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I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose vote

Old 4th Apr 2020, 08:19
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I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose vote

Remember those good old days? When we laughed at the idea of Trump being responsible for just one death in NYC, and none of his supporters caring.

47% of Americans approve of Trump's response to the pandemic

Any suggestions of anything he could do to loose his core support? I suggest repealing the 2nd amendment or ending all restrictions on abortions would do it. Which would mean that all he has to do to stay in power is not do either of those things, while convincing his people that his opposition will do both. He can **** up everything else without consequences.
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 11:55
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I would imagine the way it’s out of control in the US the virus will take out a large number of his supporters. Especially with the scamvangelical lot having church gatherings.
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 12:10
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I read somewhere the other day that Democrats tend to be urban dwellers while Republicans were more commonly found out in the wilds (gross generalisation, I know). If that is true it is more likely that the Democrat demographic will decline as a consequence of covid-19.
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 13:34
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I would not wish CoViD on anyone, and my suspicion is that in the end, this will end-up affecting everyone more-or-less the same.

In fact, if I am honest, even Trump's breathtaking incompetence may not make much difference in the long term. We wait to see how much difference there will be between different strategies.
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 15:53
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I would imagine the way itís out of control in the US the virus will take out a large number of his supporters. Especially with the scamvangelical lot having church gatherings.
Why do churchgoers feel the need to worship an omnipotent God who seems happy to allow the visitation of a disease which is devastating the lives of his human creations? Why is this God apparently ignoring all the prayers asking for alleviation from pestilence, war, poverty, intolerance and other human tribulations?
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 17:34
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Why do churchgoers feel the need to worship an omnipotent God who seems happy to allow the visitation of a disease which is devastating the lives of his human creations? Why is this God apparently ignoring all the prayers asking for alleviation from pestilence, war, poverty, intolerance and other human tribulations?
My guess: the churchgoers still derive some comfort from their belief in a benevolent deity, which will ultimately give life's bad guys their comeuppance.

My view: the creating force does not possess any particular moral bias. It seeks merely to explore all possible permutations of creation: all experiences, situations, individuals. It encompasses all, because it is all.

Not exactly a comforting view, granted. But I find it requires far less excuses and convoluted attempts at explanations than the churchgoers' model.
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 18:37
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Yet the bible has clear instructions on what to do when this happens

Go. My people, come into your chambers and close your door about you hide for but a moment. until the wrath passes.

also from the commandments

These are my rules live by them do not die by them.

Therefore to protect life you may break any of the over 600 commandments
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 18:44
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Originally Posted by John Marsh View Post
My guess: the churchgoers still derive some comfort from their belief in a benevolent deity, which will ultimately give life's bad guys their comeuppance.

My view: the creating force does not possess any particular moral bias. It seeks merely to explore all possible permutations of creation: all experiences, situations, individuals. It encompasses all, because it is all.

Not exactly a comforting view, granted. But I find it requires far less excuses and convoluted attempts at explanations than the churchgoers' model.

John, your comment (the part about: "It seeks merely to explore all possible permutations of creation: all experiences, situations, individuals) got me thinking about Nick Bostrum and his "Simulation Hypothesis". But that's too much thread drift I suppose.
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 20:12
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Older male voters tend both to prefer Trump and seem more vulnerable to Covid19.

This may turn out to be an anti Trump virus that flips some swing states.
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 20:53
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It's always seemed to me that when bad things happen to religious zealots it's their god testing their faith, but when something bad happens to someone they don't like it's always divine wrath.

My 98 year-old father's caretakers are fundamentalist christian retired nurses from Kenya and spout the usual anti-gay, etc bigotry and point out that California earthquakes are punishment and all that rot. To be naughty I told them that god only punishes as he did in scripture, and the sign he's really pissed off is when he sends plagues of locusts. I said that their part of Africa is being punished for being so presumptuous as to take judgement into their own hands, and that they had better take a hard look at their behavior. It didn't go over well but I doubt they'll preach around me anymore.
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 21:41
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towrope I like your style, had a good laugh about that story!!

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Old 4th Apr 2020, 22:01
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Ask them if they're wearing mixed fibres (they will be) then say you're going to stone them to death as per Leviticus!
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 22:14
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We wait to see how much difference there will be between different strategies.
Lets just do that, it seems as we've forgotten or dont know the cause?
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Old 4th Apr 2020, 23:17
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This may turn out to be an anti Trump virus that flips some swing states
And that's the weird thing about t he US, because it's not a popular vote to elect the president (though it 100% SHOULD be) it all comes down to a few "swing states

Forget about campaigning in Texas, Oklahoma, New York, California etc etc all you have to do is to nudge the needle in those places. It's a RIDICULOUS system and needs to end
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 00:14
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You euros should probably start accepting Allah as your savior, see you at the mandatory daily Mosque mixers.
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 00:22
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Seems like your bible thumping evangelists have a head start on those mandatory gatherings.
Good luck with the ensuing spike and onslaught on your decrepit medical system.

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Old 5th Apr 2020, 00:27
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The Great Creator (no, not Trump) wasn't averse to wiping out the populace - plagues, pestilence, flood the planet, drop brimstone on cities and so on. "Loves everybody"?? Hah.
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 00:39
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Why isn't this in the Hamsterwheel thread?
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 01:43
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Seems like your bible thumping evangelists have a head start on those mandatory gatherings.
Good luck with the ensuing spike and onslaught on your decrepit medical system.
No, I don't live in Italy or Spain.
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 01:44
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The better question is why it is not simply closed and done away with.

I do a lot of trolling in my boat in search of that 75 Pound King Mackerel.....why does the OP think by putting up an inflammatory title then baiting the lure with bad bait that he shall not be seen for what he is doing?

Yet...here we are....folks taking it in hook, line, and planner.

I suppose some fish just cannot resist the shine and dance of lure dragged in front of their nose.

It is far better sport to sight cast with a surface lure....but that takes a bit of skill and keen eyesight to properly locate the target and place the lure in the right place to catch the fish's attention.


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