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Old 26th Oct 2020, 21:04
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Originally Posted by Arthur Bellcrank View Post
England has a much higher number of people living in high density cities than Wales or Scotland, if you took the number of covid deaths in the central belt of Scotland and compared them to England there would be very little difference. At least in England the Government is attempting to prevent a collapse of the economy, Scotland and Wales are oblivious to this as they just expect the "UK" to bail them out when the results of their decisions create economic wastelands.
But anything to have a pop at Boris.
In case you missed todays death figures;

date 26/10/2020
England........90
Wales...........6
NI.................5
Scotland.......1

Our 1 death probably was central belt, I'll give you that.

I never mentioned Boris, you did.

But as you did; The figures are only part of the story, the other part is credibility and trust and that is something Boris is severely lacking, and not just in the other nations.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 22:36
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Huffpost, Longish read, Rashford vs. Johnson:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...JvbCpT3giYE0jo

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Old 27th Oct 2020, 08:46
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POLITICO:

NOT LONG NOW: No confirmation yet, but word is the Equality and Human Rights Commission report on Labour anti-Semitism will be out on Thursday.

GETTING THE EXCUSES IN: Jeremy Corbynís former chief aide Karie Murphy has written for the Guardian today ahead of the reportís publication, insisting she is ďproudĒ of Labourís record on anti-Semitism under Corbynís tenure.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 09:01
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How convenient. Nicely timed to deflect from the humanitarian disaster that is this CONservative government.

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Old 27th Oct 2020, 09:48
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Which would be a good point - if the EHRC wasn’t independent of government control.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 10:22
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Which would be a good point - if the EHRC wasnít independent of government control.
Is Selaine Saxby MP independent of government control? Someone needs to tell her to step digging that hole, before her whole party falls into it.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 11:09
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Is Selaine Saxby MP independent of government control? Someone needs to tell her to step digging that hole, before her whole party falls into it.
She's merely faithfully following the example(s) set by Boris.....given Boris's many appearances in front of JCB's products, he's chosen a pretty good photographic metaphor really........
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 18:24
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Dear Boris,

From the Guardian...

Indian child poverty charity offers free school meals in England

Akshaya Patra, which feeds millions in India, opens first of three planned kitchens
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 21:06
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Originally Posted by Arthur Bellcrank View Post
England has a much higher number of people living in high density cities than Wales or Scotland, if you took the number of covid deaths in the central belt of Scotland and compared them to England there would be very little difference. At least in England the Government is attempting to prevent a collapse of the economy, Scotland and Wales are oblivious to this as they just expect the "UK" to bail them out when the results of their decisions create economic wastelands.
But anything to have a pop at Boris.
My bold, just to keep you updated with the death figures:

date 27/10/2020;
England......322
Wales.........7
NI..............13
Scotland.....25 (17 in the central belt)

Scotland and Wales are not "oblivious" - that's a tad arrogant don't you think?
...and I'll respectfully remind you that any "bail outs" are from borrowed money and only Westminster (or England if you prefer) has the borrowing powers.

I see Boris is still doing everything to increase his popularity, maybe he's hoping absence makes the heart grow fonder.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 09:13
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First came the ERG, whose influence can best be described as malignant myopia, now comes the NRG it seems. Not unsurprisingly, it's members are concerned that, having just got the job, they won't be around after the next GE if Boris continues in his usual manner.

From the Guardian....." Simon Fell, Conservative MP for Barrow and Furness, said the group was “trying to essentially keep the government honest on its promises to the north”.

Among his demands Berry has urged the government to publish information in an “easily digestible, consumer-facing, public-friendly way” akin to how church halls use large mock thermometers to display progress with fundraising."

Alas, the first part is blind optimism as the promises were made by Boris.....however, I think most would agree with his second paragraph given the saturation coverage and, at times, complex data we've been exposed to since Covid began, is valid.
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The Nicola show. Again! For over an hour almost EVERY DAY!! Always same script: preeningly taking personal credit for anything thatís gone ok while self-righteously spitting blame at Westminster for anything else.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 19:53
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So with Germany and now France going to back to a second national lockdown and increasing pressure being put on Boris from various quarters for the same. What do people think is going to happen? Lockdown or not?
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 19:57
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hf40.....sure to be lockdown ( I think)
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 20:57
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hf40.....sure to be lockdown ( I think)
I think there will be as well, but not for the reason that most would think. For political expediency a national lockdown anytime from now to the next three weeks for a period of two weeks would almost ensure a smooth normal Christmas. Unfortunately I think that would be the factor that would change his mind in regards to lockdown. All the heat he has taken and may take in the next few weeks will mostly be forgotten if people have a normal Christmas with their families and loved ones. Normal politics resumed.
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 21:05
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.yes hf40 your line of thought is easily understood but I do not agree. I am expecting lockdown again with the aim of keeping hospital bedspace available
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Old 28th Oct 2020, 21:26
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hf40/rif, I think you both make valid points but imagine the stats post xmas!!

It's also going to interesting how the devolved governments deal with it.

Fish wifey has already warned to expect a not-normal xmas.

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Old 28th Oct 2020, 22:30
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Originally Posted by rifruffian View Post
.yes hf40 your line of thought is easily understood but I do not agree. I am expecting lockdown again with the aim of keeping hospital bedspace available
Rif - Donít get me wrong. I wasnít suggesting I want a lockdown so we have a normal Christmas. Iím all for a nice quiet Christmas with no in-laws, and we can tell the kids the Santa canít come because of lockdown restrictions... save a fortune (just kidding, except the in law bit). Just my opinion the BJ doesnít want a lockdown full stop but may be encouraged to do so by advisors for his popularity if he can make it a normal Christmas.
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