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Old 20th Feb 2020, 15:23
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how to improve one's vocabulary: shisha bar

Thanks to a shooting in Hanau, Germany, I now know what a shisha bar is**.

Very sorry to hear of this multiple homicide.

I glean from some early reports from the German police are pretty sure that the perp offed himself.
Now if only he'd just done that first ...


**Around here, the friend of mine who opened one called it a hookah bar. It has since closed; tough market in the anti-smoking crazed US, though I guess there are doing well in other places.
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Old 20th Feb 2020, 15:54
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Thread probably needs renaming.

Reported as xenophobic right-wing attack. 40 year old who killed 8 in two attacks and then returned home and first killed his mother and then himself.
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Old 20th Feb 2020, 16:06
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ORAC, I chose that title for my own reasons.
Given that the reports were early, I chose not to delve into speculation as to motive.
It may be as you note, per some later reports.
All that does is make bad news worse, I think.
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Old 20th Feb 2020, 19:18
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9 dead by extreme right wing nut case. I think it would be better to change the thread title in the circumstances, as I can tell you living in Germany part time, that there is a deep well of anger about what a small, but vocal section of this society and their hangers on represent. Its not clever to play with "vocabulary improvement" in the circumstances.

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Old 20th Feb 2020, 19:50
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9 dead by extreme right wing nut case. I think it would be better to change the thread title in the circumstances, as I can tell you living in Germany part time, that there is a deep well of anger about what a small, but vocal section of this society and their hangers on represent. Its not clever to play with "vocabulary improvement" in the circumstances.

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At the time that I read the initial story, there was no confirmation on what was behind this, and I do not like to leap to conclusions.
First reports often contain errors (recall the initial reaction the MH370 ... they went looking for it in the South China Sea ..)
As of this writing, I can't go back and change the title, so I won't, nor will I ask a mod to.
I am also not a fan posting attention grabbing head lines, as suggested by yourself and ORAC.
That's a matter of personal taste: we each have our own tastes in that regard.

Thanks for the feedback.

Until I had read that news story, I'd never even seen the term "shisha bar."
So simply reading the news was, for me, an educational opportunity.
It is very unfortunate, and it genuinely saddens me, that this opportunity is coupled with a multiple homicide in Germany - a country where I lived for six years of my life.
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Where's a Mod when you need one...
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Old 20th Feb 2020, 20:28
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Lonewolf_50...

Now that you do know the details of the event are you still saying you think the thread title is fine and should not be changed? If so, I despair.

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Old 20th Feb 2020, 22:21
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Good on you Lonewolf. Nothing offensive about what you wrote.
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Old 21st Feb 2020, 00:18
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Lonewolf_50...
Now that you do know the details of the event are you still saying you think the thread title is fine and should not be changed? If so, I despair.
Well, you raise a valid point. What we learn later is a thing, yeah.
I am not trying to create outrage. It was kinda surreal, to be honest with you. I am sitting there, reading a news feed, and I read that some people had been shot in a shisha bar and I had this moment of utter incomprehension. I had no context to reach for and grab.
What the hell is that?
Once I looked it up, I at least had comprehension of the place of the happening, and, once I understood that I had a moment of connection since a friend of mine had opened a hookah bar a bit over ten years ago; his entire theme was "nice place for people to gather and have a smoke together, some tea, and to relax after a stressful day." (He eventually had to close, it didn't work out). That connection gave this tragic story a very different feel to me.

I am sure that in Germany, people are (understandably) very upset at this piece of for having shot up a place where people go to have a good time and enjoy a smoke together.
Maybe if I'd posted a few hours later after more info had come in, I'd have had a different feel on this very sad story.
My mom and dad are still in touch with the German family whom we got to know back in the early 60's, and with whom we have been sharing letters and Christmas cards ever since. Because I feel and care about things in Germany, since I lived there, is why I bothered to post at all.
I rarely initiate threads.

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[/QUOTE]Good on you Lonewolf. Nothing offensive about what you wrote.
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Totally agree, no apology needed. Nowt so queer as folk. ( traditional Yorkshire saying )

I had the same reaction myself, i.e. WTF is a Shisha Bar,

However sad the event it's almost a daily event now. World's Gone Mad. Thanks for adding to my vocabulary.
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