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Old 23rd May 2020, 17:16
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I'm afraid it has reminded me of the Two Minutes Hate in Orwell's 1984, where everyone was compelled to join in. I have great respect for those who work in the NHS, and son and daughter are classed as key workers, but - as others have pointed out - some people have taken it too far and it has become a ritual. The problem with rituals is that it's easy to go through the motions without thinking about the reasons behind what you're doing.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 17:41
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Remind me why we clap.

Is it to congratulate them on doing a great job on little financial reward.?

Is it to congratulate them on surviving another week despite no real support from BJ and his team?

Is it to congratulate them on still going despite both the above.

What happens when we stop clapping?
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Old 23rd May 2020, 18:30
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while we support the clap I am glad, hope, it is to end. We forgot this last week, simply a lovely light evening and with no need of a time piece that was it.

One of the pleasant things about lockdown is the absence of day or time. "Will you be available at xxxx" for a telephone appointment? " Easy, not going anywhere, no need to check and coordinate diaries.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 19:20
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Curmudgeons, the lot of you "antis". Politics have nothing to do with this. The NHS have quite literally and very recently saved my life. I've continued to clap promptly, loudly and sincerely and so have my close family. At this time I can do little else to show my personal appreciation for what they do.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 19:54
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As far as I know, none of this clapping has been going on in my village and even if there was, I wouldn't have participated. There are no hospitals anywhere near and the only nursing uniforms I've seen are those from the local med centre, who aren't front-line Covid staff. I don't understand the point of these scheduled displays of gratitude if there are no recipients there to hear them unless it's to make the contributors feel better in themselves. The florists made a fortune out of that mawkism when the Princess of Wales died..
I do appreciate the NHS and I'll occasionally (and anonymously) drop off chocolates or boxes of biscuits at the surgery at Christmas-time or if I have to return to hospital for an outpatient's appointment. Little things like that can cheer a day up for under-valued teams. I know because I've been on the receiving end.
B*gg*er obligation by peer pressure.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 20:10
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Yes the NHS are only doing their job that also carries a risk to themselves in normal rimes, like the Police Fire Ambulance and Military
They are there only to help me and you.
So why not show them 2 minutes appreciation for 10 weeks? Not like you have anything else to do.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 21:30
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Iím probably about unleash the hounds of hell upon myself, but no one is conscripted into the NHS. This is what the employees signed up for and theyíre just doing their job. Iím not denying there are times when itís tough - but so are many other jobs on occasion. I have had many positive experiences with the NHS and also some pretty negative ones too. Sloppy nursing, poor decision making by doctors, high handed consultants. We are lucky to have a nationalised health service but itís not a sacred cow and this current portrayal of the staff by some sections of the media has a definite whiff of the sort of propaganda you would expect to see in a totalitarian state. Squared jawed doctors, doe eyed nurses. On one hand we have images of exhausted staff slumped in corridors and on the other, inane clips of employees dancing in empty wards with not a patient in sight.

Iím sorry. Iím just not completely comfortable with it.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 21:56
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I do appreciate the NHS and I'll occasionally (and anonymously) drop off chocolates or boxes of biscuits at the surgery at Christmas-time or if I have to return to hospital for an outpatient's appointment. Little things like that can cheer a day up for under-valued teams. I know because I've been on the receiving end.
But this certainly can't be done right now.

I’m sorry. I’m just not completely comfortable with it.
Do you not show appreciation where it's due? There were undoubtedly service personnel in the World Wars who were perhaps undeserving of being given the privilege of a 2 minutes silence, but we still do that a century on.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 22:50
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Originally Posted by BehindBlueEyes View Post
Iím probably about unleash the hounds of hell upon myself, but no one is conscripted into the NHS. This is what the employees signed up for and theyíre just doing their job. Iím not denying there are times when itís tough - but so are many other jobs on occasion. I have had many positive experiences with the NHS and also some pretty negative ones too. Sloppy nursing, poor decision making by doctors, high handed consultants. We are lucky to have a nationalised health service but itís not a sacred cow and this current portrayal of the staff by some sections of the media has a definite whiff of the sort of propaganda you would expect to see in a totalitarian state. Squared jawed doctors, doe eyed nurses. On one hand we have images of exhausted staff slumped in corridors and on the other, inane clips of employees dancing in empty wards with not a patient in sight.

Iím sorry. Iím just not completely comfortable wih nightth it.
My sentiments entirely
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Old 23rd May 2020, 23:44
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash View Post
Yes the NHS are only doing their job that also carries a risk to themselves in normal rimes, like the Police Fire Ambulance and Military
They are there only to help me and you.
So why not show them 2 minutes appreciation for 10 weeks? Not like you have anything else to do.
Kiltrash: Please read my second and third sentences again and then tell me how I can show them two minutes appreciation if they're not even there. I might as well stand in the middle of Dartmoor and clap.
I wouldn't be pressured into it by my neighbours anyway. I'll show my recognition in other forms, just as I put a couple of quid in the annual Poppy Appeal box but don't wear one.
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Old 24th May 2020, 00:40
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What I find ironic is the lack of social distancing seen in some communities during these claps.
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Old 24th May 2020, 04:45
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What I find ironic is the lack of social distancing seen in some communities during these claps.
Herd clapping will eventually lead to herd immunity. Support the NHS by keeping both going.
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Old 24th May 2020, 09:21
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
Curmudgeons, the lot of you "antis". Politics have nothing to do with this. The NHS have quite literally and very recently saved my life. I've continued to clap promptly, loudly and sincerely and so have my close family. At this time I can do little else to show my personal appreciation for what they do.
You could write a personal hand written note to the hospital that treated you expressing your gratitude and enclosing a donation. That would be an adult and dignified gesture and not a highly public and childish demonstration of virtue signalling.
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Old 24th May 2020, 09:39
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Originally Posted by BehindBlueEyes View Post
Iím probably about unleash the hounds of hell upon myself, but no one is conscripted into the NHS. This is what the employees signed up for and theyíre just doing their job. Iím not denying there are times when itís tough - but so are many other jobs on occasion. I have had many positive experiences with the NHS and also some pretty negative ones too. Sloppy nursing, poor decision making by doctors, high handed consultants. We are lucky to have a nationalised health service but itís not a sacred cow and this current portrayal of the staff by some sections of the media has a definite whiff of the sort of propaganda you would expect to see in a totalitarian state. Squared jawed doctors, doe eyed nurses. On one hand we have images of exhausted staff slumped in corridors and on the other, inane clips of employees dancing in empty wards with not a patient in sight.

Iím sorry. Iím just not completely comfortable with it.
Hear, hear !
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Old 24th May 2020, 09:42
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
But this certainly can't be done right now.



Do you not show appreciation where it's due? There were undoubtedly service personnel in the World Wars who were perhaps undeserving of being given the privilege of a 2 minutes silence, but we still do that a century on.
Two minutes silence ? That, is connected with commemoration and remembrance.
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Old 24th May 2020, 10:38
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
Do you not show appreciation where it's due? There were undoubtedly service personnel in the World Wars who were perhaps undeserving of being given the privilege of a 2 minutes silence, but we still do that a century on.
Yes, but just once a year, which amplifies the significance.

The weekly applause for key workers was initially welcome and uplifting but has become a bit tiresome. Even many NHS staff accept that the time has come to end the ritual.
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Old 24th May 2020, 11:45
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If a tree falls in a forest does it make a noise?

I live in an isolated house in the country. If I clap at my door and there is nobody in earshot, am I really clapping?

Nobody will ever know
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Old 24th May 2020, 11:55
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Originally Posted by Capt Kremmen View Post
You could write a personal hand written note to the hospital that treated you expressing your gratitude and enclosing a donation. That would be an adult and dignified gesture and not a highly public and childish demonstration of virtue signalling.
Despite what you think in your great arrogance..Already done, thanks. I also thanked the consultant verbally in person by telephone and with a personal note.
Sounds like you are someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

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Old 24th May 2020, 15:34
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Hopefully this new found appreciation of NHS staff will continue long after the clapping stops,and there will be a greatly reduced number of abuse and assaults carried out in A&E departments,not to mention the stoning of ambulance / fire crews in areas where murals of masked nurses now adorn the walls......
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Old 24th May 2020, 15:56
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Everyone around here has got the clap.


(We have to - we have two Docs in our short close)
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