Coronavirus: The Thread
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Just to ensure the UK population have no misconceptions about the virus, the usual rags have thoughtfully made us aware with all the alarmism they can muster.
Credit, as always, to the Mail and the photograph ......taken in Glasgow it seems......coming soon " Glasgow in quarantine ! Mail exclusive ! "
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-51230904
Credit, as always, to the Mail and the photograph ......taken in Glasgow it seems......coming soon " Glasgow in quarantine ! Mail exclusive ! "
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-51230904
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That hospital supposedly is all pre-fab buildings. Prepare the ground, bring them in, connect, wire up, bring in the equipment and furnishings.
Lego Hospital.
However it's indicative of something that they need a whole new hospital so early.
Lego Hospital.
However it's indicative of something that they need a whole new hospital so early.
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Listening to the news it’s because they plan on putting everyone suspected of the virus in to isolation. In a city of what 11 million with 800 cases already, that’s going to overwhelm any current facilities.
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
As a guide to how fast they can build things in China one of the picture in the Australian news item shows blue buildings next to the site.
The are the constructor's accommodation built before they start work.
The are the constructor's accommodation built before they start work.
Last edited by NutLoose; 24th Jan 2020 at 18:42.
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I haven't read all the thread but how many people die in Wuhan of "flu (of various kinds)" every winter.
Should this not be put into perspective?
Oh, I forgot, it doesn't sell newspapers and the WHO cannot claim to have avoided the destruction of the world.
Smacks of the climate change debate.
Ensures tax payers money for "scientists" I suppose.
Should this not be put into perspective?
Oh, I forgot, it doesn't sell newspapers and the WHO cannot claim to have avoided the destruction of the world.
Smacks of the climate change debate.
Ensures tax payers money for "scientists" I suppose.
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They built a road ( The G50 ) that is 1200 miles long and includes the worlds highest bridges 1/2 kilometre high! In fact 9 of them, they have built from the 100 miles of express way roads they had in 1989 to 60,000 miles now!
The HS2 railway project would be finished and old hat by now.
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
The big advantage they have is they do not have tree huggers. Should your house be in the way then they give you a new apartment nearby and demolish your old place. They can do this because there is no freehold, all land belongs to the State.
The HS2 railway project would be finished and old hat by now.
The HS2 railway project would be finished and old hat by now.
Efficient? Yes! Humane? Not so much.
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Multiple news sources now reporting that carriers with no conscious symptoms have been discovered in China. The fear is that these people are continuing to spread it unawares. (One whole family who were in contact with a relative in hospital were all found to be infected with the new virus, but not all had recognizable symptoms.)
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This all stems from the cultural preference in the Far East for fresh, warm meat. The animals are kept in sometimes unsanitary conditions and slaughtered onsite at “wet markets” There are no checks for diseased or unwell animals so they enter the food chain allowing for easy cross contamination. I suspect it possibly wasn’t even an exotic animal that originated the initial transmission. Until there is a change in mindset in this practise, there will continue to be these outbreaks as in SARS, Avian flu and swine fever.
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I think that as most, if not all, the carriers of the virus who travelled to other countries in the last few weeks will have have passed it on to people who came into close contact with them, that there will be quite a few more cases around the world. My feeling is that the virus in itself isn't super dangerous, more like a strong flu in effect. However, as so many have/will be affected, it will cause major disruption to cities where the authorities can't cope with the sudden influx of ill citizens.
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Re the new hospital being built in Wuhan: News reports say they aim to have it finished and equipped within 10 days! 10 days for a 1,000 bed hospital. And they have form, they did the same in Peking for the SARS outbreak.
Meanwhile, look at the fiasco at the Royal Liverpool hospital, not Carillion's finest hour! Still not completed, estimated completion date is now 2022, 5 years late! "difficulties" both during and post Carillion's involvement included surveys that revealed concrete beams were rubbish and had to be ripped out and reinstalled. And the plumbing, electrical wiring, external cladding etc etc. All found to be gash and needed urgent remedial actions.
Meanwhile, look at the fiasco at the Royal Liverpool hospital, not Carillion's finest hour! Still not completed, estimated completion date is now 2022, 5 years late! "difficulties" both during and post Carillion's involvement included surveys that revealed concrete beams were rubbish and had to be ripped out and reinstalled. And the plumbing, electrical wiring, external cladding etc etc. All found to be gash and needed urgent remedial actions.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Reported cases and fatalities both just about doubled overnight - now 1300 and 41 respectively.
Whereas according to a September 2019 study by Chinese scientists in The Lancet, there are an average of around 88,100 influenza-related deaths every year in China, with a mortality rate of between 1.6% and 2.6%. The majority of those who died as a result of the flu were aged over 60, the report said
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
Menu showing what was for sale in the market for human consumption, according to Beijing local paper 新京報
includes snakes, civet cat, bamboo rat, scorpion, koala, badger, geese, peacock, fox, crocodile, etc.
includes snakes, civet cat, bamboo rat, scorpion, koala, badger, geese, peacock, fox, crocodile, etc.
Originally Posted by LGW Vulture
I wonder in this same period, how many people in Wuhan have died as a result of "regular" flu?
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One hopes not true and vastly exaggerated. AFP plus three separate sources.
AFP: #BREAKING President Xi warns virus is 'accelerating', country facing 'grave situation': state media
https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2020/0...ng-me-now.html
AFP: #BREAKING President Xi warns virus is 'accelerating', country facing 'grave situation': state media
https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2020/0...ng-me-now.html
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...utbreak-spread
Coronavirus latest: Trump to evacuate all US citizens from China outbreak's ‘ground zero'
THE US is planning to evacuate all American citizens and diplomats from the Chinese city of Wuhan as the death toll for the coronavirus reaches 41. There are around 1,000 Americans in Wuhan, the epicentre of the deadly outbreak.
The US embassy is in the process of contacting all its citizens to arrange seats on a plane back to America. However, there are only 230 seats on the aircraft, according to the Wall Street Journal, and those on board will have to pay for their flights. Any available seats could be offered to non-US citizens.
Medical personnel will be on board to treat suspected cases of the flu-like virus.
Washington was reportedly given approval for the operation from China’s Foreign Ministry and other government agencies following negotiations in recent days.
It is not yet known where the plane will land, or when it will fly to and from the city.
The British government has not confirmed if it is taking similar action for UK citizens.
Coronavirus latest: Trump to evacuate all US citizens from China outbreak's ‘ground zero'
THE US is planning to evacuate all American citizens and diplomats from the Chinese city of Wuhan as the death toll for the coronavirus reaches 41. There are around 1,000 Americans in Wuhan, the epicentre of the deadly outbreak.
The US embassy is in the process of contacting all its citizens to arrange seats on a plane back to America. However, there are only 230 seats on the aircraft, according to the Wall Street Journal, and those on board will have to pay for their flights. Any available seats could be offered to non-US citizens.
Medical personnel will be on board to treat suspected cases of the flu-like virus.
Washington was reportedly given approval for the operation from China’s Foreign Ministry and other government agencies following negotiations in recent days.
It is not yet known where the plane will land, or when it will fly to and from the city.
The British government has not confirmed if it is taking similar action for UK citizens.
