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Old 5th May 2020, 08:48
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Airlines top priority

Just asking?
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Old 5th May 2020, 08:49
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Just asking what?
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Old 5th May 2020, 08:56
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After all the efforts to reduce the spread of the virus,it looks like 'business as usual' is top priority for some......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-52539141
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Old 5th May 2020, 09:02
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None of my flights to Dublin from Munich and back to Manchester have been anything like that full !!!
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Old 5th May 2020, 09:23
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If the passenger was so concerned, there was nothing preventing him from getting off and catching another flight!
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Old 5th May 2020, 09:34
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Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
If the passenger was so concerned, there was nothing preventing him from getting off and catching another flight!
Well indeed, we all have to do our own risk assessments, but I suppose once you've checked in and boarded it's a tad difficult to shout "Stop the (air) bus, I want to get off"!!
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Assuming the airline isn’t guaranteeing (for example) all middle seats left empty, then any traveller would be foolish to assume the flight wouldn’t be full, and address that risk as they see fit. I guess the ground staff weren’t forcing them into a tight bunch before boarding, so nothing to stop him hanging back from the crowd to minimise contact if he wished.

Airlines’ top priority - not going bust at the moment I would guess!
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Old 5th May 2020, 09:42
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Old 5th May 2020, 09:45
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I liked this bit

"In a statement, the airline said: "In light of the unexpectedly high loads on the Belfast London Heathrow service this morning and the level of demand for the route, Aer Lingus is reviewing its processes and procedures applicable to the operation of this service."

​​​​​'Unexpectedly' high loads?
Surely the airline booked them all on the same flight?
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Old 5th May 2020, 10:28
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Not much point in social distancing in an aircraft as the AC system is going to circulate any nasties pretty damn quick.
So do your own risk assessment...
Do you need to travel, yes / no
Am I reasonably healthy etc etc yes / no

If the answer is yes to both then crack on.
If the answer is no to either then zoom.

Not difficult really.
When the beaches of Spain open again, that risk assessment will be ignored by the offer of all you can eat and drink offerings of Malaga and Benidorm.
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Old 5th May 2020, 18:09
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Airlines Attitude to the Public Health Emergency

If proof was required that revenue comes before safety then this must be it.

We see here pictures of passengers crammed into aeroplanes without the slightest concern for their safety. What part of social distancing do the airlines and crew not understand !

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-sardines.html

Endangering the safety of Aircraft, Persons or Property ANO Articles 137 and 138 A person must not act in a way to endanger and aeroplane or anyone in it. The way these passengers have been seated together endangers them.

Pre-flight actions of the pilot in command ANO Article 86 requires that the load is safe in terms of its distribution.

Why do the CAA and the British Government allow this to continue ?
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Old 5th May 2020, 18:12
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Building anger on the BBC News site.

I’m off to see my 3yo grand daughter. I’ll just tell the cops if stopped that I’m a pax fresh off a Belfast LHR flight.

Social Distancing? Hah! We’re all mugs!

PS Moderator removed my post. Wonder why? Shamrock c/s? From an Irishman.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-52539141

Quick edit: at grand daughter’s! Cheers, Shamrock! 👍

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Old 5th May 2020, 18:43
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Originally Posted by Paul Rice View Post
If proof was required that revenue comes before safety then this must be it.

We see here pictures of passengers crammed into aeroplanes without the slightest concern for their safety. What part of social distancing do the airlines and crew not understand !

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-sardines.html

Endangering the safety of Aircraft, Persons or Property ANO Articles 137 and 138 A person must not act in a way to endanger and aeroplane or anyone in it. The way these passengers have been seated together endangers them.

Pre-flight actions of the pilot in command ANO Article 86 requires that the load is safe in terms of its distribution.

Why do the CAA and the British Government allow this to continue ?
Nobody forced these people to board or stay on board.

I find it remarkable these people stayed on board only to complain after the flight.

And if you know you will be in an inclosed space with others, maybe arrange protection yourself instead of expecting it from the airline.

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Old 5th May 2020, 18:44
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Originally Posted by the_stranger View Post
Nobody forced these people to board of stay on board.

I find it remarkable these people stayed on board only to complain after the flight.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northe...ment_139121764

BBC comments hotting up to detriment of Aer Lingus...
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Old 5th May 2020, 18:58
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Are you talking about the article subject or the paper that prints it?
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I'm mightily surprised with all colleagues lambasting the crews on said flights. It begs a question - would you have done better in their place and, if yes - how? By ordering half of the passengers to leave the aircraft?
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Old 5th May 2020, 19:33
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Originally Posted by PilotLZ View Post
I'm mightily surprised with all colleagues lambasting the crews on said flights. It begs a question - would you have done better in their place and, if yes - how? By ordering half of the passengers to leave the aircraft?
Not the crews - the Social Distancing Policy does not seem to apply to all.

Perhaps the crew were just as surprised on seeing the Load Sheet?

That said - it looks like the majority of Pax were male & maybe construction workers? Therefore essential.

Like Logan flying the Ship & Rig crews to & from Aberdeen?

Home. Visited grandwean. Thank you Aer Lingus & BA. Ill do my own thing now - discreetly of course - as these two airlines have led the way!

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Old 5th May 2020, 20:27
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Whats the danger? Stop being so dramatic.
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Quote.“Virologist at Queen's University, Conor Bamford, said that on a plane or in an airport "close connections with people would make it very straightforward for the virus to spread".

"The virus would be spread more from talking or breathing rather than recirculation of air in a plane," he told The Nolan Show.

"We might be lucky as there is not that much virus out there In the community but it is certainly not a risk you would want to be taking at this stage," he added”.

Guess this is why peeps are worried. However, only one virologist’s opinion. No evidence that it is contagious...🤧🤭😷

For balance & fairness to Aer Lingus, this article too on the BBC site:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52544307

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Old 5th May 2020, 21:18
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So you somehow separate passengers on board by 2m.
How does this help when the aircraft's air conditioning re-circulates all the cabin air many times?
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