four years and it's time to change that for the better.
I heard a good one the other day about the proud boys - the q cucks clan.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 14:35
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Originally Posted by Hokulea View Post
I agree if you're referring to "our guy" as Biden. Let Trump and his closest associates whine away; it makes them look worse every day. They don't need any more assistance. But then there is no reason to call them "conservacucks". That attitude just gets us back into the worst behavior of the last four years and it's time to change that for the better.
Agreed. That was in poor taste. Apologies to our fellow citizens across the aisle.
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 16:03
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Bill Maher makes some great points here:

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Old 14th Nov 2020, 17:11
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is this a variation of: 'but Hillary'? One Dowless commited fraud in 2016 and 2018? And what does a single fraud 4 years ago have to do with 2020?
It leaves one wondering how many people are still doing it. The assurances given leave no assurance that this couldn't have happened again. I was criticising the assurances - they lack the detail to assure. Was Dowless unlucky to be caught, just careless, or was he lucky to have formerly got away with it in 2016?
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 18:31
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Originally Posted by MikeSnow View Post
Bill Maher makes some great points here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgrZAPUvKyA
Yep, he sure does - "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

Now Trump has gone, let's regain a bit of sanity on both sides.

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Old 14th Nov 2020, 18:52
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Well I just got back from Saturday shopping and ran smack dab into loud madly cheering crowds with Trump signs lining both sides of 4 lane highway at a major intersection I was driving so I didn't bother reading their signs but unlike my wife they were waving hands at me with open palms. I did all I could to stop her from giving them her middle finger, saying it would probably be on our nightly news and embarrassing to both of us.

I commentrd to my wife that some of the signs said "Trump 2020".which I thought the election was over and the sign would make more sense if it said Trump 2024 to PO Marco Rubio
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 18:57
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Are we there yet?
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Old 14th Nov 2020, 22:36
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Yup - the word is: Biden's mental decline is accelerating and Harris is a shoe in, as per plan A.

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Old 15th Nov 2020, 00:11
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Originally Posted by Imagegear View Post
Yup - the word is: Biden's mental decline is accelerating and Harris is a shoe in, as per plan A.

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You have any evidence for that unfounded claim? A lot of self appointed medical expert internet commentators have diagnosed Biden with dementia by watching videos of him stutter (which has been with him his whole life). But the sharpest I’ve seen him recently was at the first debate. Remember that one, where Republicans said that Biden would have to be wheeled on stage, drooling and forgetting his own name? The debate that Republicans said would expose Joe as being in cognitive decline compared to genius Trump? Well, it turned out to be Trump being shown as having the cognitive impairment of lying/not being able to shut up when it’s not his turn, whereas Joe came across as more reasoned, logical, truthful and empathetic despite the occasional stutter.

I think that debate was the turning point, when enough Americans who may have had doubts about Biden’s ability saw him perform reasonably well and therefore made the decision to cast their vote his way.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 00:37
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 03:22
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Originally Posted by MikeSnow View Post
Bill Maher makes some great points here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgrZAPUvKyA
Every now and then Maher nails it.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 03:37
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Every now and then Maher nails it.
You do realise if the Democrats do what Maher and a lot of others say they should do, then they’ll embrace and enact “far left economic socialist” programs like Medicare for all, Free College, a Green New Deal, paid Vacation and Family Leave etc?
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 04:22
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Oh my goodness, that would mean the common man would begin to reap more life benefits from the system they work their entire lives in.
That would mean somewhat less profit would go up to the top of the trickle down stream headwaters.
How could they possibly stand for that?
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 04:56
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
Oh my goodness, that would mean the common man would begin to reap more life benefits from the system they work their entire lives in.
That would mean somewhat less profit would go up to the top of the trickle down stream headwaters.
How could they possibly stand for that?
unh work the numbers and see who ultimately is paying for it. "somewhat less profit" ? more like 1% from the fat cats and the rest from the workers who actually work.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 05:12
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
You do realise if the Democrats do what Maher and a lot of others say they should do, then they’ll embrace and enact “far left economic socialist” programs like Medicare for all, Free College, a Green New Deal, paid Vacation and Family Leave etc?
Democrats existed long before the the current politically correct, cancel it, apologize for everything attitudes existed. You don’t know US politics as well as you think you do.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 06:42
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
Oh my goodness, that would mean the common man would begin to reap more life benefits from the system they work their entire lives in.
That would mean somewhat less profit would go up to the top of the trickle down stream headwaters.
How could they possibly stand for that?
I’m surprised that people seem to believe (or pretend) that now ‘their’ team is in, it’s going to be paradise for the common man.

Obama ticked all the woke boxes, but his actual achievements were limited. And let’s not pretend that Biden has anywhere near the promise and moral capital that Obama had.

Both the Republicans and the Dems need to be asking themselves how US politics has sunk so low.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 07:34
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Lyrics from an old song from Reagan era but points raised still seem relevant.

America for beginners - Latin Quarter

What's keeping the White House white
Is it chalk, is it fog, is it fear?
Are they staying up most of the night
And sending somebody out for a beer?
Is it bed-time for Bonzo?
Is it time for a change?
Is it flavour-free TV dinners?
It's a hard thing to take, when they make a mistake
America for Beginner.
The sound of a bell with a crack
Even the swingers are swinging right
The vigilantes are on the way back
With prime-time "fight the good fight".
What a start to a day
It starts three times with a "K"
There's no sponsored hour for sinners
They'II bring back the hot seat
And turn up the heat
America for Beginners.
That's America for Beginners.
You wear designer jeans after dark
And your shirts are sharp-cut in satin
But won't you watch out for Central Park
And…
You wear designer jeans after dark
And your shirts are sharp-cut in satin
But won't you watch out for Central Park
And apartments in uptown Manhattan.
It's a sign of the times
Better stay out in front
Because they've only got time for the winners.
Just keep living for fun, you son of a gun
America for Beginners.
Everywhere there's stripes and stars
Men in dark suits in unmarked cars
Sipping Jack Daniels in Third World bars
They're close to the edge,
They're as close as you can get.

Cheers
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 08:29
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
You do realise if the Democrats do what Maher and a lot of others say they should do, then they’ll embrace and enact “far left economic socialist” programs like Medicare for all, Free College, a Green New Deal, paid Vacation and Family Leave etc?
There's nothing "far left", and much less "socialist", about such programs. In fact that's how most of the civilised world run things.

Some Americans have an extremely warped sense of reality, and are seemingly incapable of introducing just a smidgen of nuance into their reasoning. The most common mistake, it seems, is their inability to differentiate between socialism and a social democracy. But, then again, most of them can't distinguish between communism and socialism either. They're also incredibly short-sighted, or stupid if you will, looking only on their tax percentage being relatively low, but fail to add the cost of health insurance, education, lack of paid vacation and family (maternity) leave. If you add the cumulative cost of those items to the taxes they pay, they're either nowhere better or worse off, than people living in societies where all that is paid directly via taxes.

Then again, none of this should come as a surprise when 70 million of them chose to cast their vote for the Orange Panda. That, more than anything, tells you all about the stupidness of a very large proportion of the American electorate.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 09:50
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The biggest con, is that they are told how wealthy they are. The median person's wealth in Switzerland is $228k, while a median person in USA is $66k
Even the evil como person in Taiwan, is doing better

Country or subnational area Median wealth per adult (US dollars)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...alth_per_adult
Mean wealth per adult (US dollars)''' Adult population (thousands)
Switzerland 227,891 564,653 6,866
Australia 181,361 386,058 18,655
Iceland 165,961 380,868 250
Hong Kong(PRC) 146,887 489,258 6,267
Luxembourg 139,789 358,003 461
Belgium 117,093 246,135 8,913
New Zealand 116,433 304,124 3,525
Japan 110,408 238,104 104,963
Canada 107,004 294,255 29,136
Ireland 104,842 272,310 3,491
France 101,942 276,121 49,722
United Kingdom 97,452 280,049 51,209
Singapore 96,967 297,873 4,637
Spain 95,360 207,531 37,450
Austria 94,070 274,919 7,092
Italy 91,889 234,139 48,509
Malta 76,016 143,566 349
South Korea 72,198 175,015 41,721
Norway 70,627 267,348 4,100
Taiwan 70,191 210,525 19,296
Qatar 69,671 147,745 2,223
United States 65,904 432,365 245,140
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 10:49
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
You do realise if the Democrats do what Maher and a lot of others say they should do, then they’ll embrace and enact “far left economic socialist” programs like Medicare for all, Free College, a Green New Deal, paid Vacation and Family Leave etc?
Supporting Free health care, free education, paid holidays and maternity/paternity leave etc , does not make you a socialist, it makes you a decent human being, something Republicans are clearly not.

The Difference Between Republicans and Democrats

A young man, down on his luck, was hitch-hiking through New England. A well-dressed man driving a Lincoln pulled up, lowered the passenger side window, and asked, “Do you vote Republican or Democrat?”
“Democrat,” said the hitch-hiker. And the Lincoln sped off in a cloud of dust.
The next car that pulled up was a Mercedes and the same question was asked. Once again the driver sped away, leaving him beside the road.
He plodded on until a beautiful woman stopped her Mustang GT and, predictably, asked about his politics.
In desperation the young man said, “I’m a Republican.”
The woman welcomed him aboard, and they sped off down the road.
She was gorgeous. She had the face of a goddess, eyes the colour of the sea on a sunny day, golden hair, and legs so beautiful that he couldn’t take his eyes off them as her feet moved on the pedals.
They hadn’t gone very far when he said, “Stop the car. I want to walk.”
“Why?” she asked.
“I’ve been a Republican for ten minutes and already I want to screw somebody.”

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