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Old 20th Oct 2020, 07:41
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
After reading this story, how can anyone be proud to call themselves an American? It’s clear your courts are not impartial and just rule on party lines. No matter which side you’re on you should be ashamed to have this happen:

Deadlocked Supreme Court Allows Extra Time for Some Pennsylvania Ballots
Well done to Justice Roberts for upholding what has been law for a long time.

I'm not sure the US really cares about the global reputation of country of having a partisan supreme court and the constant voter suppression as has been proven in recent weeks. Even before this year, the US was seen as a "flawed democracy" but international standards.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 View Post
Well done to Justice Roberts for upholding what has been law for a long time.

I'm not sure the US really cares about the global reputation of country of having a partisan supreme court and the constant voter suppression as has been proven in recent weeks. Even before this year, the US was seen as a "flawed democracy" but international standards.
Are we to assume that the individual states don't have the authority to issue laws and rules about voting ?

Surely we can't expect the SCOTUS to overturn any such laws that are brought to them in the absence of a Congressional act of issuing common laws for all states
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 20:21
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On the Endorsement Front

Today Admiral McRaven of Seal fame and the leader of the Bin Laden raid endorsed and voted for Joe Biden. On the other side Kristy Alley endorsed Trump.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 20:54
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Originally Posted by The Sultan View Post
Today Admiral McRaven of Seal fame and the leader of the Bin Laden raid endorsed and voted for Joe Biden. On the other side Kristy Alley endorsed Trump.
Conversely, I know an Admiral, USN (retd) who will support trump and I presume that the Duchess of Sussex will vote for Biden. None of these profound comparisons alter the fact that a Biden presidency would be bad for America and bad for the world.

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Old 20th Oct 2020, 21:02
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What bollocks.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 21:13
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Originally Posted by Gipsy Queen View Post
Conversely, I know an Admiral, USN (retd) who will support trump and I presume that the Duchess of Sussex will vote for Biden. None of these profound comparisons alter the fact that a Biden presidency would be bad for America and bad for the world.

What worse than 4 more years with Trump as president? Absolutely seriously you could have a donkey as president and it wouldn’t do worse than Trump has. At least it wouldn’t tweet as much, and I would believe the donkey before Trump.
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 22:00
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None of these profound comparisons alter the fact that a Biden presidency would be bad for America and bad for the world
Care to back up your profound assertions?
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Old 20th Oct 2020, 22:13
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Originally Posted by Gipsy Queen View Post
None of these profound comparisons alter the fact that a Biden presidency would be bad for America and bad for the world.
Er no, that would be your opinion and have nothing to do with facts GQ.

Meanwhile, 50 Cent has signed up for Trump - guess Biden was “scheming on his riches“ - nothing like a brother made good who sure as hell doesn‘t look back 🙄

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Old 20th Oct 2020, 23:40
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Originally Posted by highflyer40 View Post
What worse than 4 more years with Trump as president? Absolutely seriously you could have a donkey as president and it wouldn’t do worse than Trump has. At least it wouldn’t tweet as much, and I would believe the donkey before Trump.
Unquestionably, Trump is a very odd person and a loose cannon. But if one sifts through all the nonsense he and others have talked, there are instances where he has achieved substantial success, particularly in foreign policy. He is given little credit for these. He has stood up to China and in his own peculiar way, put America back on the map. He is brash, boorish, not intellectually over-endowed, uncultured, poorly-educated and not someone I would choose to invite to dinner. Nevertheless, I have a grudging admiration for him.

As far as Biden, the tired establishment figure is concerned, I suspect we shall see him limping in the footsteps of Obama with a generally incoherent foreign policy of appeasement. I hope to live long enough to say "I told you so" - I sincerely hope I don't have to.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 00:53
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' put America back on the map '
I don't know what that means or if it is even an accomplishment of some sort. Is there a trophy of some kind?

Add up the plus and minuses, the tally of accomplishments and failures, the real values of those accomplishments and the depths of the failures.
If done dispassionately, the scales of judgement have one pan planted firmly on the ground.

50 Cents short of a buck, is in his own fantasy land. He's talking about 'Capital Inequalities' as the real bane of his people and he's going to work with whoever addresses that. Address how?
Really the only way to do that is to get a real education - high school graduation would be good but only if that series of grades produces someone who can speak English correctly, use it in daily life, including business and home, and have an acceptable level of comprehension of all the other subjects. Then you can start carving a self-sufficient path for yourself in this world. Start with that.
There will be no capital adjustment to level the playing field, no reparations for historical injustice, no cash bonuses and no special rules or laws for a special class of people.

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Old 21st Oct 2020, 01:12
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America is already on the map for a record rate of Covid-19 deaths per capita.

If we only have 500 hundred more deaths a day until the end of the year, it's still way too many.

Happy Thanksgiving, every one!
(To paraphrase Tiny Tim.)
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 01:50
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Originally Posted by Gipsy Queen View Post
(Trump) has stood up to China and in his own peculiar way, put America back on the map. He is brash, boorish, not intellectually over-endowed, uncultured, poorly-educated and not someone I would choose to invite to dinner. Nevertheless, I have a grudging admiration for him.

As far as Biden, the tired establishment figure is concerned, I suspect we shall see him limping in the footsteps of Obama with a generally incoherent foreign policy of appeasement. I hope to live long enough to say "I told you so" - I sincerely hope I don't have to.
So, parsing through the "typical British understatement" and generalities, you think China is the big issue.

And your solution to that is not to strike up "Rule Britannia" and take on China yourself, under the stalwart command of BoJo, but instead suck hind-tit on US foreign policy, and have us do it for you?

Sorry, our President gets elected to solve our problems. Which we will prioritize by our own vote - and may include China. But thanks for the advice, old boy, old top, old bean.

(I know that sounds a bit like West Coast - we'll see if he agrees with me. Sometimes Americans close ranks on certain issues, and sometimes we don't)
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 03:06
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Yeah, really standing up to China. Comedy gold.




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Old 21st Oct 2020, 03:09
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Projection. It's ALWAYS projection.

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Old 21st Oct 2020, 03:23
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full View Post
So, parsing through the "typical British understatement" and generalities, you think China is the big issue.

And your solution to that is not to strike up "Rule Britannia" and take on China yourself, under the stalwart command of BoJo, but instead suck hind-tit on US foreign policy, and have us do it for you?

Sorry, our President gets elected to solve our problems. Which we will prioritize by our own vote - and may include China. But thanks for the advice, old boy, old top, old bean.

(I know that sounds a bit like West Coast - we'll see if he agrees with me. Sometimes Americans close ranks on certain issues, and sometimes we don't)
Amen brother, preach on.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 03:25
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Originally Posted by visibility3miles View Post
America is already on the map for a record rate of Covid-19 deaths per capita.

If we only have 500 hundred more deaths a day until the end of the year, it's still way too many.

Happy Thanksgiving, every one!
(To paraphrase Tiny Tim.)
I agree, 50,000 deaths per day would be indeed way too many. It would mean a total of 3.5 million deaths by Christmas.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 03:51
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I agree, 50,000 deaths per day would be indeed way too many. It would mean a total of 3.5 million deaths by Christmas.
Add to that the millions that get sick and survive and the real impact is seen. Surely after we start totaling up many millions who have gotten it (dead or still alive) then how likely is it that those of us that are virgins will get it from nobody?

We need some data, Can we convince a defined group in a bubble to throw away their masks and see how the statistics work out over time.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:03
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Can we convince a defined group in a bubble to throw away their masks and see how the statistics work out over time.
You mean the people attending a Trump rally? Yes it would REALLY be interesting to trace the progress of the disease in this group.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:11
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From an article in the Calgary Herald:“Of the Albertans who have died, 2.8 per cent had no comorbidities, 5.2 per cent had one, 18.9 per cent had two and 73.1 per cent had three or more.

The test positivity rate for Sunday peaked at the highest it’s been since May 4, with a positivity rate of 2.6 per cent. There were 356 cases identified Sunday from 13,578 tests, according to Monday’s update from Alberta Health.

The rest of the weekend had slightly lower test positivity rates with 311 cases discovered from 16,021 tests on Friday — a positivity rate of 1.9 per cent — and 231 cases detected from 12,556 tests on Saturday — a positivity rate of 1.8 per cent.

There are 117 COVID-19 patients in hospital, including 18 requiring intensive care.

Another patient who was on a cardiac unit at Foothills Medical Centre tested positive, bringing the total number of patients linked to the outbreak to 47. Twelve people have died in connection to the COVID-19 outbreak at the Calgary hospital.

There are 3,138 active cases in the province. The Calgary zone has 998, the Edmonton zone has 1,604, the Central zone has 148, the South zone has 191 and the North zone has 180.

The number of active cases hasn’t been this high since 3,022 cases were active on April 30.

Six Calgary schools are under “watch” advisories, meaning there are five or more cases identified among teachers, staff or students, and 16 Calgary schools are listed as having two to four cases.

Coventry Hills School in northeast Calgary has identified two or more cases, which has caused the school to temporarily close its doors”.
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Old 21st Oct 2020, 04:14
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
You mean the people attending a Trump rally? Yes it would REALLY be interesting to trace the progress of the disease in this group.
The Brits have a trial starting this Thursday, some folks have volunteered to be infected, then see if available treatments work.

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