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Old 29th Jun 2020, 09:20
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The only thing I know about Somalis is that they are inveterate traders, in that every cross border post I have ever crossed in Africa (and there has been a good many in my time) has its group of Somali traders ensconced on or near, "facilitating" trans shipment. Further up the African pecking order you get the Lebanese fixers (usually a lot closer to the President) doing a similar sort of "facilitation", just with bigger numbers. Not sure about their war like qualities.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 11:36
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Just amazing how many of those educated at British public schools and universities then returned home to achieve that ambition......
Are you suggesting that the buffoon might be moving to some European destination in search of greater fame? One lives in hope, but surely not...?
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 12:35
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-29361704
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 13:04
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I'm having difficulty, again, in following the relevance of ORAC's latest, but, there could well be one. At first, I had hoped that he might be referencing the vastly more relevant piece in today's lunchtime Beeb Radio 4 News - an extended piece on the prime 'actors' in a world renowned photograph from Little Rock, Arkansas. Those of us who saw the original and lived through the period of bigotry and intolerance which followed , and, to a slightly lesser extent, still does, would have welcomed this valuable update. The 'story' was, in many ways, remarkable, in others unexpected and the 'denoument' unfortunate but, ultimately 'in character'. The great misfortune is that the ever-present c&p 'skills' of ORAC failed to capture this little, totally appropriate, broadcasting gem - unsurprising, but entirely in demonstrated character. For those who like to approach these matters with an 'open ' mind, I can highly recommend it.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 18:15
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Brexit will only make matters worse. Pre-Brexit the majority of UK immigration was from EU and of net positive worth, in that they were literate, numerate, and their offspring rapidly assimilated within a generation. Post Brexit that will all change. The much vaunted ďpoints basedĒ immigration system is totally unenforcable given that most education and financial systems in Nigeria/Pakistan/India (where most of the applicants will come from) are not auditable. The system will be utterly inundated with fraudulent applications. And if, amongst those applications, there are any who are genuinely literate, numerate, educated and honest enough to make a positive contribution to UK society - they should be obliged to remain in their home countries where they are desperately needed...
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 20:51
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they should be obliged to remain in their home countries where they are desperately needed...
As I've said before (and will most likely reiterate in the future) fine words butter no parsnips. How do you think the 'obligation' will be enforced?
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 21:09
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Originally Posted by Trim Stab View Post
Brexit will only make matters worse. Pre-Brexit the majority of UK immigration was from EU and of net positive worth, in that they were literate, numerate, and their offspring rapidly assimilated within a generation. Post Brexit that will all change. ..
Not necessarily. There are plenty of Poles or Romanians etc who don't speak English and live in enclaves of Eastern Europeans, drinking in Polish bars, shop in Eastern European shops, watching TV in their own language from their home countries, and have brought their petty feuds and football violence with them. Basically a minority make very little effort to assimilate. They stand out less than similar immigrants from Asia or Africa because of their colour but nevertheless they are here.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 21:29
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Not necessarily. There are plenty of Poles or Romanians etc who don't speak English and live in enclaves of Eastern Europeans, drinking in Polish bars, shop in Eastern European shops, watching TV in their own language from their home countries, and have brought their petty feuds and football violence with them. Basically a minority make very little effort to assimilate. They stand out less than similar immigrants from Asia or Africa because of their colour but nevertheless they are here.
I agree, but to be fair, many Brits overseas do exactly the same thing. I've seen bars in parts of Spain and Africa that were more or less exclusive to ex-pats. Some were viper pits of back-stabbing and malicious gossip. I usually avoided them in favour of absorbing the local ambience.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 21:50
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It was only a few years ago when the establishment rallied around Charlie Hebdo's right to be offensive towards Islam.

What has triggered the change in political climate?
Since Charlie Hebdo, the world has become increasingly infected by a mass contagion, the principal affects of which include inhibiting personal opinion and seeking to ostracise those unwilling to see the emperor's new clothes. We have been overtaken by a plague of "wokeness" and appear to have little in the way of defence against it - indeed, seeking to resist its affects is a heinous offence in itself. Most assuredly, we have fallen down Alice's rabbit hole to confront a ghastly surrealism where the apotheosis of a violent crack-head criminal seems imminent, history is inverted and even the Archbishop of Canterbury with neither justification nor authority is redefining Christianity in the light of this new hysteria. We are amidst a well-organised hypocracy which fires people for holding views not consistent with its current Maoist groupthink and disallows any form of debate, regardless of how reasoned it might be. The positions adopted by our seats of higher learning are disgraceful but at least are consistent with the bias promulgated by academia.

The conditions arising from our sudden dislocation from a familiar reality have been exacerbated by the ineptitude of a hapless government seeking to incarcerate a population unconvinced by the incessant propaganda and wishing only to have some parity with those of other nations not in thrall to the junk science deluding Boris and his cohorts.

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Old 29th Jun 2020, 23:41
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Bravo GQ!!!

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Old 30th Jun 2020, 05:17
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What GQ said. We really need a like button!
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 07:41
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Go along with GQís Maoist theory too - well said.

Last week there was a Change.Org petition circulating that opposed the wearing of BLM shirts by football players and the almost Ďcompulsoryí kneel before a game (tennis players were at it too last week) The originatorís valid argument was to keep politics out of sport; thereís already too much influence with money. This petition seems to be removed from every platform someone are posts it on.

There is a very disturbing trend emerging, that if you donít necessarily agree with the Ďparty narrativeí you are shut down immediately. I rarely venture into Twitter and Facebook but recently I got into an online disagreement on both mediums. Nothing aggressive, certainly not on my part, and Iím all for healthy debate and if Iím presented with a strong case, Iím willing to change my mind and admit I was wrong or incorrect and have done on several occasions. However, the amount of intransigent people out there is astounding. If you donít accept their philosophy unquestionably, youíre a racist, youíre guilty of oppression, white privilege etc. Iíve had it all. The accuser then Ďwinsí the argument by informing me Iím going to be Ďblocked or mutedí

I always think thatís a complete cop out and really rather childish.
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 08:10
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So called "liberals" are illiberal, those who believe themselves to be tolerant are frequently anything but when it comes to a different view. The measure of a person these days seems to be the number of likes or retweets they get on the latest cause cťlŤbre; then forget all about it and move on to the next one with the heady sense of self-righteousness gained through baying with the pack. There is no discussion, just "I'm right and you're wrong, STFU!" Bullying, which in my opinion is what most racism, sexism, homophobia, gingerism, body shaming - whatever attribute one person picks on to make another feel worthless really boils down to.
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 08:22
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Had an interesting conversation with a young chap who was doing some work for us yesterday. We were talking about the emphasis that just about every media outlet was putting on the BLM movement and I mentioned that I was getting so sick and tired of it that I wasn't bothering to look at some of the news any more. He immediately challenged me, saying that if I didn't watch the news about BLM then that itself was racist. Shades of "1984", where one is obliged to partake in a daily quota of propaganda.
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 08:25
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All the evidence you need is happening now on social media. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter are are deleting accounts that don't fit the narrative.
Now whether you agree or not with these people is entirely your prerogative, but they are moving to other platforms like Parlor and BitChute so they can express their opinions.
This leaves the YT, FB and TR as an echo chamber for the "woke" narrative. Eventually they will migrate to the new platforms so the process can repeat I'm sure.

Shutting down debate is wrong. Remember the uproar when Nick Griffin was asked to be on Question Time?
He's a far-right Nazi was the cry. It's a disgrace, etc. (like to point out here I do not support in any way NG or the BNP)
So on he came and guess what? - he was shot out of the water and subsequently the BNP faded away.
That's good, that's debate, pretending opposing views don't exist and deleting history is not going to end well.




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Old 30th Jun 2020, 22:35
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Why didn’t the players in tonight’s Premier League match not wear Black Lives Matter ion their shirts?
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 01:46
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"Black Lives Matter Too" would have been less aggressive and confrontational, and would have elicited much more sympathy worldwide, I reckon.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 04:58
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Letter in The Spectator

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...e-to-speak-out

Racial division is being sown in the name of anti-racism
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 05:08
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Letter in The Spectator

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...e-to-speak-out

Racial division is being sown in the name of anti-racism
*****Excellent article and well worth a read, I reckon. Thanks for posting.
There is more I would like to say on this subject but I have held back, believing that there will be a right time and place for it.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 08:10
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Why didnít the players in tonightís Premier League match not wear Black Lives Matter ion their shirts?
The prem is rowing back on BLM support big time after they tweeted about defunding the police and expressed blatant antisemitism.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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