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Blackburn Shooting 17 May2020

Old 23rd May 2020, 23:42
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Exclamation Blackburn Shooting 17 May2020

Apparently Aya Hachem victim of Blackburn shooting 17 May has now been buried in Lebanon

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-527...ace-in-lebanon

In current climate of COVID and associated travel restrictions this seems PDQ!!!

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Old 24th May 2020, 07:32
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He wasn't going to infect anybody with lead poisoning...
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Old 24th May 2020, 09:02
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Not wishing to be insensitive about someone's death, but how is ANYONE allowed to be transported ANYWHERE in these times to be buried/cremated ??? Have the draconian regulations changed whilst I was round the back of the shed having a crafty ciggy ? Last I heard even the relations were restricted from attending funerals. I'm confused....
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Old 24th May 2020, 09:08
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I don't see a problem with it. A body in a coffin sent abroad. Cargo is sent all over the place every day. If it was coming here to be buried, that might be a different matter.
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Old 24th May 2020, 09:13
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
He wasn't going to infect anybody with lead poisoning...
Rather tasteless and inaccurate post.

Described as truly remarkable the teenager was clearly highly regarded in her community.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-52678348
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Rather tasteless and inaccurate post.

Described as truly remarkable the teenager was clearly highly regarded in her community.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-52678348
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Old 24th May 2020, 10:32
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack View Post
Not wishing to be insensitive about someone's death, but how is ANYONE allowed to be transported ANYWHERE in these times to be buried/cremated ??? Have the draconian regulations changed whilst I was round the back of the shed having a crafty ciggy ? Last I heard even the relations were restricted from attending funerals. I'm confused....
It's not the transporting of the body that bothers me, nor where the funeral / burial took place. What alarmed me was the total lack of respect for social distancing that was on display, assuming the footage on BBC news this morning was of that funeral, not "library pictures". Forget 2m, there wasn't much more than 200mm social distancing, and I suspect that family members would, quite rightly, have traveled to the funeral. They will probably return to Blackburn, before the beginning of June, and probably not respect any sort of quarantine on their return; after all, nobody will instruct them to, and post Cummings they probably wouldn't see why they should anyway.
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Old 24th May 2020, 10:40
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The ethnic minorities in the area that I live, The Midlands, are reported by police as paying little or no attention to social distancing which may account for the fact that although the ethnic minorities only comprise 20% of the total population they do comprise 40% of deaths due to the virus.
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Old 24th May 2020, 10:56
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
He wasn't going to infect anybody with lead poisoning...
Who is "he" ?
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Old 24th May 2020, 11:17
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The ethnic minorities in the area that I live, The Midlands, are reported by police as paying little or no attention to social distancing which may account for the fact that although the ethnic minorities only comprise 20% of the total population they do comprise 40% of deaths due to the virus.
I was considering posting pretty well word for word what you have, but was concerned I could get banned for doing so! I find it somewhat odd that the police and councils are actively taking action against pubs that are holding lock-ins, but there have been no reports of Mosques, Temples, Synagogues or Churches being rumbled and similarly treated, but I'm pretty confident there are plenty, of all religions flouting the rules.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
I was considering posting pretty well word for word what you have, but was concerned I could get banned for doing so! I find it somewhat odd that the police and councils are actively taking action against pubs that are holding lock-ins, but there have been no reports of Mosques, Temples, Synagogues or Churches being rumbled and similarly treated, but I'm pretty confident there are plenty, of all religions flouting the rules.

Don't know about mosques, temples or synagogues, but I do know our local (C of E) vicar has been conducting all services and parish meetings online.
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Rather tasteless and inaccurate post.

Described as truly remarkable the teenager was clearly highly regarded in her community.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-52678348
I know - some people really can't help themselves, can they? Same old Jet Blast
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Old 25th May 2020, 22:05
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
I was considering posting pretty well word for word what you have, but was concerned I could get banned for doing so! I find it somewhat odd that the police and councils are actively taking action against pubs that are holding lock-ins, but there have been no reports of Mosques, Temples, Synagogues or Churches being rumbled and similarly treated, but I'm pretty confident there are plenty, of all religions flouting the rules.
I know of no Derby area church doing this but on the contrary, Derby Council are to some extent flouting the rules, since I have to take steps tomorrow to answer an 'urgent' (Tho' it was no such thing) notice from them, posted through the door of a church unused since lockdown.
Actually, did you know of any religious organisation breaking the rules, or were you just chucking some mud out to see if any stuck?
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but there have been no reports of Mosques, Temples, Synagogues or Churches being rumbled and similarly treated, but I'm pretty confident there are plenty, of all religions flouting the rules.
On this side of the pond, churches have gone out of their way not to fill up. Our local parish is allowed, by fire marshall coding, only 200 of the usual capacity (up to 800) and I've yet to see a Sunday morning with more than 100 show up in the last three weeks. The five weeks before that, to include Easter, nobody. Nobody. Shut down. empty.

And in an area not where I live, the Bishop in the Diocese of Dallas celebrated the Easter mass (the biggest mass of the Year) with a few deacons, an altar server, a few folks to do music, and Nobody Else. (It was streamed on line, of course).
Big empty building.
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.............. and no services in Churches, Synagogues or Mosques in Alsace either. Until 15 May all these buildings were closed as in shut and locked. Now some are open for private prayer, but no services. The point will be discussed and the outcome revealed on 2 June by Emmanuel Macron. There are online services, phone calls and TV broadcasts, and the bells ring on Sundays for people to join in prayer in their homes. But here, we're following the rules .... for our own safety and health and for that of others.
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Old 26th May 2020, 13:44
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Originally Posted by jimtherev View Post
I know of no Derby area church doing this but on the contrary, Derby Council are to some extent flouting the rules, since I have to take steps tomorrow to answer an 'urgent' (Tho' it was no such thing) notice from them, posted through the door of a church unused since lockdown.
Actually, did you know of any religious organisation breaking the rules, or were you just chucking some mud out to see if any stuck?
No absolutely not, however it would be surprising if some of the more zealous believers of any faith might view their fate was more in the hands of their God (s) than in their own actions to avoid transmission. I absolutely don't want to point a finger at any one religion but in Pakistan and Iran clerics and their followers believe their life is more in the hands of Allah and that He will keep them safe from infection. It would be naive to assume that Islam was the only religion that pedaled such blind faith.
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If you are fatalistic and believe God willed it, it becomes a matter of heresy to try and thwart the great plan. Not what I subscribe, but if you believe that, and many millions do, the eternal fate of your soul may weigh more heavily than the prescriptions of a local or national government ( not least if they don't share your faith). So it's understandable and sympathy should be allowed.
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Old 26th May 2020, 17:06
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If you are fatalistic and believe God willed it, it becomes a matter of heresy to try and thwart the great plan. Not what I subscribe, but if you believe that, and many millions do, the eternal fate of your soul may weigh more heavily than the prescriptions of a local or national government ( not least if they don't share your faith). So it's understandable and sympathy should be allowed.
Not necessarily where that blind faith leads to the deaths of a host of people who may not be quite so wedded to their faith as those disregarding rules / laws / guidance (delete which not applicable) and spreading infection far and wide.

Don't get me wrong, i feel the same about the selfish individuals who attend lock-ins at pubs.
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Yeah true enough but strong faith is in a different class than just selfishness isn't it? An eternity of damnation ( or missing out on the perks) is strong motivation and after all, other individuals are also part of God's plan so their fate will be decided by divine justice too. Not saying I subscribe to this but there is another dimension that's not part of my world view but nevertheless exists with sincerity.
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