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Originally Posted by ORAC
Dammit folks the real issue is the do-nothing congress that can override a weak president
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
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US set to ban TikTok and WeChat in 48 hours
The Department of Commerce said on Friday it would issue an order barring US citizens from downloading messaging app WeChat or video-sharing app TikTok. The order will ban the apps from being distributed through any app store on any platform.
The government is concerned the Chinese-owned apps could threaten national security. If a partnership between Oracle and TikTok owner ByteDance is agreed - and approved by President Trump - the app would not be banned.
It is not yet clear whether Mr Trump will approve the deal, but he is expected to review it before the Sunday deadline.......
US set to ban TikTok and WeChat in 48 hours
The Department of Commerce said on Friday it would issue an order barring US citizens from downloading messaging app WeChat or video-sharing app TikTok. The order will ban the apps from being distributed through any app store on any platform.
The government is concerned the Chinese-owned apps could threaten national security. If a partnership between Oracle and TikTok owner ByteDance is agreed - and approved by President Trump - the app would not be banned.
It is not yet clear whether Mr Trump will approve the deal, but he is expected to review it before the Sunday deadline.......
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Originally Posted by De_flieger
It would be like refusing to wear a company issued pair of black uniform pants because you erroneously see it as showing support for Black Lives Matter because the word "black" appears in both, or something equally ridiculous. If I worked at McDonalds and refused to wear something with a red and yellow logo because the same colours appeared on the Chinese flag and I thought that meant the logo expressed covert support for China against America, it shouldn't be grounds for a "freedom of expression and religious views" lawsuit, I would just be wrong and after counselling, probably justifiably fired for refusal to abide by the company uniform practices.
Unless I missed the point of that post altogether and it meant was to point out how people misuse and abuse the legal system to get redress for imagined persecution that doesn't exist outside their own heads?
Unless I missed the point of that post altogether and it meant was to point out how people misuse and abuse the legal system to get redress for imagined persecution that doesn't exist outside their own heads?
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US set to ban TikTok and WeChat in 48 hours
In his usual true character, Trump has got this covered no matter how it turns out. If it comes down bad, he will blame Wilbur. If it comes down good, he will take all the credit, Wilbur who?
WSJ Capital Journal - Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said the U.S. will ban downloads of the video-sharing app TikTok and the U.S. use of the popular messaging and electronic payment app WeChat after Sunday night.
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Originally Posted by lomapaseo
Dammit folks the real issue is the do-nothing congress that can override a weak president
The GOP Congress "stonewalled" Obama on many things 2013-2017, so it cuts both ways.
Which part of the Congress do you think is currently "do-nothing?" The Pelosi House has passed many bills, and sent them to the Senate, controlled by Trump's erstwhile ally, Mitch McConnell. Where they sit - and sit - and sit.
The Presidency today is actually quite a bit stronger than it was 100 years ago, or in 1790. Some would say Congress has ceded too much of its power to the Executive branch (all those "deep-state" rules-makers conservatives complain about).
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full
SCOUTUS Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies at 87
What happens now Pattern? Or is this question superfluous as the Republicans will surely trumpet, under the banner of fair play, the idea that any action must wait until after the election.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fred
RIP RBG.
What happens now Pattern? Or is this question superfluous as the Republicans will surely trumpet, under the banner of fair play, the idea that any action must wait until after the election.
What happens now Pattern? Or is this question superfluous as the Republicans will surely trumpet, under the banner of fair play, the idea that any action must wait until after the election.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fred
RIP RBG.
What happens now Pattern? Or is this question superfluous as the Republicans will surely trumpet, under the banner of fair play, the idea that any action must wait until after the election.
What happens now Pattern? Or is this question superfluous as the Republicans will surely trumpet, under the banner of fair play, the idea that any action must wait until after the election.
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“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,”
Mitch McConnell
Oh wait, that was from 2016. February 2016 to be exact, 9 months before the election when McConnell refused to confirm Obama’s nominee.
So C’mon Republican sympathisers on here, please try and explain that hypocrisy.......
Mitch McConnell
Oh wait, that was from 2016. February 2016 to be exact, 9 months before the election when McConnell refused to confirm Obama’s nominee.
So C’mon Republican sympathisers on here, please try and explain that hypocrisy.......
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fred
RIP RBG.
What happens now Pattern? Or is this question superfluous as the Republicans will surely trumpet, under the banner of fair play, the idea that any action must wait until after the election.
What happens now Pattern? Or is this question superfluous as the Republicans will surely trumpet, under the banner of fair play, the idea that any action must wait until after the election.
But the politics of this in an election Autumn get pretty dense. Especially with only a 46-day window before the election - but with an additional 2 months ("Lame Duck" period) between the election and any change in President or the Senate. And a 5-3 conservative majority in place already, in case the Court needs to get involved in post-election squabbles.
The GOP holds the Senate by 4 votes (counting a possible tiebreaker by VP Mike Pence). At least one GOP Senator (Murkowski - Alaska) has said today she won't vote to confirm a nominee before Election Day. Another three would block an early confirmation, and there are a few who are in very tight races (or losing outright right now) and really don't need this to be a campaign issue, or previously made committments (hah!) to do like Murkowski and wait, or hate Trump's guts. Technically that could put GOP Senators Collins, Grassley, Graham, or Romney (and maybe Gardner and Tillis) in play to hold things up in the Senate until after Election Day (that won't necessarily mean Trump has to wait to nominate someone).
Of note, Mitch McConnell's statement Friday guaranteeing a vote on any Trump nominee does not name a date. And apparently he has sent around a "Dear Colleague" letter to his fellow Senators for a brainstorming session in a few days on the political pluses and minuses.
Which track will bring out the most GOP voters and save the most Senate seats (or Trump): trying to jam it through in 46 days (while also trying to campaign), or letting it hang out there, and passing it at their leisure in November. And can they even get the votes to do it earlier?
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Barron Trump Confirmed As Next Supreme Court Justice
A 16 year-old boy described by some as an ‘academic genius – believe me, he has a tremendous legal mind’, has been confirmed as the next Supreme Court Justice, following the death of Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
The confirmation comes after an extensive search which lasted many, many minutes and spanned the entire President’s family.
“He is the perfect choice. Very successful. Great guy by the way,” a spokesperson said.
Republicans say Barron Trump is ‘uniquely qualified for the role’. “What he lacks in legal experience he makes up for in his surname,” one Republican Senator said.
US President Donald Trump said he had met the new justice many times before and had even spent time with him this year – a claim which some sources say is probably untrue.
More to come.
A 16 year-old boy described by some as an ‘academic genius – believe me, he has a tremendous legal mind’, has been confirmed as the next Supreme Court Justice, following the death of Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
The confirmation comes after an extensive search which lasted many, many minutes and spanned the entire President’s family.
“He is the perfect choice. Very successful. Great guy by the way,” a spokesperson said.
Republicans say Barron Trump is ‘uniquely qualified for the role’. “What he lacks in legal experience he makes up for in his surname,” one Republican Senator said.
US President Donald Trump said he had met the new justice many times before and had even spent time with him this year – a claim which some sources say is probably untrue.
More to come.
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Some history to the current hostile party partisan politics in the US
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Originally Posted by dr dre
“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,”
Mitch McConnell
Oh wait, that was from 2016. February 2016 to be exact, 9 months before the election when McConnell refused to confirm Obama’s nominee.
So C’mon Republican sympathisers on here, please try and explain that hypocrisy.......
Mitch McConnell
Oh wait, that was from 2016. February 2016 to be exact, 9 months before the election when McConnell refused to confirm Obama’s nominee.
So C’mon Republican sympathisers on here, please try and explain that hypocrisy.......
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Originally Posted by wtsmg
Good luck with that one. The cult members don’t care one iota about honesty or hypocrisy.
"I'll tell you this – this may make you feel better, but I really don't care – if an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait until the next election,"
How about Ted Cruz:
“It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
Marco Rubio:
“I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term — I would say that if it was a Republican president .”
Republican Senator Thom Tillis:
“The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
Along with about a dozen others....
So c’mon Republicans, why the hypocrisy now? We’re waiting....
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The smart move is to pray that by waiting for the election, the republicans will concentrate their efforts on the senate race to prepare for next years confirmation under whoever.
That means only a few middle of the road black female candidate names will be leaked before the election in order to bolster a senate race
That means only a few middle of the road black female candidate names will be leaked before the election in order to bolster a senate race
