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Old 12th Jul 2020, 07:02
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“It’s such an open secret about what’s going on in Leicester that no one took any notice when I raised the issue during my maiden speech in March,” said Claudia Webbe, the Labour MP for Leicester East.
March!

And the Times manage to do an undercover investigation in July?
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 08:22
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POLITICO: Hong Kongers incoming:

As many as 200,000 Hong Kongers could take up the U.K.’s offer of a “path to citizenship” following Beijing’s imposition of draconian security laws on the territory, according to internal Foreign Office estimates, the FT reports.

The figure, which covers the next five years, would represent “one of the biggest non-European migrations into Britain in recent times,” Political Editor George Parker writes.

Around 3 million British passport holders in Hong Kong and their dependents are eligible to move to the U.K. under the scheme.....

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Old 14th Jul 2020, 16:54
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POLITICO: Hong Kongers incoming:

As many as 200,000 Hong Kongers could take up the U.K.’s offer of a “path to citizenship” following Beijing’s imposition of draconian security laws on the territory, according to internal Foreign Office estimates, the FT reports.

The figure, which covers the next five years, would represent “one of the biggest non-European migrations into Britain in recent times,” Political Editor George Parker writes.

Around 3 million British passport holders in Hong Kong and their dependents are eligible to move to the U.K. under the scheme.....
Just what Brexiteers voted for (not).

And before the clarion cry of "Brexiteers didn't vote to stop immigration" I got that message very loud and very clear from a gent I was talking to from Birmingham last evening.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 17:38
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Just what Brexiteers voted for (not).

And before the clarion cry of "Brexiteers didn't vote to stop immigration" I got that message very loud and very clear from a gent I was talking to from Birmingham last evening.
The most fascinating fact is that there was no need to leave the EU to control the non-EU migration. Who knew.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 17:50
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More good news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53400721

Does anyone know where all the money for roads and the NHS will be coming from?
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 18:05
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More good news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53400721

Does anyone know where all the money for roads and the NHS will be coming from?
That forest of "magic money trees" that Theresa May planted back in 2017. They must have grown particularly well, and the warm spring produced a bumper crop of crisp 20s.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 18:13
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
That forest of "magic money trees" that Theresa May planted back in 2017. They must have grown particularly well, and the warm spring produced a bumper crop of crisp 20s.
It's not just a forest, but whole Amazon rainforest that the Conservatives have discovered.

I suppose they will be able to collect some of the tax money from tariffs, but that will mean higher food prices for the common folk. Not quite something that was promised during the GE campaign though.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 20:08
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I think that the Corvid 19 crisis has thrown all the election promises out of the window.

With good reason.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 08:42
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I think that the Corvid 19 crisis has thrown all the election promises out of the window.

With good reason.
The Covid-19 crisis is a Godsend for Bojo and his circus. Election promises out the window, all the pain of Brexit and the inevitable huge tax increases, all easily disguised and attributed to the ravages of a virus as opposed to Tory incompetence and infighting.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 08:57
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The Covid-19 crisis is a Godsend for Bojo and his circus. Election promises out the window, all the pain of Brexit and the inevitable huge tax increases, all easily disguised and attributed to the ravages of a virus as opposed to Tory incompetence and infighting.
Were it not for Covid-19 an extension to the Brexit transition period would almost have been a given. It is to be hoped that the press and media hold the government properly to account, and don't let them get away with attributing job losses and business closures to Covid-19 that are really the fault of a hasty exit from transition.

I'm sure the likes of the Express and Mail will happily tow the Cummings line, hopefully the serious press, and papers like the Sun may alter the allegiance. I'm sure the ("biased") BBC will do their job diligently, along with C4 news. Online the likes of Guido are likely to blame every piece of economic bad news on Covid.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 09:28
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I have noted people talking about needing an inquiry into BoJo's handling of Covid. Why would BoJo and Cummings allow such an inquiry or would it be out of their control? The Russian influence report appears to have disappeared, would a Covid one go the same way?
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 09:55
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The Russian influence report appears to have disappeared,
Delayed pending the reconvening of 5he Security Committee which finally happened yesterday. Word is that they will want to read/amend before issue as it was written by their predecessors and, since it will be issued on their watch, they wan5 to own it.......

Intelligence committee: The newly formed intelligence and security committee is due to meet for the first time this afternoon after its last member, Labour peer Alan West, was confirmed yesterday by the House of Lords. The committee, expected to appoint former Cabinet Minister Chris Grayling as its chair, has a government majority for the first time in years, Paul Waugh notes in his HuffPostUK email. “Part of the reason for that is the little-noticed move by the PM to remove a crossbencher from its membership,” Waugh writes. The departure of Robin Janvrin, the queen’s former private secretary, has raised eyebrows.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 10:26
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Delayed pending the reconvening of 5he Security Committee which finally happened yesterday. Word is that they will want to read/amend before issue as it was written by their predecessors and, since it will be issued on their watch, they wan5 to own it.......

Intelligence committee: The newly formed intelligence and security committee is due to meet for the first time this afternoon after its last member, Labour peer Alan West, was confirmed yesterday by the House of Lords. The committee, expected to appoint former Cabinet Minister Chris Grayling as its chair, has a government majority for the first time in years, Paul Waugh notes in his HuffPostUK email. “Part of the reason for that is the little-noticed move by the PM to remove a crossbencher from its membership,” Waugh writes. The departure of Robin Janvrin, the queen’s former private secretary, has raised eyebrows.
An Intelligence and Security committee with a Government majority and Chris “Failing” Grayling as the chair. What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 13:43
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
Delayed pending the reconvening of 5he Security Committee which finally happened yesterday. Word is that they will want to read/amend before issue as it was written by their predecessors and, since it will be issued on their watch, they wan5 to own it.......

Intelligence committee: The newly formed intelligence and security committee is due to meet for the first time this afternoon after its last member, Labour peer Alan West, was confirmed yesterday by the House of Lords. The committee, expected to appoint former Cabinet Minister Chris Grayling as its chair, has a government majority for the first time in years, Paul Waugh notes in his HuffPostUK email. “Part of the reason for that is the little-noticed move by the PM to remove a crossbencher from its membership,” Waugh writes. The departure of Robin Janvrin, the queen’s former private secretary, has raised eyebrows.
I make an exception in fully quoting this piece of midden-derived Newspeak!
My initial impulse to write "Unbelievable" lasted no more than a microsecond before realising just what is going on here. A report, which has been accepted by all potential recipients save those who most need to see it, is to be rehashed, redacted, sanitised, where needed to cover potential exposed backsides, and overseen by that epitome of efficient governance, one Christopher Grayling!!!!! If ever anything pointed to the likelihood of irregularities, possibly illegalities, in the electoral process, this stands out as a candidate like the proverbial dog's danglers! Yet one can guarantee, with total confidence, that there will continue to be, on this forum, and elsewhere, blind unyielding belief that the buffoon in office is the result of 'democratic' process!
Just what does it takes to remove the scales?
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 15:42
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Delayed pending the reconvening of 5he Security Committee which finally happened yesterday. Word is that they will want to read/amend before issue as it was written by their predecessors and, since it will be issued on their watch, they wan5 to own it.......
Which in plain english means they want to edit and doctor the report so that it doesn't incriminate anyone in and around the current administration. How are they allowed to get away with this sort of thing, if the Labour party behaved like this with a report into, say, antisemitism then one can only imagine the faux outrage from the usual suspects, including some contributors to these threads.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 15:50
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I doubt they’ll do more than fiddle around the edges - anything else would inevitably lead to a leak of the original text.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 16:55
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An Intelligence and Security committee with a Government majority and Chris “Failing” Grayling as the chair. What could possibly go wrong?
Grayling has failed at that too - against expectations Tory colleague Julian Lewis has been elected to the chair!
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 17:09
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Grayling has failed at that too - against expectations Tory colleague Julian Lewis has been elected to the chair!
This is rather strange because Chris Grayling was the first SoS in Cameron's government to support the Leave campaign. This alone should have earned him a high post in the current government. Very strange.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 17:12
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This is rather strange because Chris Grayling was the first SoS in Cameron's government to support the Leave campaign. This alone should have earned him a high post in the current government. Very strange.
Reinforces the view of the level of his incompetence if even Boris wouldn’t have him in the cabinet!
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 17:27
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Reinforces the view of the level of his incompetence if even Boris wouldn’t have him in the cabinet!
I would struggle the call the current lot any competent though.
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