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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 15:48
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Originally Posted by Hokulea View Post
What's your opinion on the US president's own online disrespectful, personal attacks and name-calling? .
This has been asked and answered many times, I’ll humor you however.

DT is a vulgar man. I dislike his style. Like last time, I don’t intent on voting for him this election. That doesn’t mean I reject everything about him, that being a sign of having TDS. I look at his actions individually and make my judgements.


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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 15:57
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Originally Posted by Two's in View Post
Surely you overlook the respectful way the 2 hookers were fully paid off along with NDAs, nothing but respect for his wife.
And a warm, wet humidor, a blue dress....nothing but respect for his wife. If Biden is elected, his Veep will have screwed her way towards the top, his wife stands accused of cheating, and Biden himself is creepy.

You can point out equally troubling personal lives of conservatives and likely youíd be correct. Itís not limited to one party or ideology.



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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 16:58
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Whataboutery is all you got?, 2 wrongs don't make a right boyo...your man is a wrong un through and through
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 17:30
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
He doesn't drink.
Imagine if he did.
D'Ream springs to mind.

In other news, Fox News castigates Joe Biden for 'only being able to read a teleprompter'.


Apparently, it's harder than you might think.

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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 22:50
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Although this will be of little interest to our foreign peanut gallery, which is only interested in appearance and good intentions, it turns out that t'Internet can be very revealing, as nothing goes away.

It turns out that Biden's DNC speech this past week was pretty much word for word the same speech he gave in 2008 when he took the VP nomination. Same words, same cliches. Moreover, most of it was plagiarized from Jack Layton, a lefty Canadian running for leadership there some years back.

No wonder he could read it well. He had 12 years practice in the basement.

But it begs the question: Obama and Biden were elected in 2008, with firm majorities in both the House and the Senate. These were the things Biden said he was going to accomplish. So why didn't they get any of them done? And why would we expect him to accomplish those same goals now, 12 years more senile older.

These are among the questions conservative voters ask, before deciding if they should abandon Trump and his character deficiencies.

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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 23:36
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
It turns out that Biden's DNC speech this past week was pretty much word for word the same speech he gave in 2008 when he took the VP nomination.
Given both 2008 and 2020 involved a period of recession and bungled crisis handling (Iraq/Corona) caused because of the bad decisions of an incompetent Republican President, itís no surprise Biden has to use the same words.

What did they get done in the first two years whilst holding both houses of Congress? Just start the economy back on track from the mess it had been put in, passed the Stimulus, saved GM and Chrysler, established a better healthcare system (that should be further improved), financial regulation reform, got banks back on their feet with little government cost, repealed Donít Ask Donít Tell, improved Tobacco regulation, new START treaty, allowed Stem Cell research and a whole host of other things.
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 23:37
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and Biden himself is creepy
"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab ‘em by the pussy. You can do anything.”

“Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?”

“I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

“Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?”
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 23:57
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So Dre, you think it isn't odd to use the same word for word speech, 12 years later, hawking the same issues, but now hold yourself out as "the big change".

But of course "there's somethin' happenin' here".

Excuse us if some of us don't buy the re-tread argument.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 00:10
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
his Veep will have screwed her way towards the top, his wife stands accused of cheating
Because the only reason a woman could be successful is if she slept with more powerful men? For the uninitiated Harris dated the former CA assembly speaker for a brief period in the 90ís, and he did appoint her to a few low level state commissions for a brief period, but all her major accomplishments (SF DA, CA AG, Senate) were made with on her merit.

Jill Bidenís ex is just jealous his former wife could soon be in the White House. The story of what happened almost 50 years ago is just a he said she said story, even her ex acknowledged they drifted apart quite quickly. He just wants his 15 minutes of fame.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 00:16
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
So Dre, you think it isn't odd to use the same word for word speech, 12 years later, hawking the same issues, but now hold yourself out as "the big change".
No I donít. The same themes for similar times doesnít strike me as odd at all. Given the theme of Bidenís election is a return to competent leadership I bet a lot of swing voters are looking for a return to more reasoned times.

It will be a big change. A Biden Admin will probably enact a big change and listen to scientific advice when crafting decisions.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 00:30
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And have trump undergo mental health assessments to confirm that he is a danger to himself and the public and cannot cross the street on his own.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 00:33
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
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. A Biden Admin will probably enact a big change and listen to scientific advice when crafting decisions.
Which one? Fauci then, Fauci now, or Fauci whenever?
And just which "decision" did Trump make contrary to his science advisors?
(Babbling on Twitter is not a "decision".)
And which of Biden's proposals are significantly different from what Trump already did? (Except where Biden says he'll close the economy forever if he is told to.)
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 00:41
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
And just which "decision" did Trump make contrary to his science advisors?
(Babbling on Twitter is not a "decision".)
I listed these way back in post #2054 but hereís a few for your perusal:

Failure to institute prompt nationwide testing as advised by scientists.
Cutting funding for research specifically of coronaviruses by scientists.
Not renewing federal "stay at home" guidelines at the end of April as advised by scientists.
Interfering with CDC scientist derived guidelines on safe re-opening.
Removing CDC guidelines about mass gatherings of choirs to satisfy his evangelical base.
Wasting money on useless Hydroxychloroquine treatments for the DVA which made it scarce for those with autoimmune disorders who actually need it.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 01:05
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
Because the only reason a woman could be successful is if she slept with more powerful men? For the uninitiated Harris dated the former CA assembly speaker for a brief period in the 90’s, and he did appoint her to a few low level state commissions for a brief period, but all her major accomplishments (SF DA, CA AG, Senate) were made with on her merit.

Jill Biden’s ex is just jealous his former wife could soon be in the White House. The story of what happened almost 50 years ago is just a he said she said story, even her ex acknowledged they drifted apart quite quickly. He just wants his 15 minutes of fame.
Were you asked to speak at the DNC convention? You’re 100% synced up to the DNC party line.

They bumped uglies and then she was then appointed to positions, yet there’s no “there” there, take the rose colored glasses off and stop being naive. Even the left leaning San Francisco Chronicle newspaper has questioned the relationship wrt her advancement. Even Brown himself doesn’t deny advancing her career, yet you’re here to deny her climb isn’t tied to sleeping with one of the most powerful politicians in California history.

“Yes, we dated. It was more than 20 years ago. Yes, I may have influenced her career by appointing her to two state commissions when I was Assembly speaker. And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San Francisco”

Quote from Willie Brown regarding Harris.

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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 01:21
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
. And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San FranciscoĒ

Quote from Willie Brown regarding Harris.
Wow a politician from one political party helping someone else from the same party with their career.

What a scandal, Harris should withdraw from the race immediately.

Real leaders donít use any help to get ahead in life, except for inheriting millions from their rich daddies.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 01:27
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
No I donít. The same themes for similar times doesnít strike me as odd at all. Given the theme of Bidenís election is a return to competent leadership I bet a lot of swing voters are looking for a return to more reasoned times.

It will be a big change. A Biden Admin will probably enact a big change and listen to scientific advice when crafting decisions.
That's what concerns me

what if the medical scientific health-advice collides with the economic health-advice. I guess if you are on the dole the economic advice is wasted on you
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 01:47
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Dre, you can't just throw out stuff because it has a nice ring to it.

What does this mean, in real terms?
Failure to institute prompt nationwide testing as advised by scientists.
Moreover as to
Interfering with CDC scientist derived guidelines on safe re-opening.
the President has to take into account his economic advisors. Scientists do not control the economy.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 01:56
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
Wow a politician from one political party helping someone else from the same party with their career.

What a scandal, Harris should withdraw from the race immediately.

Real leaders donít use any help to get ahead in life, except for inheriting millions from their rich daddies.
dre, real leaders........

You canít be that naive, surely?

Pelosi is still there because she out raises the rest of the Dems by a large margin.

If you donít have personal funds, can raise big funds, or get the support of large institutions, unions, association, PACs, for big funds, you are a non starter, period.

This is politics, not the real world.

As to Willie Brown and Kamala Harris, age old tale, ambitious young woman, horny old man who just happens to be a king/queen maker in California politics.
You did know that before he joined the body politic, he was a lawyer, mostly to pimps, pretty much always had girlfriends while he was married, read into that what you will.
And those committees, rewards for donations/help given/jobs for well heeled patrons kids, they run the whole gamut.
That is one of the reasons , not specifically Harrisís appointments, but the whole scheme, that CA finds itself with a multitude of problems, ranging from pensions, infrastructure, water, power, on and on.

The original purpose of the oversight boards was to provide just that, oversight, however when you load them up with unqualified people, it doesnít work, never has. They succumb to agenda driven political schemes, a few years down the road, like now, when the power goes out, everyone asks what happened, the answer is, unfortunately, nothing, the warnings were given, nobody paid attention, nothing was done. But the oversight boards will continue on their merry way, no accountability.

Personally, I abhor that type of governance, but thatís just me.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 02:01
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
Wow a politician from one political party helping someone else from the same party with their career.

What a scandal, Harris should withdraw from the race immediately.

Real leaders donít use any help to get ahead in life, except for inheriting millions from their rich daddies.
You went from saying nothing there to admitting favoritism to deflecting to Trump. Your lack of consistency comes from trying to piece together google searches into a coherent picture of someone.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 02:10
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take the rose colored glasses off and stop being naive.
Ahh, West Coast must be one of them libtards - he's "telling people what they should think."
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