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Old 14th Jun 2020, 09:27
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​​​​​​if true F^ck Google and their owners for being so spineless
Even the Daily Mail doesn't claim that Google are responsible for it.

It has all the signs of a hack, maybe even an inside job, but Google have made it clear it wasn't done by them.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 09:44
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Even the Daily Mail doesn't claim that Google are responsible for it.

It has all the signs of a hack, maybe even an inside job, but Google have made it clear it wasn't done by them.
Hence if true
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 09:57
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It has all the signs of a hack, maybe even an inside job, but Google have made it clear it wasn't done by them.
In which case why, many hours later, is he still missing? If it was a hack it shouldn’t take more than a couple of minutes to fix.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 10:04
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In which case why, many hours later, is he still missing? If it was a hack it shouldnít take more than a couple of minutes to fix.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 10:15
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Still missing 1940-45. Photo replaced for 51-55 since my last post.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=go...&client=safari

Since the entire date block 1940-1945 is missing their current excuse, that they link and get their photos from Wikipedia so it must be their fault doesn’t hold water.

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Old 14th Jun 2020, 10:33
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When the dust finally settles and we all look back at this how would you relate to it?
I would say it was a moment when some of the most stupid people in every demographic of our society came together to offer us their voice and in true form out shouted everyone and squandered what would have otherwise been a noble cause.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 10:39
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Political Correctness

Do we think it is possible that what we are seeing is a result of many years of large swathes of society being told what they should think?

Isnít it right that freedom of speech should extend to everybody even if we donít agree with what they have to say?

Wasnít freedom of speech cited as the reason the Finsbury Park Mosque Imams were allowed to spout off for so long?

Moving forward we need to listen to all of the protesters not just a select few. If we try to appease small sections of society we will alienate everybody else.

Isnít that the very definition of equality?!

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Old 14th Jun 2020, 10:49
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What Bob said. Where is the like button?
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 11:05
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Do we think it is possible that what we are seeing is a result of many years of large swathes of society being told what they should think?
orpeople being so brainwashed/braindead that they are incapable of thinking for themselves

Isn’t it right that freedom of speech should extend to everybody even if we don’t agree with what they have to say?
Freedom of speech is only of value if you have control of the method of propagation

Wasn’t freedom of speech cited as the reason the Finsbury Park Mosque Imams were allowed to spout off for so long?
or political cowardice at the possibility of accusations of racism

Moving forward we need to listen to all of the protesters not just a select few. If we try to appease small sections of society we will alienate everybody else.
In the future whether we're static or otherwise, listening to anything is no substitute for action. ("Lessons will be learned" ... Really?)

Isn’t that the very definition of equality?!
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 11:08
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Freedom of speech is only of value if you have control of the method of propagation
So, er, not exactly free then, eh?

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Old 14th Jun 2020, 11:11
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking View Post
Do we think it is possible that what we are seeing is a result of many years of large swathes of society being told what they should think?

Isnít it right that freedom of speech should extend to everybody even if we donít agree with what they have to say?

Wasnít freedom of speech cited as the reason the Finsbury Park Mosque Imams were allowed to spout off for so long?

Moving forward we need to listen to all of the protesters not just a select few. If we try to appease small sections of society we will alienate everybody else.

Isnít that the very definition of equality?!

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Very well said - I thank you.


The protestors seem also unaware that, for example, AQA's GSCE History does include in its curriculum the Atlantic slave trade and the ills of Britain's involvement in India and South Africa.

What is happening is that a highly organised far left movement is trying to change how history is taught in schools. Its aim is to recruit more young people under the banner of identity politics so it can cause division across society and gain power. It's a modern version of Marx's "class conflict" rebadged as the "fight for rights".

So, of course the far left would have us focus on the atrocities carried out by the British and blame it on racism alone. Take the Atlantic slave trade. Britain's crime was to industrialise an EXISTING slave trade. The ruling class in Africa had been enslaving people for thousands of years before the Europeans arrived (and they still do). The Europeans opened up a mass market for slaves for their colonies and the African ruling class exploited this as well. The driver for ALL in this wicked enterprise was wealth and status, racism was an enabler but it's worth noting that 3/4 of the world's population at the time was in some form of slavery, like white serfs in Russia.

Now the end of The Atlantic slave trade came about because of popular protest in Britain; 300,000 Britains refused to buy sugar farmed by slaves; the first mass consumer protest! The people of Britain en masse stood up against slavery because they were horrified by how slaves were abused just to make the rich richer.

But that sort of "telling of history" does not help the far left get power using the message that white Britain is fundamentally racist and only socialist change is the cure.

I don't seek to deny the atrocities of the British Empire nor absolve our blame. It's right that young people learn about it. And, yes, we did see this weekend incontrovertible evidence that racism exists in our country. BUT more importantly we have also seen over the last weeks proof positive that Britain as a nation abhors racism and that we will take a stand and fight against it.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 11:36
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Iím afraid your multi-coloured and fragmented method of posting leaves me unsure whether you agree or disagree with me.

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I think if Winston was still with us, he would have reiterated this:



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Old 14th Jun 2020, 13:22
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Still missing 1940-45. Photo replaced for 51-55 since my last post.
Churchill's 1940-45 premiership has always been missing from the Google carousel.

Ditto Baldwin's 1924-24 and 1924-29 terms, Macdonald 1924 and Wilson 1964-70.

Must be one h*ll of a conspiracy.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 14:40
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/118597...-blm-targeted/

Police force warns officers who donít kneel at Black Lives Matter rallies that they may be targeted by protesters
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 15:49
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/118597...-blm-targeted/

Police force warns officers who don’t kneel at Black Lives Matter rallies that they may be targeted by protesters
I wonder what comes next, Police Officers who don't keep out the way, stay in doors etc, may be targeted by protesters? Or has that all ready come to pass!?

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Old 14th Jun 2020, 15:59
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I suspect both the right wing soccer fan types, and the Grauniad reading Trots and Pinkoes all think that they, as individuals, are terribly clever. And thoughtful.

Now we know, they are just a mob. A Mob incited by the extremely enlightened Socialist Workers Party.

No doubt all the Trot actresses will be out supporting them next week. Once they have bought their new outfit.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 16:08
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking View Post
Do we think it is possible that what we are seeing is a result of many years of large swathes of society being told what they should think?

Isnít it right that freedom of speech should extend to everybody even if we donít agree with what they have to say?

Wasnít freedom of speech cited as the reason the Finsbury Park Mosque Imams were allowed to spout off for so long?

Moving forward we need to listen to all of the protesters not just a select few. If we try to appease small sections of society we will alienate everybody else.

Isnít that the very definition of equality?!

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Steady on Bob, that's not how baying mobs fed by Daily Express hyperbole work at all! What was the point of Farage getting all the room temperature IQs riled up over the last few years if it wasn't to demand mob justice against minorities? It seems we conveniently forget the British propensity to provide professional agitators and agents provocateur for any organised protest that occurs, but that's a very inconvenient narrative isn't it? No, far better to re-introduce the death penalty for vandalism than to examine the ethical and economic constructs of our society.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 16:14
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Goodness, Iíd assumed the story was hysterically made up but itís true! Presumably officers will be required to give hitler salutes when a right-wing mob asks them to?
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