Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

Coronavirus: The Thread

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

Coronavirus: The Thread

Old 1st Aug 2021, 20:21
  #16801 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 12,555
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/covi...t-b948678.html

Covid infections down to 24,470 - with deaths falling to 65

The number of new Covid infections has fallen for the eleventh day in a row, figures released on Sunday show, with deaths also decreasing.

According to government data, the UK has recorded 24,470 new Covid cases and a further 65 deaths in the latest 24 hour-periods

This means it is the eleventh day in a row that infection rates have fallen…..
ORAC is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2021, 20:35
  #16802 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 12,555

ORAC is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2021, 20:37
  #16803 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 505
Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/covi...t-b948678.html

Covid infections down to 24,470 - with deaths falling to 65

The number of new Covid infections has fallen for the eleventh day in a row, figures released on Sunday show, with deaths also decreasing.

According to government data, the UK has recorded 24,470 new Covid cases and a further 65 deaths in the latest 24 hour-periods

This means it is the eleventh day in a row that infection rates have fallen…..
No it isn't
01-08-2021 24,470
31-07-2021 26,144
30-07-2021 29,622
29-07-2021 31,117
28-07-2021 27,734
27-07-2021 23,511
26-07-2021 24,950
25-07-2021 29,173
23-07-2021 36,389
22-07-2021 39,906
21-07-2021 44,104

Ninthace is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2021, 20:42
  #16804 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: EU
Posts: 531
Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/covi...t-b948678.html

Covid infections down to 24,470 - with deaths falling to 65

The number of new Covid infections has fallen for the eleventh day in a row, figures released on Sunday show, with deaths also decreasing.

According to government data, the UK has recorded 24,470 new Covid cases and a further 65 deaths in the latest 24 hour-periods

This means it is the eleventh day in a row that infection rates have fallen…..
This is just too easy.

Originally Posted by ORAC
If the best you can come up with is total lies I’ll put you on my ignore list.
Theholdingpoint is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2021, 20:50
  #16805 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 12,555
I suggest you look at the rolling 7 day average. As repeated ad nauseam here the daily figures mean little as the data does not reflect the actual date of reporting as this fluctuates due to administrative reasons, it’s the average which counts - and it’s fallen for the 11th day running.

If you want to put me on your ignore list - be my guest….

ORAC is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2021, 20:59
  #16806 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 505
Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
I suggest you look at the rolling 7 day average….


That is not what the article you quoted said.


See also where the 7 day average ends. You cannot cite the number of cases for today and the 7 day average. By inspection, the 7 day average has not fallen for 11 days either

Last edited by Ninthace; 1st Aug 2021 at 21:15. Reason: clarity
Ninthace is offline  
Old 1st Aug 2021, 22:20
  #16807 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 505
YouTube bans Sky News Austalia for Covid misinformation

Would have expected better, even from a Murdoch product.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-58045787
Ninthace is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 00:19
  #16808 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by SASless
Do you want untested and un-vaccinated strangers deposited in your neighborhood or would you rather those dropping them off see to their testing and vaccinations first?

If you can respond to that question and tell us that you have no problem if it was your neighborhood, village, or town that was happening in.....then I would question your thinking on the matter.
Now I know where you got it from

Ninthace is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 01:25
  #16809 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Deplorable but happy as a drunken Monkey!
Age: 73
Posts: 17,029
I do not subscribe to a Cable TV service so I am not a follower of Fox News....there are better sources available to me through my past employment in Federal Law Enforcement and the Associations and related groups I of which I am a member.

It will probably surprise you but I did not even view what you linked...as I have no interest in that loud mouthed Scalawag (Southern usage Ya'll!").

As an aside....where I live in a quiet coastal area we did not welcome outsiders from around the State during the early days of Covid.....we are way off the beaten path and we did not want them to import the virus to us.

The early onset of the virus tracked along the many Interstate Highways (Motorways) which makes sense if one has any notion of Vector spread of disease.

The next County up put up Road Blocks manned by Sheriff Deputies to enforce their reverse quarantine....that being keeping outsiders away from the local folk as it is mostly a group of islands.

That was something I endorsed. Thus I by nature I apply that same thinking to foreigners entering the Country.....without being assured they are Covid free and are vaccinated.

I am equally opposed to it locally as I am internationally.

But back to the question I asked you....and you brought back up....would you want those untested/un-vaccinated persons deposited in your neighborhood or village with no quarantine ahead of their arrival?
SASless is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 07:12
  #16810 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 505
If you did not watch it you rather missed the point. Have a look.
To answer your second point. We are subject to the uncontrolled arrival of large numbers of strangers of unknown vaccination status in numbers larger than you are worried about. Round here we call them grockles, you would call them vacationers. We just live with it.
Ninthace is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 07:27
  #16811 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 12,555
Piers Corbyn the most prominent leader of the UK anti-Vaxxer movement…

ORAC is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 15:07
  #16812 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Deplorable but happy as a drunken Monkey!
Age: 73
Posts: 17,029
The arguments for and against vaccinations, for and against government actions, government utilization of private businesses, and public scorning by media, and other means to coerce people to take the vaccinations are growing in the United States.

Professor Jonathan Turley, my favorite "Liberal" Constitutional Scholar has been focusing upon Free Speech issues in his daily Blog.

For reference sakes....he is a Man of Principle and has stood up for the Little Guy against government and won, testified before Congress and told the Democrats they were messing up in their efforts to Impeach Trump AND told them how to do it successfully, he has. been a contributor to several Cable News Outlets, and is a frequent Witness to various Congressional Committees as an Expert Witness on various issues.

This is his latest Blog entry about Covid....agree or disagree with the Professor....his article offers much insight into the situation today re the Vaccine and its reception by the Public and the efforts to coerce people to take it.

Reading down through the Comments is also useful....and as at Jet Blast....be prepared for a variance of views by those commenting and as here....one is wise to separate the wheat from the chaff.

https://jonathanturley.org/2021/08/0...r/#more-176587
SASless is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 15:20
  #16813 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: UK
Age: 51
Posts: 0
Originally Posted by Ninthace View Post
Rather sells the idea of vaccination doesn't it?
There is one way I would like to see covid be like flu. People getting their shots without bitching about it.
Maybe not. There are very few people under the age of 40-50 who ever get a flu shot.
highflyer40 is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 16:58
  #16814 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 12,555
NHS App being modified.

https://order-order.com/2021/08/02/n...olation-pings/

News just in from the Department for Health who have finally decided to tweak the NHS Covid app to reduce the state of the ping-demic. Unlike what was floated a few weeks ago, the sensitivity hasn’t been changed, however the number of days close contacts are counted for has been reduced:

Currently, for people who input a positive test but are asymptomatic, the app looks for close contacts five days prior to a positive test. This will be updated based on public health advice to look back at contacts two days prior to a positive test.

The change will mean fewer contacts that took place when the positive case was unlikely to be at the peak of their infectiousness are advised to self-isolate, reducing the overall number of notifications sent by the app.

This update does not impact the sensitivity of the app, or change the risk threshold, and will result in the same number of high-risk contacts being advised to self-isolate.
ORAC is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 17:35
  #16815 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 180
Originally Posted by highflyer40 View Post
Maybe not. There are very few people under the age of 40-50 who ever get a flu shot.
On the other hand maybe few of them get offered the chance.

I never dreamt of getting a flu shot until my company offered it to its workforce on an annual basis, which was done on-site with minimal disruption. Seemed a win-win offer to most people.
Peter H is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 17:40
  #16816 (permalink)  
Gnome de PPRuNe
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Too close to Croydon for comfort
Age: 57
Posts: 9,215
Same for me - we were offered flu jabs free at work for a number of years, I always had one probably for a decade or more. It was withdrawn when company money troubles surfaced and so I didn't get another until offered one in the over 50s programme last autumn.
treadigraph is online now  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 18:08
  #16817 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 12,555
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-12-drop.html

Britain's daily Covid cases today fell to a five-week low, with just 21,952 positive tests recorded across the nation.

Department of Health figures show the number of infections is 12 per cent down on last week, as the third wave continues to slow.

Meanwhile, deaths – which lag several weeks behind cases – continued to rise. Another 24 victims were posted today, compared to 14 last Monday.

But in a sign that fatalities may start to flatten out or even fall within the next week, Covid hospital admissions fell by nearly 20 per cent in England. ….
ORAC is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 18:22
  #16818 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 12,555
The question being, once the delta version is loose in the community, what can stop it? Already in a dozen provinces and spreading.

China has been vaccinating - ROUND 60% of their adult population to date - but the efficiency of their vaccines is reported to be marginal.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...covid-outbreak

Millions under strict lockdown in China after Covid outbreak

Millions of people have been confined to their homes in China as the country tries to contain its largest coronavirus outbreak in months with mass testing and travel curbs.

China reported 55 new locally transmitted coronavirus cases on Monday as an outbreak of the fast-spreading Delta variant reached more than 20 cities and more than a dozen provinces.

Local governments in major cities including Beijing have now tested millions of residents, while cordoning off residential compounds and placing close contacts under quarantine.

The capital city has cut all rail, bus and air links with areas where coronavirus cases have been found, and closed its doors to tourists during the peak summer holiday travel season. Only “essential travellers” are allowed to enter, if they have a negative nucleic acid test.

On Sunday city officials called for residents not to leave Beijing “unless necessary”…….

ORAC is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 22:35
  #16819 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Bucharest
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
This view was backed by Prof James Naismith, director of the Rosalind Franklin Institute in Oxford. “We won’t see Covid-19 spread like wildfire again. There will be enough herd immunity in the population to ensure it will never kick off like that again.
Meanwhile:

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/lifestyle/...?ocid=msedgntp

Delta spreads 'like wildfire' as doctors study whether it makes patients sicker
[...]
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned that Delta, first identified in India and now dominant worldwide, is "likely more severe" than earlier versions of the virus, according to an internal report made public on Friday.
The agency cited research in Canada, Singapore and Scotland showing that people infected with the Delta variant were more likely to be hospitalized than patients earlier in the pandemic.
MikeSnow is offline  
Old 2nd Aug 2021, 22:42
  #16820 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Bucharest
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by SASless View Post
Most of those who will die will probably be the old and the seriously ill – the same set of people who have succumbed every winter to influenza and other respiratory diseases. It remains to be seen if Covid-19 will increase average fatality numbers or merely act as a new addition to the repertoire of illnesses that kill vulnerable people every year…..

Gee....after a year and a half of Covid.....are we being told that Covid is just another flu like disease that does in the old and infirm?

Perhaps I am the Half Full Glass kind of guy instead of the Half Empty Glass crowd....but I see that as being relatively good news....
Considering this "relatively good news", do you now agree the US didn't need actually need to stop all those immigrants coming over the southern border to control this pandemic?
MikeSnow is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.