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Old 18th Oct 2020, 00:00
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Donald and Melania Trump voted by absentee ballots in Florida.

So that's at least one vote for the Donald...
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 00:10
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Originally Posted by fltlt View Post
Big difference being here and watching it on TV.
Dre’s posts reminds me of the scene from Good will hunting where Robin Williams discusses the difference between reading about something and having lived it.
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 01:23
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Originally Posted by visibility3miles View Post
Donald and Melania Trump voted by absentee ballots in Florida.

So that's at least one vote for the Donald...

Don't be so sure Melania wants to give up the f*king christmas decoration job
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 01:58
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;-) LOL...
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 02:10
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
Dre’s posts reminds me of the scene from Good will hunting where Robin Williams discusses the difference between reading about something and having lived it.
Yourself and fltlt’s posts remind me of those who just use personal attacks as their total arguments, rather than substantive evidence based factual information to discuss a point. I don’t even know what fltlt was referring to when he said “big difference between being here and watching it on TV”?

What are you trying to argue? That the GOP isn’t trying to limit access to voting in Florida and Texas? Great, then provide some substantive evidence to back up whatever your point is please. Everyone has an anecdotal story that funnily enough backs up their opinion, but I prefer evidence.

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Old 18th Oct 2020, 02:36
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
Yourself and fltlt’s posts remind me of those who just use personal attacks as their total arguments, rather than substantive evidence based factual information to discuss a point. I don’t even know what fltlt was referring to when he said “big difference between being here and watching it on TV”?

What are you trying to argue? That the GOP isn’t trying to limit access to voting in Florida and Texas? Great, then provide some substantive evidence to back up whatever your point is please. Everyone has an anecdotal story that funnily enough backs up their opinion, but I prefer evidence.

I prefer someone other than a search engine.
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 12:32
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Originally Posted by fltlt View Post
One can write a law that is sufficiently vague in certain areas that the author(s) wish to litigate at a later date, why, because it would never pass the Senate if written as a plain, clear law.

Fund a straw man to start at the bottom, judge shop up the court ladders, end up in the Supreme Court, engage gear on all your “ friends of the court” to write amicus briefs, roll the dice.
Both sides do it.
How many years is that likely to take.?
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 13:16
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
I prefer someone other than a search engine.
Such as?
DJT?
Who would you believe?


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Old 18th Oct 2020, 13:49
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Originally Posted by fltlt View Post
Big difference being here and watching it on TV.
What TV stations are you referring to?
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 14:53
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Judging by your obsession I'd say your the one who's not well? Do you even live here?
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 15:23
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Does it matter where anyone lives? the fact remains that DJT is a basket case..

If I had to describe Trump in one word, it would be...BIZARRE

And No, I am not a great fan of Biden either...but at least he doesnt come out with crap that leaves you scratching your head and wondering.."Where the hell did that come from?"

Wherever you are in the USA. please think hard on November 3rd...
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 15:33
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Originally Posted by ATSA1 View Post
Does it matter where anyone lives? the fact remains that DJT is a basket case..

If I had to describe Trump in one word, it would be...BIZARRE

And No, I am not a great fan of Biden either...but at least he doesnt come out with crap that leaves you scratching your head and wondering.."Where the hell did that come from?"

Wherever you are in the USA. please think hard on November 3rd...
If you lived here then you'd probably know that Obama did indeed with a stroke of a pen take away 5000 miles off the coast of Maine. Whatever, you guys need a hobby.
http://President Barack Obama design...f New England.
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 17:15
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cappt: take away from whom?

You are aware that the Submerged Lands Act of 1953 grants individual States rights over natural resources in the ocean only out to three (3) miles from shore? Anything beyond that is exclusively Federal property.

(BTW - passed by a Republican-controled House and Senate, and signed by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower)

https://www.boem.gov/oil-gas-energy/...offshore-lands

The Northeast Canyons and Sea Mounts Natl. Monument is 120-240 miles from the nearest shore of any State (Nantucket Island, Massachusetts, not Maine). Always was Federal property - still is. So again, who was it "taken away" from?
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 18:31
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full View Post
cappt: take away from whom?

You are aware that the Submerged Lands Act of 1953 grants individual States rights over natural resources in the ocean only out to three (3) miles from shore? Anything beyond that is exclusively Federal property.

(BTW - passed by a Republican-controled House and Senate, and signed by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower)

https://www.boem.gov/oil-gas-energy/...offshore-lands

The Northeast Canyons and Sea Mounts Natl. Monument is 120-240 miles from the nearest shore of any State (Nantucket Island, Massachusetts, not Maine). Always was Federal property - still is. So again, who was it "taken away" from?
If it was always the federal governments property then why did they feel a need to do anything? By declaring it a national monument they take it away from the people of Maine, away from the fishing and lobster industry Maine is known for.
You've help me make the point that it was taken away from the people and Trump has given some off that back.
Trump has lifted the fishing restrictions on the monument while still maintaining sanctuary status with restrictions on gas/oil and wind industry.
Peace-out!
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 19:32
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Originally Posted by cappt View Post
If it was always the federal governments property then why did they feel a need to do anything? By declaring it a national monument they take it away from the people of Maine, away from the fishing and lobster industry Maine is known for.
You've help me make the point that it was taken away from the people and Trump has given some off that back.
Trump has lifted the fishing restrictions on the monument while still maintaining sanctuary status with restrictions on gas/oil and wind industry.
Peace-out!
Surely one small region where there were restrictions on fishing and lobster pots would mean the surrounding areas would be even more plentiful, due to making that area a breeding ground where the stocks would fan out into the fishable areas? Sounds like a good plan to me.
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 20:31
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan View Post
How many years is that likely to take.?
Surprisingly not that long, don’t forget, we Joe public think in terms of 4 years, political parties/business, decades.
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 20:54
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Originally Posted by gsky View Post
Such as?
DJT?
Who would you believe?
In this case, the local Los Angeles TV channel 7 reported that an agreement had been achieved that allowed the “unofficial” ballot boxes to remain, albeit with a couple of caveats.
7 is considered to be on the same political side as 2,4,9 etc., Democratic leaning, with 11 (Fox) the other side.
That announcement came as, and prior to, articles still being published that the boxes were illegal and to be removed.

Dre obviously had not heard that.

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Old 18th Oct 2020, 22:48
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Originally Posted by fltlt View Post
In this case, the local Los Angeles TV channel 7 reported that an agreement had been achieved that allowed the “unofficial” ballot boxes to remain, albeit with a couple of caveats.
7 is considered to be on the same political side as 2,4,9 etc., Democratic leaning, with 11 (Fox) the other side.
That announcement came as, and prior to, articles still being published that the boxes were illegal and to be removed.

Dre obviously had not heard that.

I would care to read any official support for this unless it's just an unfounded rumor
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 05:44
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Originally Posted by cappt View Post
If it was always the federal governments property then why did they feel a need to do anything? By declaring it a national monument they take it away from the people of Maine, away from the fishing and lobster industry Maine is known for.
Nope - that land (or sea floor) always belonged to every American - repeat - every American. It still belongs to every American. Including me (approximately 46 square yards of it, although not literally, since it is held "in common.")

It never "belonged" to fishermen. If it did, you can show me their title to it. But you can't.

If fishermen from Maine or anywhere else want to use that sea floor for their own use and profit - they can feel free to ask me and every other American for permission. And we'll all vote on it.

Or - we can all vote for a President, and let him decide who can use it. I don't have a legal issue with Trump's power to restore fishing. But it is the exact same power Obama used (and Biden may use - or not) to bar it. In our names.
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Old 19th Oct 2020, 05:52
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Originally Posted by lomapaseo View Post
I would care to read any official support for this unless it's just an unfounded rumor
Try: https://www.politico.com/states/cali...guards-1326076

A "plea deal" more or less - no prosecutions so long as certain actions are taken.

Personally, I am in favor of maximising voter turnout by anyone. So long as the safeguards are there.

But the funny/sad part is that 'Pubs whined and whimpered and called this "ballot harvesting" when Dems did it, but are OK with it, depending on who's doing it. Tribalism.
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