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Old 26th Mar 2020, 17:14
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When the virus goes what do we restart first......

Pubs obviously but it's going to be a staged restart I'd guess:-

1. Hospitlas

2. Doctors

3. Child care

4. Schools

5. all local food stores

6. Rail & underground

7. takeaways

8. Offices

9. Shops

10. Restaurants

11. Air transport

12. Sport and theatres etc


4.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 17:22
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The question would seem to imply some essential, or even desirable, necessity to have them open sequentially.

Whilst it might be necessary, for example, to reopen airports before airlines start flying again; I would suggest most, if not all, of the above would reopen simultaneously once restrictions are lifted.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 17:29
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It wouldn't surprise me if some things restarted in a radically different way to we are used to. I rather think that air travel may be both impacted by the behavioural changes that arise from this (people getting used to home working, video/tele conferencing etc) and by some reluctance by some people to risk foreign travel, given what's happened over the past few weeks.

Like wise, some sectors of the leisure industry may not recover at all, or if they do, perhaps slowly. Cruise operators, for example, may find it challenging, given the problems some have seen with their ships being locked down for long periods.

Be nice to think that everything might just bounce back to normal, as we knew it, when this is over, but I rather think that normal may have irrevocably changed as a result of this.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 18:02
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This is one version of a possible future, as it is in the future, nobody really knows.

https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/a319...irus-timeline/
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 19:47
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Well we won’t need any toilet rolls or tissues on the shelves, as all the scumbags who hoarded them will be trying to flog them off half price.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 19:53
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It wouldn't surprise me if some things restarted in a radically different way to we are used to. I rather think that air travel may be both impacted by the behavioural changes that arise from this (people getting used to home working, video/tele conferencing etc) and by some reluctance by some people to risk foreign travel, given what's happened over the past few weeks.

Like wise, some sectors of the leisure industry may not recover at all, or if they do, perhaps slowly. Cruise operators, for example, may find it challenging, given the problems some have seen with their ships being locked down for long periods.

Be nice to think that everything might just bounce back to normal, as we knew it, when this is over, but I rather think that normal may have irrevocably changed as a result of this.
Things must change because of the virus. Perhaps companies, who are on a less well upholstered base than before, will want their staff to transact on video-links due to cost and convenience. Areas that need a personal visit will still go ahead, but on a case by case basis. Perhaps conventions etc will be sidelined for years and other corporate jollies ?

I'd imagine that the cruise industry, especially the LARGE ship sector will find it really challenging to convince customers to return again, bearing in mind the propensity of said colonies to propagate maladies (gastro-intestinal) let alone things more serious as of the last few months. Will people really want to holiday in close proximity to several thousand others ? If the price is right perhaps, but it won't be easy.

It's hard to predict just how the coronavirus will affect the psychology of the populace, people who have lost loved ones, lost jobs, businesses and homes might not want to partake in leisure activities for some years.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 08:58
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Agreed - I wouldn't want to be selling cruises right now BUT in a year or so if they do a Ryanair and cut the prices to the bone people will come back

I do think it will be a sequential restart - no-one is going to risk moving form Stay AT Home to 60,000 people inside a football ground in one go.......
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 09:49
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I posted the below on another thread, and the comments seem pertinent here as well with regards to conference calls etc

Anyway as far as Sallyanne comment on Zoom etc we use them a lot as a company, and personally have been using video conferencing since late 80,s when you needed video conferencing suites to do it, but I was still doing a minimum of 2 transatlantic s a month regardless, as people want to interact with you, and know you, and watching a monitor does not appear to work as well as the makers and suppliers would like because we are human. Therefore I do think Business travel will come back, but leisure maybe a little slower, and more so at the lower end of the market as that section of society will financially hurt the most as ever. Personally we have already got two LH holidays planned for later this year, and I have 6 LH Business trips assuming we get back into work in late May. All this assumes of course that we do not leave the game due to the Corona virus, but I work on controlling the controllable, and not worry unduly about things I have little control off , (and I went through SARS in Hong Kong), so this is my second time through this type of thing, and no it does not make it any easier. As an aside I would say the UK attempts at control are far worse than those in Hong Kong, not enough public sanitise-rs on public transport / stations etc probably get stolen in UK in current climate !.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 09:56
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Simple answer from a simple bloke - PUBS first.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 10:03
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Originally Posted by UniFoxOs View Post
Simple answer from a simple bloke - PUBS first.
I'll drink to that! Though I might leave it for a few days, let the rush subside a little...
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 15:37
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Since this thing may become an annual norm, will cruises ever regain confidence?
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 16:05
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I predict a huge increase in internet forums with multiple threads all discussing the same subject
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 16:13
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I'm wondering where gyms/health clubs fit in to the order?
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 16:15
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I love your lists and your ideas ... but could we start with the basics ... the right to leave our houses for the reasons we choose without having to carry a government-required permission slip and the right to walk further than a 1 km radius from our domicile.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 16:36
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We should restart things in a chronological order.

So that would be The Oldest Profession first
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 16:41
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Originally Posted by Mariner9 View Post
We should restart things in a chronological order.

So that would be The Oldest Profession first
Only to find out they'd been replaced by video conferencing too




So I've heard
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 17:00
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Originally Posted by Mariner9 View Post
We should restart things in a chronological order.

So that would be The Oldest Profession first
I was propositioned by a lady on the 16th of March in Budapest, the night before they went into partial lockdown (it was already a ghost town by then).
I felt a little sorry for her but concluded that being robbed and beaten wasn't exactly a "nice time".
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 00:53
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I'm pretty sure it will be a staged restart - we can't afford the risk of a full restart and then having a second wave of infections putting us back where we were. The first to start should be those of greatest necessity and least risk. See how that goes for a couple of weeks, and if there's no 'bounce', go for the next, and so on. If, at any stage, there is a bounce, step back immediately. Hopefully, eventually we'll get to the point down the line, where pretty well everything can be opened safely. Whether this will be because of a vaccine, or because there is herd immunity, or because the disease dies out as quickly as it came about (unlikely) who knows.
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 00:59
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Originally Posted by Hydromet View Post
................... The first to start should be those of greatest necessity and least risk. ................
Precisely the title of this thread.
So how would you rank them?
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 01:06
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
Pubs obviously but it's going to be a staged restart I'd guess:-

1. Hospitlas

2. Doctors

3. Child care
Interesting that you rank child care as No. 3

I'd have thought that the sequence for that would be ;

Job ==> Money ==> Child care

and not the other way around.


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